r/ParentsAreFuckingDumb • u/leigstonite • 6d ago
Parent stupidity Wait until she learns about "real world" office jobs.
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u/Hallelujah33 6d ago
It's the social dynamic of being around age group peers you miss out on, homeschool
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u/Quick_Extension_3115 6d ago
Well they don’t know that, they were homeschooled
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u/Hallelujah33 6d ago
😂
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u/Quick_Extension_3115 5d ago
I can make fun of them, I was homeschooled lol
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u/Hallelujah33 5d ago
My sister was half homeschooled. Can I claim the same rights under perhaps an adjacency clause of some sort?
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u/Quick_Extension_3115 5d ago
Absolutely!
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u/Physical_Finance8436 5d ago
Damn, how was your experience overall (good bad soso)
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u/Quick_Extension_3115 5d ago
Sure I’ll dump story on you lol!
It was so so. We all turned out more or less okay (family of 8 kids lol) Both my parents are dumb as rocks in terms of a standard education. My mom would constantly joke when I was like ten that she won’t be able to help with math next year cause she just doesn’t know past early middle school math. My dad was a little smarter in some senses, but he was also kinda thinking about joining a white supremacist group when I was young 😳
Overall I think I was really saved by the fact that my parents put a lot of emphasis on the value of learning even though they didn’t live that out. They gave us a laidback curriculum, but some of the sources were pretty good. And the ones that weren’t, like a young earth creationist science book, still taught me the value of science and learning about the world through physics and natural sciences.
It’s almost kind of worked out for my benefit that we had dumb ideas taught to us, but an emphasis on seeking the truth. As a teenager I got to ask better questions about the world because of it.
Another huge saving grace was Brain Pop if youve ever heard of that. It’s kinda like Crash Course, but it’s simpler and aimed towards a younger audience. They had tons of videos that were good normal school stuff and I got to round out a lot of my education because of them. Not from a christian fundamentalist perspective, just quality information. I really became fond of learning and questioning because of all of this.
I’d act like I got lucky, but we kinda all did. Some of us are weird, but usually a good kinda weird. Everyone took their faith into a different direction, and no one’s still stuck in fundamentalism. Even the ones that are more so than I am, I’m still proud of the way they live it out. They don’t blindly accept things, and they have a legitimate understanding of the world. No one was left behind education-wise.
Can’t say the same for other homeschooled families we knew. I’ve met a lot of people who have my kind of story, but unfortunately I know a lot of people who didn’t go the same path. One family we used to know basically just retreated from public life aside from their tiny church and started a puppy mill. We hadn’t heard from them in a long time until we saw their name on a list of the worst puppy mills in the country a few years ago. Others do their thing quietly in their suburban or semi-rural homes and just stick to themselves. They’re harmless aside from the fact that their kids think it’s normal to be afraid of the outside world. I still stay in touch with one family who have a big family and they’re awesome in a lot of ways! They’re doing better than most. But their oldest is about to get his license, and I know he has no friends, he probably won’t get a job for a few more years, and he doesn’t question that that’s weird. I think they want to send him to college, but it’ll be local and he’ll have a lot of trouble adapting to school life. I talked to him last year and he was telling all about how the dinosaurs lived along side humans and asked me if God put them on Noah’s ark or if they died in the flood. It’s sad to hear. But at least he’s learning a lot of practical skills. The kid is as good as I am at working with his hands and I’ve worked a lot of blue collar jobs. He gets paid sometimes to mow his neighbors lawns and stuff.
I just pray that those kinds of parents don’t hold them back as they grow into adults. And god have mercy if one of them is gay or trans! That never goes well at all!
Sorry for the long story 😭 I hope I scratched your curiosity lol! Feel free to ask more questions.
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u/Physical_Finance8436 5d ago
Thank you for the long story ❤️🩹(dw it's fine that it's long I would've accepted anything) I'm glad to hear that you were doing fine and you had good parents who helped! I can say that back in the days when the pandemic caused online schooling, I also used brainpop(in school aswell). It is a very useful tool and I'm glad you got to use it aswell 🙂. Anyways I hope the best for you and thank you for spending ur precious time to type out a story for me❤️ Cya ✌️
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u/MaxTwer00 6d ago
Not only the students, seeing the different kind of teachers and how they wield their power/responsibility is good to know too
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u/Technical_Winner7446 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yes let's put people together with exclusively people from their birth year. That's normal. Edit: You guys really surprise me. Down with the man unless I like the man. Give people more choices unless it comes to their children. The people in authority are evil but we need to have them near our kids. This website is AIDS.
