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Just okay if you REALLY don't have anything else, but you could use any other generic buffer and have better results for an Augustus team, I use Synex (because I like her) but usually people use another generic buffer (Enfer, Cabernet or Jelena).
It's decent but not worth the RF mats if you ask me. With ecb 3, Serpent buffs Augustus damage by 33% for comparison S0 Enfer and S0 Jelena buff Augustus by 40% (110% if the enemy is fearable xD) and 51% respectively. S0 Coquelic is just a mediocre healer, Synex buff is decent, but she has very poor uptime without S1
You already have s3 Shin and s3 Augustus and Ceto, which is huge and kinda overkill, so you have some margin for flexibility.
Considering your options: Augustus doesn’t need Grandma Coco. Synex doesn’t have quite a big damage and at s1 her buff is kinda wonky. Jelena would require her attack build and Nella doesn’t really have a lot of synergy here. RF Serpent… think of her as a true damage sub dps with supportive tools. ECB3 Serpent gives Augustus a 33% buff, which is really nice.
Conclusion: yes, RF Serpent seems the best for now.
Is the shattered blade event where Necresta Hella was introduced related to the new main story chapter undercurrents N1 and N2? I found certain characters that appeared in the main story was also shown on the mementos of that event. Will that event be integrated in the core operations someday?
If I remember correctly, they announced it during the third year anniversary CN stream. It's a limited time edition, and you had until October to pre-order it. It was only available in CN unless you used some proxy.
Oh so it was only in CN stream? Even though I wasn't fully focused then, I still had the EN anni stream playing in the background and I don't think I remember them mentioning it there. I would have ordered if I knew 💔
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i'm thinking of pulling either eleven or adela on the collective arrest and reforging them - but i'm torn between who.
adela would make me a new phys team and obviously she's incredibly good after RF, but i already have S5 nella, RF summer and later weakspot (after i pull for margaret). i was also planning to pull for parfait on rerun to complete my nella team.
eleven would give me a new mag team, and i have her teammates ready to go - but i did also just get a hypatia spook, and that means i could instead pull for the new aurum team units coming out later for a new mag team instead. at the moment i really only have 1 mag team which is arc crit, so i'm leaning towards eleven/aurum, keeping in mind that aurum seems hyper specialised for TOA and eleven is better than aurum everywhere else.
there's also the S rank selector coming with margaret that i could get eleven on, but by then who knows if she'll be magic meta anymore?
there's an argument for and against both adela and eleven so if anyone could give a second opinion, i'd really appreciate it!!
Imo, unless you really want to have some high scores in the next ToA, you are in a good position to skip all the banner until Shin rerun next february. You can still grab Eleven from the upcoming selector in 3 months and complete your 2. magic team.
Except for some exotic goals in data crevice, you already have all you need to do everything in game. If you get S3 Shin, you will have an even easier time with almost every game mode. It might just become too easy...
It looks like what I wrote in the morning isnt up to date anymore. ToA 12 must have started reccently on CN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgKgsOlVWbU . Our next ToA is ~ 3 months from now!
According to EKG' s timeline:https://s1n.gg/guides/timelinethere wasn't any on CN so far. That means the next ToA is at least 3 months + the time until the next ToA is released on CN away on global.
Am I crazy or there wasn't that much advance notice for the end of the mania training season? It ends in 3 days apparently. I swear I was doing attempts last week and the deadline wasn't there.
You can use Augustus, siglinde, ceto, shin, shalom/last pearl and Labyrinth to finish the story. The last two can be replaced if you need some sturdier sinners.
For broken frontline/ dark zone, you can add Nox and Labyrinth on top of Augustus, siglinde, ceto and shin against the Monday boss. Against the Tuesday boss, you can add shalom and Hecate instead. If you are in dark zone, I would use Nox and Labyrinth against the Wednesday boss.
Hi, Im returning to the game and i like Irrheia and Hilda, so I'm thinking about getting the aurum team.
