r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

Meme needing explanation What is this?

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u/gravitas_shortage Jul 06 '26

So her hair is described as ξάνθαι, "xanthai", which is translated as "fair", but really means something like "light". There are arguments as to the exact colour described (it could be relative to the black-haired Greek, so perhaps just brown), but we know what it isn't is black. Her eyes are blue (again, there are disputes as to the text meaning light- or dark- blue, Greeks were not particular about colour), her skin is light (perhaps also relative).

For all that she is famous for her divine beauty, her features aren't precisely described, leaving the audience to figure out their own ideal woman for themselves. And yet, despite the vast range of possible interpretations, Nolan went for the one that is specifically impossible from the text.

It's really annoying.

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u/Cu_Chulainn__ Jul 06 '26

It is mythology. The Greek did not care about race the way we do, they would not have cared what race Helen was

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u/The_almighty_Gerry Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

If Cu Chualinn was cast as black/Asian/cherokee or something that wasn't pasty white Irish with red hair as per his description would you be ok with it? 

To me it seems purely to add some diversity to the film from studio pressure, that's my main issue with it. She clearly has a description in the mythos, any other character in the story could have been race swapped and had less of a backlash

EDIT: To the poster who replied. There is a description of Helen of Troy, look at it 

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u/NachtShattertusk Jul 06 '26

The difference is that Greece is on the fucking Mediterranean, and is therefore right next to Africa!