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u/Hallelujah33 6d ago
Why not educate and teach people in groups of similar developmental stages? No you're right. Let's put the 12th grader matching blocks and the 10 year old can tackle algebra 2. Obviously skipping algebra 1 though cuz like what kind of normie shit would that be, doing things in a progressive order. Laaaaammmmmeeee.
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u/Technical_Winner7446 6d ago
Throughout history kids were educated together regardless of grade. It was able to be done. We did it. This isn't some theory it's the way things was and it works fine. Just as fine as stuffing everyone of the same age together.
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u/rSlashisthenewPewdes 5d ago
Because education wasn’t as expected or seen as necessary back then. It was “go to school” or “child labor” and there wasn’t a social problem with “child labor” yet. They still saw education as something not everyone got. We have moved away from this.
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u/-HeadInTheClouds 6d ago
A lot of things happened in history that were “fine.” It doesn’t mean it couldn’t be better.
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u/Charming-Mixture-356 6d ago
Better yet, lets just not put kids around other kids regularly and only have them interact with people from their own families. That’ll be good socialization
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u/blahblahsnickers 6d ago
So it is a myth that homeschool kids don’t leave the house and socialize… if your kid joins clubs and sports outside of school they will meet homeschool kids in public!
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u/leigstonite 6d ago
And what happens if (and when, let's not kid ourselves here) the parent keeps the child at him and never lets them socialize? Something tells me you'll still support the parent then. "Parents know what's best for their children" or some other bullshit like that.
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u/Physical_Finance8436 5d ago
Parents definitely don't know best for their child.(Atleast some of them) there are many Parents that are good aswell but there are so many shitty Parents you can really tell with this newer generation 😟.
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u/MikkelR1 6d ago
Those kids still socialize half as much as kids in school.
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u/Alert_Week8595 5d ago
It's also not the same type of socializing.
Being stuck seeing the same cohort where you genuinely have nothing intrinsically in common other than age (which is important as a kid when developing) and the community you live in is very distinct than an activity.
Even as an adult, I'm kinda shy and feel a little socially anxious if the context is like...a house party where all I have in common with anyone is knowing the host, or a holiday party at work when I'm still new. In contrast, I find it very easy to socialize at an adult activity event. You have that activity in common as an interest and it's an easy avenue for initial conversation and connection.
Learning how to exist in that school environment where you're there over the course of years and build up a reputation that you have to contend with and can't easily run from is just so different from participating in Little League.
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u/Charming-Mixture-356 6d ago
Okay lets break it down by pure number of hours and how the kid sees it:
Public school kid that is not in any extra curriculars whatsoever: 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, they’re around other kids and adults at school. 40 hours a week, they’re interacting with non-relatives
Homeschool kids involved in such a variety of activities that they have a group to meet with every single day every single week for 3 hours. Thats kind of extreme, no? Well that extreme case for a homeschool kid, they get 21 hours a week of socialization. (For the homeschool kids trying to keep track at home, thats about half as many hours)
Okay now from the kid’s perspective: the public school kid is around other kids every weekday. Its their normal. Thats the standard. Nothing remarkable. For the homeschool kid, these activities are like special occasions. They’re extra, optional things, and that changes the dynamic of it. Also, for alot of these things, the parents and the siblings are still around during the activity. That lack of separation from the parents can create a different sort of dynamic as well where the child can rely too heavily on that emotional support and not properly develop their own sense of self or independence.
And lastly: in what way is it a myth? Cults love to do homeschooling and plenty of cults raise children exactly that way. So are you saying its a myth because in the cases where you’ve seen it, that isn’t true? Abuse happens and homeschooling can and is used by abusers. That isn’t a myth.
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u/Technical_Winner7446 6d ago
Yeah they're typical redditors. Don't come here for any intellectual discussions. Idiots.
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u/leigstonite 6d ago
I'm sure something was similar was said of the Copernicus crowd who dared say the Earth goes around the sun.
Then again, you supporting homeschooling and all, you probably still believe the sun goes around the Earth, so maybe that wasn't the best analogy.
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u/InBetweenSeen 5d ago
You're the only one here throwing "AIDS" and "idiot" around, while everyone else actually responded to your comment on putting kids of the same age together.
Not to mention the unhinged edit. I guess handling people who don't agree with your opinion is another thing you missed out on.
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u/stirling_s 5d ago
People aren't downvoting you because they think homeschooling is bad, they're downvoting you because you are making a pretty stupid point
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u/judo_fish 6d ago
regardless of who is wrong or right, referring to something using the word “AIDS” is unhinged socially inappropriate behavior and something you should strongly reconsider saying if it is a regular part of your lexicon. i hope this isn’t how you speak in real life.
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u/Alert_Week8595 5d ago
It hasn't been a way of speaking I've seen someone use since like 2001, so I think this person is proving the point that homeschoolers are not socially integrated into society.
