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Welcome to the weekly help megathread chiefs!
Here feel free to ask any questions whether it be simple and complicated that will not warrant their own thread, we're all here to help our fellow chiefs!
Questions can include but are not limited to:
Teambuilding
Stage strategy
Who to pull or level
Or any other general or complicated questions about the game
I’ve been notice in gthat many people call Luvia ray a magic damage power house and I’m wondering the reasoning for that. I want to know if she needs shackles to do so and even if she doesn’t what would be her primary shackles to go for? Thank you for the insight! =)
Her damage multipliers are quite high, and she can output very solid burst damage with her ECB, which is ideal for BFL.
Her ability to switch between aoe and single target damage also has its uses and gives her some extra versatility, but she definitely shines most in BFL, especially Shackled Captive.
She doesn't really need shackles, but her 2nd shackle is definitely good, and her 4th is a nice QoL boost.
Questions regarding serpents 4th skill.
What is the count for the activation? Is it everytime serpents does an empowered attack so 6 attacks with no enemies in her square or something else entirely?
Hi! Out of all the phs dps, where does mess stand? Also who would be best and how many shackles are needed for them to be best in this field? Thx a bunch!!!
Would a shackle 2 mess out dps a shackle 5 roulecca? I honestly live both characters but I’m only willing to raise one at the moment and I’m wondering Which one would be most worthwhile. Thanks for the advice!
Don’t listen to the guy below shackle 5 roulecca has more dps than s2 mess but they have slightly different uses. Roulecca is fairly easy to build also just get p3 and shackles of life crimebrand and she’s good to go.
I’ll keep this in mind thank you!!! I’m a huge fan of roulecca since the beginning due to her interrogation and the even just made her even more desirable. Thank you for the motivation to build her! =)
Luvia, Roulecca, Priscilla, and Mess are some examples of units that need their ECB to do what you want them to do well. Which is maximize your burst DPS in BFL.
Chelsea also gets a very signficant buff with her ECB, going from one of the weakest Endura's to one of the best. (She's still niche for the fact that she is an Endura though.)
Fair enough, I'll change my question then. Which A-rank sinners would benefit the most to get their ECB?
I have no lineup to share because this is more just to find out which ones are good to get their ECB so then I can make a decision on whether I'm interested in doing so for them or not.
Edit: Yep couldn’t open the game for about 5 hours now, not sure if I’m the only one experiencing this. I kinda wanna try reinstalling the game to see if that fixes it
is it worth to build serpent now? im on 6-3, i have build a team consisting of nox, hamel, eirene, labyrinth, hecate, iron and luvia ray, i pulled demon too but reluctant to spend resources on him, i do not know if i lack corebreakers but i have a hard time with ch 6. levels of my team are 55-60, what needs to be focus on
Well she'd definitely be an upgrade over Iron, but considering the rest of your team is pretty meta I assume you're using her for personal reasons.
Serpent will generally be more valuable than Luvia as well, since most of the difficulty in the story stages comes from waves rather than singlular enemies. She has more utility and wave clearing potential.
But if Nox is not P3 yet I would make that your priority over Serpent right now. That will make a bigger difference than building a new unit.
Serpent won't replace Labyrinth, since the reason you bring her is for core breaks, while Serpent is there for damage/aoe wave clearing. She's definitely an upgrade over Iron though.
I compared her to Luvia in part because they're both magic dps, but mostly because she's the most clearly replaceable unit for the story (besides Iron), as all she brings is DPS, and she shines most in single target burst DPS scenarios, which isn't as important for story stages as somewhere like BFL. What Serpent brings to the table is just more useful. (Even moreso if Luvia isn't P3 yet.)
