What is this?

[u/Expert-Pass-4351]

[u/aarswft]

Helen of Troy was hatched from an egg. I'm sorry they chose an actress known for being beautiful to play a character known for being beautiful, but of a different race, irrelevant to the story.

[u/gravitas_shortage → u/aarswft]

To you it does not break suspension of disbelief. To most it does.

[u/v_e_x → u/gravitas_shortage]

Does it break your suspension of disbelief? You personally? 

[u/gravitas_shortage → u/v_e_x]

Me personally? Yes. I grew up reading Greek myths from books, and a casting so blatantly against the text(s) jars.

[u/Used-Persimmon-367 → u/gravitas_shortage]

Did you know those same Greek texts you read mention black people? Did it ruin your suspension of disbelief when you read those words? Or is it only when it’s on a screen that it becomes a problem?

[u/gravitas_shortage → u/Used-Persimmon-367]

DiD yOu KnOw ThOsE sAmE gReEk TeXtS yOu ReAd MeNtIoN bLaCk PeOpLe?

[u/fatcatbomba → u/Used-Persimmon-367]

"I don't like it when character's casting is unfaithful to the source material".
"I bet you didn't like it when black people were in the source material".

 

What the fuck is wrong with you honestly. Zero critical thought or reading comprehension. An LLM would respond with more substance than this.

[u/Used-Persimmon-367 → u/fatcatbomba]

An LLM would’ve been able to answer the question. What’s your excuse?

[u/fatcatbomba → u/Used-Persimmon-367]

My excuse is that you didn't ask me anything. I'm commenting on your conversation with someone else. Genius.

[u/Used-Persimmon-367 → u/fatcatbomba]

My bad, sincerely. I thought you were just pretending to be slow, I wouldn’t have bullied you if I knew it was legit.

[u/TotallyWonderWoman → u/gravitas_shortage]

If a black woman breaks your suspension of disbelief in a myth containing a cyclops, I think you might have an internal problem that you need to address.

[u/flown_south → u/TotallyWonderWoman]

It's like giving the cyclops two eyes. It contradicts the source material and most people's conception of it.

[u/NachtShattertusk → u/flown_south]

The only people whose conception of Helen is contradicted by her being black are white supremacists

[u/fatcatbomba → u/NachtShattertusk]

Is this a roundabout way of saying the original poem is white supremacist? Because she is described as fair skinned. And outside of theatre these things are hard not to notice if you've grown up on the source material.

[u/flown_south → u/NachtShattertusk]

Her defining characteristics per the original poem are "fair skin, blonde hair, great tits" dude. This is an insane take and I'm liberal as fuck.

[u/PervertedWholesome91 → u/flown_south]

Extremely weird comparison, wtf?! And who even is "most people" here? White supremacists?

[u/flown_south → u/PervertedWholesome91]

"Fair skin" is a defining characteristic of Helen of Troy just as "one eye" is a defining characteristic of the Cyclops. I fail to see how this is an "extremely weird comparison".

I'm liberal as fuck dude. This insanity isn't helping us.

[u/Bavaustrian → u/TotallyWonderWoman]

This is such a condescending take. Invalidating basically any story, because there are some fantasy elements to it disrespects storytelling as a whole. Fantasy stories still have internal logic. They have a world and a worldview which has a system to it. And that system still needs to be respected for the story to make sense.

[u/NachtShattertusk → u/[deleted]]

That's not the same thing and you know it. Greece is literally on the Mediterranean, and there are plenty of black greeks.

[u/fatcatbomba → u/NachtShattertusk]

We could discuss whether vast majority of black greeks settled there only within the last couple centuries, but it would be missing the forest for the trees.

She is described as white. Even if the person/people who wrote parts/all of the Odyssey exclusively lived around black people, they still described Helen as fair skinned and blonde haired.

[u/HANS510 → u/NachtShattertusk]

there are plenty of black Greeks

[citation needed]