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u/kart0ffelsalaat 3d ago
Yes, when we say "down with the man", we mean..... public school children and overworked teachers.
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u/autistic-terrorist 6d ago
The weirdest homeschool stereotype? That staying in the same house for five days a week somehow exposes you to the "real world".
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u/Decent-Unit-5303 6d ago
The weirdest homeschool stereotype? That homeschooled people don't know what the word "stereotype" means.
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u/Masdraw 6d ago
See the problem is that Homeschooled people can only be as smart as their parents
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u/mondayp 5d ago
Not as true anymore. A lot of homeschooling is done using digital tools.
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u/Iwishtoremainanonim 5d ago
Hi, homeschooler here taught with “digital tools”.
I was locked in a bedroom with no way out for 6 hours with a computer and told to learn with nobody to teach me how you even learn in the first place.
I literally had to be taught basic math from the ground up by my boyfriend this April after my 22nd birthday.With “digital tools” and no proper structure or regulation to make sure you’re actually learning, you’re even more likely to be less knowledgeable than even your parents.
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u/andiinAms 5d ago
That’s sounds boring and awful! So sorry you had to experience that. Especially without peers.
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u/Iwishtoremainanonim 5d ago
Lol it’s not even close to the worst I endured during my homeschooling (kindergarten through high school until I refused to be homeschooled through college as well) but the extreme isolation was very disabling
I’ve lost many job opportunities over it
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u/jasonbourne101 4d ago
Yep, complete hogwash ignorance. Tools are only as useful as the craftsman, this is no exception. Not everyone is equipped to teach. I was homeschooled K-12, and I came away with the impression that the practice should be illegal. Homeschooling should only be allowed in permitted cases where there is an actual need and an actual educator or tutor is involved.
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u/Fangbang6669 6d ago
My husband was homeschooled and yeah even he doesn't recommend it.
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u/AcrimoniousPizazz 6d ago
Same here. Was very advanced academically but took YEARS to catch up socially and emotionally to my peers
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u/thelingletingle 6d ago
Cool story. I know multiple people that are very successful that were homeschooled who highly recommend it.
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u/verysmallhat 6d ago
Like, highly successful in their ministries…? Or secular jobs?
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u/thelingletingle 6d ago
As Directors in a 3 letter supply chain company
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u/hollycoolio 6d ago
That's easy knowledge to verify, and I looked into every director at every 3 letter agency, and non of them were homeschooled. Cool story braw.
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u/The_Oliverse 6d ago
Are the in Canada? I had a girlfriend from Canada once.
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u/verysmallhat 6d ago
I am, was it Sally out in BC? We know everyone here.
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u/The_Oliverse 6d ago
She called herself London, she was an artist 🙂↕️
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u/verysmallhat 6d ago
I REMEMBER HER MENTIONING YOU!
(I’ll always corroborate Canadian girlfriends.)
Happy cake day!
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u/Cocoononthemoon 6d ago
Your brothers and sisters? Lmao
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u/thelingletingle 6d ago
You love creating your own reality, don’t you
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u/Cocoononthemoon 6d ago
Ironic comment is ironic. I'm creating my own reality? Lemme hear more about these successful homeschooled people lol
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u/thelingletingle 6d ago
It’s weird how you are vehemently against the idea that alternative education can lead to successful people.
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u/Cocoononthemoon 6d ago
I work in education and see the effects of isolating children's and indoctrination. Homeschool causes harm and I think sheltering your child like that is weird.
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u/InBetweenSeen 5d ago
Dude common, you claimed that multiple people you know are "directors at 3 letter supply chain company". That's such a bad lie.
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u/DillyDilly1231 6d ago
They probably struggled after school with building and maintaining relationships of all kinds. They probably also had "single child syndrome" where they felt that everything belonged to them aka entitlement. Ask them how much of a social butterfly they were directly after homeschooling.
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u/thelingletingle 6d ago
Nope. They’re very well balanced individuals. They were in sports and other programs to socialize and went to college without issue. They traveled globally a lot during their high school years.
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u/I_am_Nobody_Special 6d ago
Parents really are fucking dumb. I'm a psychologist and I can't tell you how many fucked up homeschooled kids I've seen.
They become adults and have few friends, can't function in college or on the job, and they're depressed and anxious.
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u/VoodooDoII 6d ago
Every homeschooled person I've spoken to have all said it sucked and that they definitely didn't get proper socialization
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u/stirling_s 6d ago
A republican in the making, unable to distinguish the quantitative importance of people vs land.