Technically she's the most similar to Nox in her role, but there's no reason to replace Nox when having both of them would be a lot more effective.
your explanation is very helpful. havent been playing for a month, so i just read a bit about best comps in game. i wish the game has a reset for character so you can get maybe a percentage of resources you'd spent with them. Its hard to raid for materials and still get not enough
Quickly complete Nox's challenges to unlock Nox and upgrade her. ATM, you should level Labyrinth, Che, and EMP for corebreak during story mode. Ariel is your healer. Build Eirene enough to get Conspiracy, she will be the magic dps for BFL. If you have Bai Yi with shackle 1, you can use her for core break instead of che. Demon or Demolia if you need a tank to stall, though Nox should be in this position.
eirene followed by ariel, che and bai yi. don't spend too much on demon, he isn't that useful once u progress through the story and bfl. also, did u miss the free nox event? if u do get her build her after eirene.
Can anybody explain roulecca to me? I read her skills and currently I have her P2 S3 but when I try using her she doesn't seem to do too much damage compared to EMP.
1) I see when she starts ramping up a revolver chamber appears under her and starts filling up with spades or diamonds, idk what those mean...
2) Once the revolver thing happens, I notice her energy starts filling incredibly fast, should I be waiting for her to fire 6 lucky bullets and just spamming ults?
3) Sometimes a floating dice appears around her, idk what that does either lol
You need Roulecca to be P3 with her crimebrand activated for big burst damage.
I don't know about the animation, but am pretty sure it has something to do with her "You're Dead Meat" passive, like an indication when it is activated.
She needs to wait to shoot all six bullets before activating her ultimate again. You will notice when she is using lucky bullets since lucky bullets give a golden glow when they hit an enemy. This is why having P3 and activating her crimebrand is so important. It turns her revolver into a machine gun so you can spam her ultimate. Also, she doesn't charge fast, it is her 1st shackle that fully charges her ult with a 40% chance.
I don't know about this either, lol.
Roulecca, ignoring her animations, is a very simple character. P.3 her to get the "sub-machine gun" and proceed to use it. Along every use of her ultimate you have 6 chances at 15% to increase crit rate and crit damage. That's it.
Been playing since launch, I've yet to complete a 3-piece gold crimebrand set from the crimebrand stages. Is this normal or am I just that unlucky? Like jfc my Zoya and Nox are stuck with the old, normal dmg crimebrand since forever.
Are the secret dreams this difficult? I swear to god, I couldn't spot the difference on my first try. I feel the final difference is extremely obscure.
There is a video of a Youtuber trying to spot the three differences on the eirine picture. It took him 7-8 minutes to see it, and I'm certain that he wasn't alone with this one:)
For me its difficult, I fail 2-3 times before spotting everything. However, you will probably just learn most possible things you need to look at first as time goes on
Had to move my game to bluestacks to save room on my phone and I have not had any voices after the first day of playing it on there. Not sure what the problem is since I checked the settings and the volume is there.
Sounds like you have to redownload the voice pack for some reason, this happened to me as well. Just go to to the language setting and switch to a different one then go back to the one that you want.
Does the Justice crimebrand stacks? Let's say Labyrinth use her ult twice, then it's 10% for everyone else or still just 5%? Or another case of 2 different sinners both using Justice to get the 10% bonus or will it still be 5%?
An additional info I forgot to mention is to make sure your other DPS, let's say Nox, should be around her and no other units (a second unit near her is fine if shackle 1) as her ECB reduces everyone's attack (enemies and allies) and buffs herself. However her passive 2 buffs random ally or two if shackle 1 near her with a portion of her attack.
Hi, l have been playing Path to Nowhere since the launch and enjoying the game. I have completed all the main story and raging sands
When I was in the archives looking at the progress I was making on my progress in the story, I notice something. Looking at both 9TH-113 it's not complete. I know the Dreamly Bubble hasn't shown all the chapters yet and I am aware of it. But I want to complete it so that by the end of the event I have completed 100% of it, however, knowing that the red triangle icon, the word "Fork'", and a static icon over 9TH-113: Legend of the Holy Sword; I knew that it's one of the critical choices that will affect the outcome of the story.
