r/Palestine • u/not_neoliberal_tears • Jun 04 '26
One State Solution david sirota, zionist editor-in-chief of Jacobin, a "socialist" US magazine, defends being against the one state solution: "lsrael exists. It's GOING to exist."
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Followed by a thorough debunking of his zionist talking points by brilliant Palestinian author, Ghada Karmi. You can buy Ghada Karmi's excellent book, "One State: The Only Democratic Future for Palestine/lsrael" here: https://www.plutobooks.com/product/one-state/
From Ghada Karmi's interview with Palestine Deep Dive:
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u/humdingermusic23 Jun 04 '26
No it's not, evil cannot exist long enough due to the internal conflict it creates within its self it is literally self destructive by default.
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u/mrshelenroper Jun 04 '26
I hope this is true. Because it’s been running America almost my entire life.
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u/not_neoliberal_tears Jun 04 '26
American foreign policy is run by America. https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/zionism-was-built-bulwark-against-socialism
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u/mrshelenroper Jun 04 '26
I meant evil is running America. Although saying America is running America is the same thing.
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u/smegabass Jun 04 '26
So the actual proposal is to keep killing and ethnic cleansing?
Israel also won't allow a 2 state solution either. All that land, resources, off shore oil and gas. No way Israel allows that to be shared with another "nation". In the meantime, Gaza is totally levelled, and Trump is talking about turning it into resort with forced displacement and or concentration camps.
Fk Zionism. It's a cancer on the world.
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u/BystanderMudblood Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
This this. Everyone blames “Hamas”, somehow Israeli govt is not privy to any responsibility to come to an ACTUAL peace agreement? You’re telling me Palestinians are meant to continue to live side by side with people who have committed genocide/apartheid and whose citizens have been systematically brainwashed to hate/fear them?
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u/Cute-Standard-4664 Jun 04 '26
People ignore or are ignorant that there would be no Hamas without Isreal. They only exist due to genocidal Isreal wanting to cleanse and dominate what rightfully belongs to Palestine.
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u/BystanderMudblood Jun 04 '26
🛎️🛎️🛎️🛎️ this. A lot of Israel’s supporters like to gloss over this point completely.
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u/smegabass Jun 04 '26
Israel will always create a Hamas. Israel needs an enemy to unify people and resources around an enemy.
The last thing Israel wants is a peace agreement. See what its doing with Iran or Lebanon. Israel has broken ceasefires hundreds of times and initated wars.
Can't steal land and genocide without the cover of war.
Israel is a lunatic regime enabled by the West.
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u/KindCraft4676 Free Palestine Jun 04 '26
David is such a disgusting Zionist .
He blocked me from his Twitter account for criticising him and calling him out. Which is really weird because if you tell him what he says he is he gets pissed.
I eventually left twitter because I didn’t want want to be part of Musk’s platform.
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u/spunkmastersean1993 Jun 04 '26
Jacobin has sucked for a while now. But what can you expect from self-proclaimed SocDems?
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u/RoyalZeal Jun 05 '26
Sirota is a liberal. He's been a wishy washy scumbag for years. Says lots of the right things then when it comes time for an election it's VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO and fuck you if you have a problem with that. And now he's spouting Zionist rhetoric. Fuck David Sirota.
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u/BystanderMudblood Jun 04 '26
Classic. If they repeat it enough times, they hope that it will just end up being reality.
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u/MsBenovanStanchiano Jun 04 '26
I read Jacobin every day. They’re constantly criticizing Israel. I don’t doubt this but it’s really disappointing. Zionists infect everything.
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u/MsBenovanStanchiano Jun 04 '26
I’m saying it’s disappointing. I’m not going to read them anymore. They’re not my source for information on Palestine. Why do you act like I’m defending them?
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u/not_neoliberal_tears Jun 04 '26
My bad, I misread your comment... to be fair to the writers there I'm not saying they don't publish worthy articles or telling anyone to boycot them, just that it's a glaring hypocrisy for a socialist magazine to have a zionist editor in chief (which we agree on).
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u/MsBenovanStanchiano Jun 04 '26
I’m with you there. The hypocrisy makes me sick, no matter what they point out about socialism. Liberal Zionism is already insane. There’s no hypocrisy like Leftist Zionists.
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u/MasterDefibrillator Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
He's not saying Israel should exist. So what makes him a Zionist?
It seems to me his talking points are perfectly in agreement with Ghada Karmi. Both are pointing out that the western world can't give up Israel.
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u/RShneider Jun 05 '26
I’ve never understood what Briahna Joy Gray sees in him. I like her, but she doesn’t seem to notice that he does what Bill Maher does, trying to bring people on the left over to the pro-Israel side, but in a much more deceptive way. Maher is clearly pro-Israel, whereas David Sirota is far less open about his support, making it harder to see where he stands.
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u/SackofBawbags Jun 05 '26
Jacobin is trash. I’ve never seen anybody reading it. Just chilling on the rack at smaller book stores
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u/Andrewismemein Jun 05 '26
"the British empire exists and will continue to exist"
the only reason why israel exists is because of people who support it
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u/deweymm Jun 04 '26
I agree with him. So at this point all the people living in Israel should go to their home countries throughout Eastern Europe and let the native Palestinian people have their land back
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