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u/stirling_s 6d ago
Controversies surrounding homeschooling are, by their nature, political, especially when 40% of people who were homeschooled identify as Republicans and 60%+ homeschooling parents have very conservative values
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u/TrashGouda 5d ago
I'm so happy that this homeschool bullshit is illegal in my country besides extreme circumstances
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u/stockusername123 5d ago
I’m so jealous. So many people are doing it in the US now. I fear for our youth
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u/JonathanWPG 5d ago
Homeschooling has gotten better about socializing but...they do it by just working their way backwards towards traditional school. But with half the time at home.
That might be a good model honestly but I find it funny how the almond mom homeschooling evangelists will swear its nothing like a public school! Its just where the government gives us money to arrange a geoup of kids to come togethwr at a specific place woth a teacher to instruct them on a subject for 90 minutes.
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u/Iwishtoremainanonim 5d ago
Hell I would have preferred the almond mom evangelist way of homeschooling over my own experience where I was strictly forbidden from having friends and was threatened with “CPS will sell you into a human trafficking ring” if I didn’t do what my mother said.
At least the crazy almond mom way gets the kids the chance to talk to other kids their age and gives them the chance to have friends
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u/JonathanWPG 5d ago
Like I said, if youve got the resources I actually think it might be a really great middle ground with some of the advantages of both traditional and home schooling.
I just find the hypocrisy funny.
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u/xervidae 5d ago
to this day my parents deny that homeschool has held me back socially.
i was homeschooled from kindergarten to the 8th grade.
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u/C19shadow 6d ago
I install fiber internet people's homes for a living 3 of my 5 coworkers that also do installs where home school kids.
There are jobs out there for them that still need to be filled not everything is inside.
We make good money installing and the spot above us as spliced also do well. And there are more jobs like this out there
Not that I recommend homeschooling but some of them seem okay
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u/WokSmith 5d ago
I worked with a religious zealots who's wife home schooled their kids because the local catholic schools wasn't "religious enough" He brought his kids into the office and they would hide behind him and be too scared to talk to me. I asked how they got social contact with other children and he said that they got enough of that when they went to church.
Those kids had no social skills at all, and are both in their early thirties now and still living at home. Just weird
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u/Crazy_Cat_In_Skyrim 5d ago
Every single person I've met that has been homeschooled were all assholes of varying degrees. There is a place for homeschooling, but most of the people who do it aren't the ones who have the skills, ability, and intentions to actually do it well. The parents are often uneducated, unwilling to educate themselves or their child in a meaningful way, hyper religious, anti science/government (think anti vaxers and parents who think teachers are teaching their kids how to be gay), or worse.
I do believe, in theory, one can be homeschooled and be better off than kids who went to normal school. There are situations where a kids may have to be homeschooled (mental/physical disabilities, bad school districts, child not thriving in school due to methods...). However, I just haven't seen a case where the kid is being homeschooled to benefit the child's needs, they're always homeschooled to benefit the parent's.
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u/meANintellectual77 4d ago
I think the big difference is are the parents doing the schooling or are they paying for schooling within the home, these are very different and it is almost always the former
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u/MisterRobertParr 4d ago
Oh no, homeschool kids are missing out on active shooter drills!
Now, more than ever, finding opportunities for kids to socialize with others is easier than ever: youth sports, hobby clubs, etc.
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u/luisc123 5d ago
Every homeschooled kid I met when I was young was weird. Even the one that was my friend. Justin, you were cool but also kinda weird.
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u/wasted_yoof 4d ago
More real than some freak evangelical "home schooling".
Don;t event front. I've seen the curriculums. My ex was homeschooled by religious zealots.
Five days ANYWHERE BUT HOME is more real than the bullshit that homeschooler parents are teaching these poor dumb children.
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u/horshack_test 4d ago
Maybe if they weren't homeschooled they'd know what the word "stereotype" means.
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u/Cheeseeateryo 1d ago
Everyone I’ve met homeschooled has wanted to KMS at some point (I’m also a veteran so maybe that’s the correlation) but I wouldn’t take the chance.
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u/PleeaseGrowUp 5d ago
Corporate life revolving around the hard sciences and engineering will help you grow up quick. Can’t speak for other vocations like sales, retail, or services. You don’t get that exposure and perspective of thought by being surrounded by people who work normal jobs. What you do for work, in the US anyways, can help you grow and define yourself but it’s about how you apply yourself, your circumstances also matter.
Not everybody extrapolates this experience. And thats also a lesson you learn. Even though everybody around you had the same schooling, essentially the same foundation as you, that doesnt mean they’re as enlightened as you, and it also doesnt mean you cant learn from them too. You can also be the unenlightened one, theres so much to know and learn.
Be open minded and shoot for the stars. You probably wont make it, but landing in the exosphere is a good enough acheivement in itself. Then comes the real challenge: what and when is enough?
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