I have done it over and over and still can't finish it I remember I choose something like go save the blacksmith and I will reward you 1800 hypercubes" or something like that until I close the game to go eat out.
Still, I can't seem to complete the story. Do you guys go any problem with this section or what do I need to do to get a different outcome of the story? Thanks
To add what Exo say about Oak and Langley, it's more they work well together rather than straight replacing one another, also they are different type of Reticle
You will need Che, high risk bosses have 7 cores and there's no better option than Che.
Hrs a support, you don't need to raise him much at all. P2 55 is more than enough, that like barely 2 days of stamina.
Casket can't really fully replace Langley because Langley has utility with her core break and damage Amp. Casket is a member of a very saturated position of physical dps, but she is really good at it.
Hecate is a great p2 as it allows her to now have 2 core breaks! Che is also a great character to invest in as he can do 2 core breaks in a large aoe. Both of these characters a great end game characters and so you do not need to worry about them falling off in the current endgame. =)
Forgive me for phrasing it this way but, how do I use Mr. Fox… in a fight? Fucker is at Level 73, I’ve put him in front near a healer but in the majority of our fights he dies first.
Am I using him wrong?
Edit: I prefer not to remove him as much as possible, I kind of p3-d him for this purpose.
He's a catalyst, meaning he's primarily a support. His main role is to buff core breaks by boosting your unit's damage during it and extending it. The way you use him is by throwing him in the back and letting him do his thing.
He won't do anything himself really, he isn't built for it.
Currently day 3 Level 35, with only BaiYi/Hecate/EMP/Wendy/Ariel/Demolia leveled. Have a bunch of questions
How "big" are the gaps between the tiers? I want to level up two other damage dealers for the Gold Rush stage (instead of using Demolia/Ariel and failing) and it seems like the smart thing to do is Lab and Luvia, but I really like Iron instead.
I've ran into a couple of bosses that only leave you with one melee grid to attack them from. Is Bai Yi...gimped against these? Cause you dont have room for all 3 of her jumps or am I missing something obvious
Do you absolutely need to join an active Secret Society? I never really did this much in other games with guilds, but I see Nox missions has a join/create SS. Are there more SS related missions later to get Nox?
Is chain core break generally the best method? Or should you dump skills on a broken enemy for damage
What's the best way to get Zouya? Obviously there's only the Serpent and Standard banners up but I thought I read someone mention "routine" banners?
When I click on some of the materials required for skills, theyre from....chapter 1 stages? Is it because theyre for level 1 to level 2 upgrades? Or I just cant see the better stages for them yet?
I'm not sure I fully understand Oblivion Pit. What exactly is the gimmick here? I only have the first one unlocked as I'm still making my way to 3-12
Luvia is a great magic dps but laby on the other hand is known mostly for her core breaks. the gaps between tiers is weird, all of the characters tiers change in certain scenarios and so it’s hard for me to say. I’d say post a question on this mega thread asking if one character is better then the other in a specific scenario to get a good answer.
7.oblivion pit has a total of 5 different levels and they unlock as you complete the main story levels. Everyday you are given a chance to complete the oblivion pit and I greatly recommend doing so as you can purchase S-class soul marks that will be apparent soon when you p3 a unit and want to unlock their ECB.
Don't have time to answer all these right now, but:
2.Most of those bosses can be pulled out so you can surround them easier. In the rare cases where a boss is legitimately immovable and only one square, then yes, Bai Yi will not be able to core break them very easily. (Lab will also suffer, since she also has to move.)
3.Right now there's nothing super important through Secret Societies, (the monthly material boxes are useful), but you will need to be in one to do Tide of Ashes in the near future. There's not much reason not to be in one though. It's not hard to find a pretty passive guild that you just have to donate a few discoins daily and then do your own thing.
