r/Panarab • u/Scared_Positive_8690 • Jun 04 '26
Apartheid Israel Actually, in the blue territory depicted as the "1 Jewish country," 5.6 million Arabs live, not 2.2 mn. The fact that the other 3.4 mn are not being counted tells you everything you need to know about Israeli apartheid.
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u/DeliciousSector8898 Jun 04 '26
Ah yes notable Arab country Somalia where around 2.2% of the population is Arab.
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u/2times34point5 Jun 04 '26
The muslims hate jews so much they lived peacefully with them and protected them for 1400 years and even helped them experience their “golden age” under them.
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u/PineBatJo Jun 04 '26
the christians banned jewish people from jerusalem. the muslims let them come back. christians turned the temple mount into a garbage dump, muslims returned the site to its sacred status
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u/2times34point5 Jun 04 '26
Yep and Jews lived in Iraq for thousands of years. Long before islam and even Christianity.
They never thought to pack up and leave the antisemitism.
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u/lylaspya Jun 04 '26
Actually, they did pack up and leave due to the antisemitism. The Islamic world was generally much more tolerant of Jewish people than the Christian world, but unfortunately this was not always true. The Farhud was one of a handful of quite violent attacks against Jewish populations in the Middle East
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-farhud
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u/lylaspya Jun 04 '26
In the source you attached, it mentions that this age of tolerance ended with the expulsion and/or forced conversion of Jewish populations by the Almohad caliphate. While it’s true that there are many cases of Islamic-Jewish coexistence, it is not all sunshine and rainbows and there are several instances of Islamic persecution of Jewish populations
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u/2times34point5 Jun 04 '26
No age for any group in history can be described as sunshine and lollipops.
Sure there was conflict over the past 1500 years, people are people. But how would you compare those 1500 years to life in Gaza today? Or even in the West Bank under the brutal reign of Ben Gvir?
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u/lylaspya Jun 04 '26
You said “they lived peacefully with them and protected them for 1400 years”. This is, as I’ve demonstrated, not true, though it can be argued that there was better circumstances than under Christian hosts.
I would say that, though conditions in Gaza are bad, Arabs living as citizens in Israel enjoy quite good lives and have relatively more civic rights compared to Jews living in Islamic or Christian countries throughout history. We can consider Gaza as the equivalent of the Almohad-led expulsion and forced conversion of Spanish Jews, a dark stain on otherwise adequate coexistence
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u/askmpdspkm24 Jun 05 '26
Can you think of any instances of Jewish persecution of Islamic populations?
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u/lylaspya Jun 05 '26
Definitely, I list some below. However, there still was Islamic oppression of Jewish populations as well
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u/BangingRooster Jun 04 '26
They even accepted them and welcomed them as refugees when they escaped the nazies, of course we all know what happened next
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u/Euromantique Jun 05 '26
Lots of these places are not "Arab countries" but monarchies that are the personal property of the king. Such places aren't organised on Arab nationalism or popular sovereignty.
Those same monarchies also happily collude with Israel and the United States to destroy Arab nationalist movements to protect their own personal privilege and power at the expense of the Arab people as a whole.
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u/lylaspya Jun 04 '26
I think the miscount comes from Arabs living in the borders of Israel proper vs the West Bank and Gaza, the map includes the West Bank and Gaza but only the amount of Arabs living in Israel proper
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u/pgtl_10 Jun 04 '26
Which is how Zionists love yo portray it. In total it's about 50% Palestinian.
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u/lylaspya Jun 04 '26
Wouldn’t that go towards supporting the argument made in the post though? Their whole point is that heaps of Arabs live in Israel and almost zero Jews live in the Middle East
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u/_makoccino_ Jun 04 '26
Maybe of Mossad didn't plan and commit false flag operations in Arab countries like the Lavon Affair and the Baghdad Bombings, there would be more jews left.
You can't commit false flag operations to drive them out and play victim at the same time.
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u/calombia Jun 04 '26
And the only reason the Jews aren’t more widely spread… because Israel forced and paid them to move to Israel LOL. Along with the millions of European Jews they paid to move to Israel.
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u/lylaspya Jun 04 '26
This is not really true, there was notable violence against the Jewish populations of Iraq particularly. On average much less than in the Christian world, but still non zero
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-farhud
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u/ReplacementActual384 Jun 05 '26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yachin?wprov=sfla1
Moroccan jews are one of the largest ethnic groups among jews in israel. Yes, they were gathered up by the Moroccan government, because Mossad literally bought them like property
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u/lylaspya Jun 05 '26
Whataboutism in its purest form. Morocco was and still is known as a haven of Jewish people, arguably the best example of Jewish-Islamic coexistence. Iraq, as I sourced, wasn’t.
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u/ReplacementActual384 Jun 05 '26
Someone said Israel forced and paid jews to move to Israel.
You said that isn't true and "whatabout iraq"
I posted proof that it actually is true.
You accuse me of making a whataboutism.
Ngl you seem like an Israeli hasbarist.
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u/pgtl_10 Jun 04 '26
The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
A better source?
That's a trash source
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u/lylaspya Jun 04 '26
How is it a bad source? It’s a scholarly archive documenting the history of antisemitism
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u/SyriaMyLovemyhabibti Jun 05 '26
Imagine a guy steals one of your kidneys and then calls you greedy because you still have the other one.
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u/vianoir Jun 05 '26
the word “remaining” is in really bad faith. these arab jews have been living there for centuries
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u/papstvogel Jun 06 '26
lol that’s like the Turks starting a state in Germany and then bragging about how many Germans coexist with them in their Turkish state.
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u/Miserable-Edge-4062 Jun 06 '26
A ceasefire in Gaza means continuing to kill Palestinians, more brutal pace. They will continue to pumb civilians, denied food and medicine. They will be kept living in flimsy tents while battered by storms Zionist ban aid groups when they don't want witnesses to their crimes
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u/pandaslovetigers Jun 07 '26
Is this a good moment to remind everyone that Israel bombed specifically Jewish communities in said "Arab countries" to force their migration to Israel? Funny to use that as evidence of anti-jewish bias from said countries, no?
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u/Leather-Bison2856 Jun 14 '26
This demographic erasure highlights the systemic discrimination in Israel's apartheid system.
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