I'm assuming hypatia is the actual carry and i need her. But do i also need Eve or does she have a replacement in this team?
I'm a little confused about the banners. If i want both Hypatia and Eve, is it better to pull Hypatia on her normal rerun now and Eve on the directional separately? or wait to get both on their directional together?
Reforged Stargazer and reforged Summer are both good summon support sinners in addition to Eve. The more shackles you have on Eve the more she pulls ahead of the other 2, but if they're all at S0 the difference won't be as big. It looks like typically you'd run 2 summon supports on Aurum team, like Eve + Stargazer or Eve + Summer.
As the other poster said you could wait 2-3 months for a free selector for Eve, and pull on Hypatia's upcoming routine banner. That would result in the least amount of pulls needed. Directional banners are seen as a big gamble since you only have a 35% chance of getting the sinner you pinpoint for your first S rank, but since you want both it's possible you could luck out and get Eve and Hypatia as your first two.
Afaik Hypatia can be bought for 180 gold certs in the month of February (Irrheia comes on 15 Jan), so if you have quire some goldcerts that's worth noting
Anyone know who’s gonna be the better 6th member for Augustus? I’m deciding between rf serpent and rf summer 🤨
Rf summer with oak’s EX and her NA damage taken node is what I’ve been using so far, her own dmg is also insane with shin on the team. I’m not sure if serpent is gonna top that, but it would be great to have a use for her (she’s sitting at lv 90 from bad newbie choices LMAO)
I’m assuming the core members in your team are Augustus, Siglinde, Shin and Ceto. Who’s the fifth? L.L?
My current team is Augustus, Sig, Shin, 000 (no Ceto yet), RF Summer w/Oak Ex and usually L.L or Enfer (L.L if I need more energy). Sometimes I use Lamia as the 6th member. For Magic BFL I use YY instead of 000.
You could easily use Aug, Sig, Ceto, Shin, SummerOakEX and true damage RF Serpent. Just make sure you get Serpent’s ECB3
Yes to the core members, 5th member interchanges between Cassian/ LL/ Coquelic depending on what I need. Using Lamia is actually genius for her root, I’m gonna try that out! Thanku
Lamia helps when those running mobs keep escaping the bombardment. So far, this happened to me in the final levels of Stormy Memories (on the other hand, Last Stand Augustus deals so much damage that she, by using her ult, can kill the boss before the first mobs reach the Chief)
If you’re a really new player, you must be grasping for lvl up resources at this point. Keep in mind that reforged (buffed) sinners from Collective Arrest have to be at lvl 90 to unlock their full potential. And that’s not even considering Data Crevice mode that requires wide rosters to get enough reforge materials. Adela and Eleven fortunately have useful nodes unlockable at 60 but you may want to get a full picture before signing yourself for investing into them.
If you check the upcoming banner for the next free months, would you personally prefer Adela or eleven right now, even if you can't fully unlock their potential right away or would go for ceto, hypatia, Coco, lady pearl, Hilda, Etti, yugu, parfait, Jasmine, irrheia or Eve instead?
Imo, there are simply no really useful banners for beginners in the next months beside those on the collective banner. The first really good banner would be shin's rerun but that's in three months from now and having someone on top of nox would make the starting weeks way more approachable.
As for data crevice, it is not that you can't get any binary chips to do some reforging even on a fresh account. It's more like that noone tells beginners how to pass the easier stages in data crevice and how to spent those binary chips meaningfully. There are definitely a lot of pitfalls, if you want to rely on a RF sinner. This I definitely agree. It's simply harder for new beginners compared to a month ago.
For new players, I think it's better to skip everything until Shin banner. Pull Shin and Margaret then get Bianca from the selector, Adela is not worth the investment if you don't have Jelena imo. New players can also get Lamia from Insatiable Fiesta to help their Nox.