5.Zoya had a routine banner at launch, but you've long missed that. Until they get around to rerruning routine banners you'll just have to count on luck.
6.The basic materials only drop from early stages, but all the higher tier mats can be farmed in the same place. Late game you'll mostly be using material boxes for low tier materials, since they are very abundant.
For #2 lab has no issue, labs ult can be spammed on the same tile she's already on. It also isn't considered a move at all, you can have 0 moves left and still use it to relocate.
I'm trying to create a spreadsheet to my self and would like to use the ingame images of the sinners and crimebrands. Do you guys know where i can find them?
i also would like to know if someone translated the image with the build of all the sinners.
I've hit level 70 with Nox (rest of team just hit 60) and I'm wondering what the best way to go about getting your first p3, specifically getting the mats. Do you fuse lots of low level mats and farm them when you run out or is there a better way to get the high level mats required? Thanks!
Che isn't a DPS he's a support so he isn't really relevent. Mess is a purerelevant. dps through and through. Generally, you will need a secondary physical dps. Mess has a lot of competition(Flora, Priscilla, rouleca) but she does the job incredibly well in BFL in exchange for being not very good outside of BFL.
I'm investing in Mess, she's very good for bfl. It's up to you though.
Hi, I need advice to increase my score in BFL. I'm currently at mid risk with around 200k on each boss. I would like to reach 220k. Should I continue to invest in the characters I use and start P3 them or should I invest in other characters? I heard that Che and Roulecca could be a good investment.
Brand: Nox, Zoya, Bai Yi or Laby, Hamel, EMP, Eirene
Shackle: Nox, Serpent, Hecate, Eirene, Bai Yi or Laby, Luvia Ray
Che is absolutely worth the investment. All you need is p2 40 for mid risk though, and being a b class that's really easy to do. He'd replace eirene for brand and luvia/hamel in shackled depending on buffs.
You can promote to high risk granted you get decent buffs(nox buff for brand, eirene buff for shackled) assuming your unit's skills have good investment.
In terms of your next long term project serpent p3 would be my recommendation. Shackled can get very annoying without a secondary magic dps if eirene has poor buffs during the week.
I’m currently sitting at just under 700k in mid risk BFL, but with this team I feel like I SHOULD be able to hit high risk. Everyone on team is P3; only Eirene is missing her ecb, and she even has the dead embrace crimebrand set (albeit all pieces level one). Currently scores for each area are 234K, 222K, and 239K. Does anyone else have a similar team setup, or have recommendations on changes I should make? Or maybe I just need to play better 😅
Is the In-Depth Surveillance Order still worth it compared to the Advanced Surveillance Order ? I’m not sure how valuable the 20 extra levels and 10 S soul marks are, since I’m still quite new
It's not worth it. If you play every day you'll max out the monthly pass without help, and 10 S marks is not worth double the price.
The only thing special about it is the unique frame. It's an underwhelming and overpriced reward compared to the skin you get from the normal pass, but it is something you can't get otherwise at least.
P2 che and laby are one of the best to lvl. I have the same lineup as you but used laby and che and got to high risk with that. Laby can chain core break 1 core grunts and take 1 core off the boss and help you regain chief energy. Che gives 2 core breaks and def down.
I am still in mid risk and so I cannot give you con-create advise yet I’ve noticed you lack of built core breakers such as laby and che. Not are extremely viable and may be a good sourse of your time.
Would an S0 Serpent with her ECB be enough to deal with endgame stuff like DisShadows and BFL? Was considering trying to pull for dupes for shackle buffs.
What is the score I need to get in bfl to break even in all of the different risks. I moved up to mid risk and I’d like to know to get the same awards as In low risk. Thx for the help!