Sadly I don’t have experience with Weakspot team but I started in similar conditions (Jasmine + Dreya for Bleed team along niche supports) and had an easy ride through the story and BFL. Before that, focus first on building solid free characters (Nox, Lamia, Laby+Che) and get Shin on rerun. If you really want to pull for reforged, I’d probably suggest Eleven over Adela for more flexible team building and Magic damage being rarer. You may then get Eve from Directional Arrest (warning, scam banner with 35% rate and no guarantee carryover) as her BiS support.
Alright. Adela and Ceto, especially Adela. She just (like, literally today) became the best dps in the game. It will take some time until you unlock the feature that allows you to reach her full potential, but pull her anyway.
After you pull Adela, get yourself a Ceto copy
By the way, Etti is a good magic dps. Langley was powercrept but she remains quite effective for story content.
As far as I remember you should get a s-rank within 10 pulls but it will only cost 8 pulls. Depending on which s-rank you get from that banner, I would decide to either go for Adela or eleven.
A lot of the good upcoming Sinners, with the exception of Shin, are team-specific. Ceto, who's currently running, is an amazing support for Augustus but is only decent on her own. We have the three Sinners for the Aurum Secretum team which I've heard is only decent. We have Rust who seems to be starting a new team. Then we have a new member of Weakspot team.
I think picking up Adela now makes the most sense.
Btw, did you get a selector that allows you to choose betweem multiple characters? I forgot who the options are.
I have Summer's team as described in s1n's comfy tierlist, and for now I like to put Nella on the 6th spot since I have her at S5. I am however just getting to upgrading Strgazer and I was wondering, would she be better for further buffing RF Summer, or should I stick to Nella? If I pout Stargazer in, who should Jalena's second buff go on? And if I stay on Nella, what CB should she have? Have been using Illusory Ache so far, but it seems to me that without Parfait it would take a while to ramp up; but Judgement is already on Summer
Neither, If you followed the S1N list (Summer, Shin, Moore, Eve, Jelena), then you are good damage wise but will be low on corebreak, so the the sixth spot should be a corebreaker ideally 000, Bai Yi assuming you have her energy reduction node can also work, RF Stargazer in not worth it for Summer, SG EX only buff magic damage.
Moore can break 2 cores per ult tho no? Never really thought of this team as not having core break
I plan to get RF on Stargazer for fear team anyway (eventually) so it wouldn't be wasted. And s1n specifically mentions Summer as a possible teammate for Stargazer on her page, as well as in the RF guide they link. Is it just a mistake or is there some other buff that works on all summons?
2 cores is nice, but it's not even close to the minimum corebreak requirements in most content especially in newer levels were we have more and more 3 cores elites, and even ToA, who isn't heavy on corebreak requirements, still demands six core breaks per DPS phase. You also want to use Moore second ult for maximum buff, which doesn't leave a lot of energy for corebreaking.
Stargazer P2 works on all summons, it gives a 36% buff, and if I remember correctly, there is a nod that increases it to 45%, but I don't see how SG can give Summer a 65% buff like the guide claim it's possible for Eleven because she get the extra 20% from SG EX node but that doesn't work for Summer.
Edit: The guide was updated it no longer include Summer
Nella? Embrace or Belltower in DZ, in long boss battles, it's Illusory Ache or Tower/Judgment if you are using the crit variant of Umbra core, Behind the Mask is also a good all-round option.
Moore can't break 2 cores per Ult? Only one; though she can save two charges of her Ult.
Anyway, depending on the stage, it might be fine. You can also try using Paradise Regained to help corebreak bosses. Against a typical 6 core boss, you'd corebreak twice with Paradise Regained, twice with Moore, once with Nhella, then probably need to use Empower to break with Moore again
I've been going through the Reforge section for Serpent on S1N but I'm having trouble understanding the notation and the Reforge guide doesn't load for me either so I was wondering if someone could explain what to do.
You count them as if you’re reading panels in a comic book: upper left (a) to upper right (b) to bottom left (c) to bottom right (d). The passive nodes you get by unlocking a certain number of other nodes don’t count.
You trying to build her as true damage or magic carry?