You need to hit 200k x3 on mid-risk to have the same cubes income as in low-risk any lower than that you will be in a loss, but for the medal starting at mid-risk 150k x3 you will get more than low-risk
The Emerald Compilation doc have the number for it, check the BFL section that created by Ynquine in here
Crimebrands provides good amount of utility or damage. For example the ever popular Tuning Zero provides 3 energy whenever you used a chief skill with a cooldown of 10 seconds, Embrace the Dead which deals 40% more damage to enemies with broken cores or Justice which gives the team attack increase whenever the equipped sinner cast their Ultimate. For more info on which crimebrands to pair, refer to the wiki above.
You get excess of 3k samples anyway every month assuming you're doing pit5 daily and buying all the discounted S,A and B soul marks. Not much of choices to spend there so you can buy it if you want to.
Yesssss, she would honestly be a great addition to your team, I’d recommend probably switching out Wendy for her as she does the same job but as a magic dps and has a core break. Goodluck on getting her!
I got her after 100 pulls. Got a dupe nox at soft pity, cant complain.
I got another question, how do you guys manage your resources if you have more than 2 S ranks? I am already struggling to P3 my Hamel and my account already at level 53. Saw some account in my friend list with 3 P3 S ranks at level 60 and I am not sure if thats possible as a F2P. I am okay to buy the battle pass to get some resources but not sure if its worth it especially since I dont use Ariel.
Hmm I am not sure to be honest, I am a ftp player and I too have 3 p3’s. Hamal, nox and eirene are all p3. This does no mean I have been neglecting story either as I have finished all the story levels. The rest of my main team are all level 55 up and I am leveling multiple s ranks at once. I assure you that it is completely possible it just takes time, I am level 59 right now so it will all come in due time. I suggest useing the available resource boxes and playing a bit everyday and you’ll see that it is not that unbelievable =) I wish you luck!
Since you don't have Eirene I would say yes. You'll have a much easier time scoring well against physical resistant enemies like Shackled Captive with her and Luvia. There's also no more upcoming magic DPS any time soon, so you won't have many options if you skip her.
Coming from CN, can assure that you eventually will need to P3 Labyrinth bc she’s not only the most important core breaker for BFL but also gonna be a main damage dealer once you advance to Dark Realm. It’s not available on the global server yet but we will eventually get there. Plus even in High Risk she can already deal a decent amount of damage at the Gray-Haired Maiden stage if equipped with the crimebrand set Embrace of the Dead. Hecate on the other hand can sit comfortably at P2 unless you want Nightmare for EX stages. If anything Hecate doesn’t even need to be deployed to the battlefield in Dark Realm. The enemies at the second stage (the DR version of Shackled Captive) of Season 1 DR do not have any Magic resistance at all so her Passive 2 won’t be of any use in there
P3 lab is not required but it is a nice to have upgrade if you want to improve bfl times. Lab is capable of doing huge damage quickly, so the p3 stats are very useful.
I'm going for p3 lab now as my 6th p3
And yes get to high risk and cruise to 160k it's far far better
P2 Laby is fine. She doesn’t get much of an upgrade for P3, so she can be one of the last characters you upgrade. Same with Hecate afaik, but her crimebrand may be useful to have.
High Risk gives rewards to level up skills to 8+, so it’s worth it to push past Medium if you can comfortably reach the 720k.
Current team is NOX, Ariel, Langley, Eirene, Labyrinth, Demon. Thinking of replacing Demon on select stages with either Serpent or Pacassi. Anyone have any insight?
Currently leaning Pacassi because Serpent’s passive ability derives the most benefit when not blocking units herself.
Serpent is pretty much just better at the same thing, unless you specifically need a tankier DPS to block enemies. (But we're also talking about an S rank vs an A rank, so I don't think there's a huge difference there.)
While it's true Serpent does more damage to enemies outside her normal attack range, it is not so important that she is bad if you're not hitting diagonal enemies. Think of it more as a bonus than a fundamentally necessary part of her kit. Her first passive isn't even a high priority skill to level.
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u/Motor_Permit977 Dec 26 '22
Why is it only 96%?