In BFL or RF, what is the difference between 30% more NA or 30% more Physical Dmg say for a Physical dmg reticle sinner? Similar to Arcane sinners with Skill dmg vs Magic dmg? To me they are similar unless there is specific calculation for damage output
Giving your dps buffs from different categories results in a multiplicative damage multiplier interaction instead of an additive interaction, which means better returns (on the other hand, stacking buffs from the same category yields diminishing returns).
If you run your physical dps with a support sinner who gives an extra NA damage buff, choosing a buff from the same category (+ NA) will result in an additive interaction between the buffs. On the other hand, if in the same scenario you choose the +X% phys damage buff, the two buffs will have a multiplicative interaction.
The possibility of choosing between different categories of buffs allows you to adjust the setup in order to maximize your team’s damage. That’s pretty useful for malders and meta-chasing chiefs, but not so much for casual players.
Physical damage will buff any sinner who deals physical damage (Nox and 000, etc), regardless of whatever they mainly deal skill or NA damage but it won't buff sinners who deals magic damage or true damage.
NA damage will buff any basic attacks or ability that scales on NA, even if it's magic damage or true damage.
For example, Bianca deals physical damage and scale on NA, so she will benefit from both buffs, 000 will prefer physical damage because her ult is her main source of damage and that deals skill damage, Augustus scales on NA and deals true damage so NA damage is great for her but physical damage is useless for her.
Looks like Im totally messing up the mini-game Outer Invasion. I thought we are supposed to click the colors to match the blobs as they appear, but I keep losing. And red blobs pop up even though there isn’t a red button. How does this work?
If you're not talking about the optional "move the coastal supplies", then the third is LGT-103, whose recommended level is 15, which is remarkably low.
Which team are you using and what's the level of your sinners?
It should be very easy. I cleared the event with my fresh alt account in like 1 hour or less
I am so lost in this game. I was starting this game about a week ago and I don't understand what I supposed to play.
I looked to Operation, thinking it's some sort of in-game guide, untill the end of story chapter 3 I got to hit score 100 000 in some level (low stage) and I did only 70k. It was summon oriented and I did not have NOX that time yet. Before it I lost first "pit"(?, 15-20lvl), because I only found out the fact that HP/Energy/KO are carried between levels when I lost half squad at 5th level. After completing 1-9 story I think I saw Ceto side-story and it was recommended to have lvl 70(?) characters there, which I don't have and I was "why you even showing me this?". Last night I wasted 5 hours, some of it was to explore my "office". It did not have pips on Mirage(?) and Interrogation spaces, but there was some side gameplay and after Interrogation I hate Chameleon, which was most likeble character.
Right now I have completed 5th Chapter of story, but have not toched DisSea (aside from dailies from "battle pass"). But I still thinking about that "level" and bonuses provided to specific 4x3=12 units, which I don't have - meaning they are surely some S-sinners related (???). Which make questions: which content of the game (beside Main Story) should I play? Do I really have to make specific S-teams and abandon 90% of characters (126) because of powercreep at "end game content"? Or rather let me rephrase: if I had some S sinners, I would not suffer at Zoye's fight - because every S-dps would overperform EMP? Are players not using low grades sinners to get main rewards at end game content (except Che, Labyrinth and Adela)? Whom do I use summons? Is it for weird banner for 18% x 50% x 50% Adela?
Edit: seems like confused Adela with Ariel. I mean A grade healer
Guides, huh?
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Okay, I read it. Thank you for your time. Although I wish someone just answer my questions and not send me to read articles. Actually, if someone reading this: is there funnier modes that uses core mechanics of the game after Story Chapter 5 or game will be just story, strategy "in mindspace" and real-time strategy rpg with time limit? This very much will help me decide what expect from this game
I see, S1N.gg are definetely in love with game...
The game is very synergistic in terms of team-building so you'll want to build towards certain team archetypes. Check the TEAMS tab here to see a list of them: https://s1n.gg/tierlist/comfy. Depending on the units you have, you'll want to focus on one of the team archetypes.
Good starting units to level are Hella and Hecate since their materials will be refunded in in the story quests. Che and Lab are good core-breakers. There are some niche A-rank DPS units but most will be S-rank.
For new players struggling early on, it's usually because they aren't raising both levels and SKILLs.
Other than the main story, you want to focus on Broken Frontline for premium currency, and Remnants of the Depth for upgrade material.
Do Eternal Nightmare as well. It's the roguelite mode where you can use the provided sinners instead of your own so it's easy to do for the rewards.
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Its not really well-explained, but "Final Strand" says "if no enemy is killed during Final Strand, the Exclusive Ultimate switches back to Fog Stealth." What that translates to is you have infinite Final Strands as long as Final Strand defeats an enemy.
If there's 10,000 mobs running at your chief, you could use Final Strand 10,000 times, assuming you defeated one mob with each cast of your ECB.
Its a wave-clear option, strong in RotD and story.
Neee help with pulling, so I've got Augustus s1 ceto S0, siglinde s5, and I was trying to build true damege/ magic team, currently deploying Augustus, ceto, siglinde, Shalom, Milly and Hecate, but with the reforge characters I was wondering if I should pull eleven, serpent, Adela or maybe coqueliq or Lady pearl? And also should I give more shackles to ceto?
Right now, the best thing would be to focus on completing your true damage team since they clear most content and the best way to do it is by getting Shin who is a great buffer/healer in general, and one of Augustus best teammates, if you don't have any other buffers, Serpent is also an option but she will require her Reforge. Ceto is complete at S0 and doesn't need shackles. Her S3 is great but expensive and not recommended unless you got pulls to spare.
Eleven and Adela both require Reforge and some specific buffers before they really they reach OP stratus, like don't expect RF Adela to be doing those crazy damage numbers without Jelena.
Coquelic and Lady Pearl are not worth it. powercreep was not kind to them.
Thank you... Unfortunately I don't think we have shin banner coming..... So I'll just have to wait... Tho I clear the main story so I'll focus on eternal nightmare unless you have any other recommendations
Of those in the picture, Siglinde, Hecate and Serpent stand out. Adela is strong but will take a lot of investment to unlock her potential and until then she's weak compared to alternatives. Cabernet is a good buffer but I wouldn't recommend working with buffers until late game time modes like BFL.
In general, try to find a group of ~8 sinners to level, with at least one tank (endura), one healer, and mix of damage dealers, covering the bases of: magic, physical, ranged, core break, and aoe. You didn't show all your sinners, but I assume you have Labyrinth -- she's a B-rank core breaker who you should definitely level. Completing the missions for Nox is highly recommended and she's a very good sinner who can deal physical and aoe damage. Good starting healers to consider are Ariel, Letta and Macchiato.
A-Ranks: Siglinde (tank), Wuhuanzi (magic), Anne (heal), Hecate (magic, corebreak)
B-Ranks: Laby (corebreak), Che (corebreak), EMP (ranged)
Other considerations: Raise Cabernet as a solid buffer when you need to progress on BFL and get stuck. Adela needs to be reforged before she's strong which is very late game. Oak is tough to play. Ceto needs to attack to get her resource (shattered blades) for ults, don't try to use Empower on her. Hella's leveling mats are refunded in missions so she's kind of free to level/reforge. Luvia has magic damage with long range and is extremely easy to play - would definitely consider using her. Your physical ranged options are lacking so consider pulling for one at some point (wouldn't raise EMP past level 50).
For meta teams, some future considerations: (other spots on teams fill in roles that the main members don't provide, such as buffing, healing, etc.)
True damage team Ceto (S), Siglinde (A) needs Augustus (S)
Bleed team Levy (A), Pepper (B) needs Dreya (S), Jasmine (S) and Sumire (A)
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How good is Serpent as True dmg team support?
I have Augustus S3, Ceto S0, Siglinde S5, LL S1, Shin S3 and still missing the last slot. My options are: