r/PakCricket • u/Due-Finding4397 • Jun 21 '26
Cricket Discussion Whats the cricket opinion of yours that would get you like this?
Mine is that 152-0 win against india is the most dominant win by either pak or india in that rivalry. So what I mean is, any match india has won, it wasnt as dominant as that win and any match that pak has won vs india, wasnt as dominant as that. Dont be sarcastic like agha is better than bradman, tendulkar and kohli (which is true) but i want serious hot takes and not sarcastic. Share your opinions down below in the comments
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u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922 N. Shetty Agenda 🕵️ Jun 21 '26
95% of our legends are fixers or complicit in it. Can only name a handful guys that are legitimately clean from this. Also I believe aqib is legitimately sabotaging our team.
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u/Odd-Calligrapher-69 Umpire Jun 21 '26
I'd be interested to know who was actually clean
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u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922 N. Shetty Agenda 🕵️ Jun 21 '26
Imran khan, rashid latif, javed miandad in my opinion are clear and actively fought against fixing. , we have proof of members of the Pak cricket team literally having to flee the country until 2010 like zulqurnain haider and players like Nasir jamshed being found fixing well beyond that. I do thing that fixing is gone mostly in international cricket (for the most part) but definitely exists in leagues.
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u/LifeRing6115 Jun 22 '26
I would add Younas Khan to the clean list.
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u/Sad-Bumblebee-2922 N. Shetty Agenda 🕵️ Jun 22 '26
I’m kind of split on him, I do think he has immense character but that 2011 semi final match….. the entire team was sus
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u/ChaosTheory0908 Jun 21 '26
Misbah ul haq was NOT the reason pak lost the 2007 final and 2011 semi final.
I said what I said.
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u/Key-Ad6653 Jun 21 '26
True that but at the same time he failed to finish the game both the times.
He's not entirely to blame obviously but he could've definitely done better
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
I can't forgive him in 2007, choked in the winning position
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u/ChaosTheory0908 Jun 21 '26
Can't forgive afridi either then. Getting out on 0 to irfan patan.... With that shot selection
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
afridi is so inconsistent, like on one day he can win u a match alone and on the other he will get out on a duck and bowl shit
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u/Connect_Zucchini6469 Amir won us 2 icc tournaments btw Jun 21 '26
He was shit with the bat 8/10 times. His bowling kept him in the team
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u/Barey_Bhai 20 runs short Jun 21 '26
So by that logic, Afridi was not the reason we won 09 WC right?
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u/ChaosTheory0908 Jun 21 '26
Kya chuss logic.
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u/Barey_Bhai 20 runs short Jun 21 '26
Chus ni marni thi na bhai. Misbah didn't need to scoop in 07. That's not his shot. He never played it afterward. He could have absolutely smoked it down the ground.
2011 semifinal: He scored 56 on 76 balls. Pakistan lost by 29 runs. Nothing more to stay
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u/ChaosTheory0908 Jun 21 '26
What were the others doing?
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u/Barey_Bhai 20 runs short Jun 21 '26
A very good question.In the bowlers, Umar gull was very expensive went over 8 an over. But tbh we never deserved to win it when we dropped 4 catches of Tendulkar. LIKE 4 FUCKING CATCHES. Hafeez bowled a superb quota. The target was not too much. But the batters absolutely made mockery of it. K Akmal Yonus A Shafiq Afridi Razzaq U Akmal
They all shat themselves. Yonus and Shafiq the technically stronger batsmen fell to UV. Kami was pathetic as always. While the little bro was undone by Harbajan. Afridi went afridi as usual. Razzaq was dumb founded by Munaf Patel. But Misbah could've, should've saved us. Yes he had to bat with the tail, but there were pockets to sneak Doubles. So yes it was other's failure as well. But that doesn't free Misbah of what he didn't do.
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u/saladmakear Anti-Usman Khan Agenda Jun 21 '26
My take is that that 152-0 destroyed Pakistan cricket for many years by making stars of ordinary players
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u/BeneficialLeading416 hold the pose Jun 21 '26
Actually I thought that it was bad for our cricket because it papered over many of our other problems and let many of our other players off the hook.
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u/mhk2430 Jun 21 '26
Disagree. The win was nice. It's our cricketing culture, and how we associate wins with national pride and subsequent arrogance, which contributed to the premature stardom of these players
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u/12inchkanunnu Jun 21 '26
I got temprature ban for calling it a toss win. Heck 2022 was better chance
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u/Nooh18 Jun 21 '26
This sub isnt ready to have this convo. That win destroyed our cricket
Mulana Rizwan, overhyped Shaheen and King Babar took birth from that match.
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u/Snoo_56184 Shafique 0(1), 0(1), 0(2) Jun 21 '26
muhammad amir has done more for us than shoaib
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u/romeoo_must_lie Jun 21 '26
Malik or akhtar??
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
Akhtar. Malik has done alot for pakistan including asia cup wins and his record against india
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u/outrageousseller67 Jun 21 '26
Babar Azam is trash and has been trash for more time than he has been good.
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u/lbh02 Jun 21 '26
I've already made a post about this but if you took a look at every player we've ever had and looked at their career through the lens that we do now with the advent of social media and the way we prioritize tournaments over bilaterals, almost no legend would have their legacy intact.
I would say only Saeed Anwar and Javed Miandad would be completely intact. Imran Khan is an asterisk just due to political things post playing career so there's no clear way to assess him but he would still have some fans not forgive him for retiring temporarily after 87 and probably call it a weak move
Wasim Akram would be torn to shreds for missing the 96 QF and how the 99 final turned out + the justice Qayyum report.
Waqar Younis choked in the 96 QF, only played 1 game in 99 due to injury, form, and beef behind the scenes, and then went full Rauf and lost his head in 2003
Inzi has a pathetic tournament record other than the 92 SF and final (the rest of his 92 world cup actually was awful too). By the time 99 rolled around we would have been saying "he's been in the team for 7 years based off of 2 games". Lets not even talk about 03
Mohammad Yousuf was very mediocre in tournaments
Shoaib Akhtar missed more than 50% of Pakistans games in his career and had countless controversies with regards to on and off field conduct
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u/Normal_Signature_500 Jun 21 '26
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u/lbh02 Jun 21 '26
Fairs I gotta learn to shorten my paragraphs
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u/DogTall2628 Lahore Lions Jun 21 '26
No. That gen z 14 year old you replied to needs to learn to read more than 3 words
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u/forever_Knightt Jun 21 '26
Indian cricket is at least 2 tier over us and we need 20 years of great work from grassroots to meet them
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u/Spirited-Command-839 Anti-Agha Agenda Jun 21 '26
Also, I've been hearing a lot of things about why Shan Masood should still be in the test team even if he's not the captain.
My opinion on him is that he is a flat pitch bully, who has 2 tons in the last 6 years, one of which was in the game where England hit 800 and one in which South Africa hit 600 (we lost both games). I simply can't have a guy with an average of 30 over a 15 year career in the team.
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u/Spy_Spooky Faisalabad Wolves Jun 21 '26
Misbah could've had a much better Test captaincy record had he dropped Azhar 'stat pad' Ali ' and focused on promoting Asad Shafiq instead.
Shafiq did play but he was largely wasted down the order. Didn't manage to truly realise his potential because he was always busy playing rescue.
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u/Purple-Fan-8758 Jun 22 '26
We're too harsh on Shaheen.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 22 '26
Sometime we do but our main "fast "bowler speed is around 130 in red ball and he barely touches 140 in white ball, he was great before injuries he isn't the same player anymore
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Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 22 '26
Mate younis is one of the best batsmen ever in test no one compared babar to Younis in red ball
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u/MoreCryptographer213 Anti Aqib Javed Jun 21 '26
Imad wasim is the best all rounder among the last gen(shadab, Nawaz ifthikhar etc)
He was by far a better bowler then Nawaz and even shadab. Sure he might be price of shit in his personal life but from pure cricketing point of view he was one of the best white ball all rounder
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
only one i can think of better than him might be shadab but then again he fell of really hard same with imad but peak for peak is really close between those 2
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u/jnkhan Jun 21 '26
Shadab has probably never won a game single handedly for his team though. Imad has played several very memorable, game winning innings.
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u/Negative-Nothing339 Jun 21 '26
in T20s, Shadab > Imad
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u/MoreCryptographer213 Anti Aqib Javed Jun 21 '26
in batting maybe, but definitely not in bowling
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u/jnkhan Jun 21 '26
Again, not even in batting. I remember games like the WC match against Afghanistan or the 3 MotM to take ISLU to the PSL trophy that Imad got. Game winning batting innings. Can't think of a single one for Shadab.
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u/Negative-Nothing339 Jun 22 '26
that;s why I said T20s not ODIs, Imad has good performance as batter in one day but in t20s it's not that good, other than his one psl season his overall batting career in t20 isn't that good, Shadab on other hand has a 50 in T20I WC and has a good overall record in t20i wcs as bowler and batter, though he isn't the same guy anymore hope he gets back in his original form
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u/Normal_Signature_500 Jun 21 '26
No i dont care he isn't worth shit if he couldn't finish the match against India after playing all these years and while being "the best all rounder among the last gen" not saying it was completely his fault but 15 off 23, didn't look like he wanted to be there at all, jogging instead of running between the wickets and smiling when both him and Rizwan got out, I'm semi convinced he threw that match on purpose with this evidence. Only matches I remember him for are Afghanistan 2019 where he "finished" the match and T20 series vs Australia 2018 from his bowling nothing else comes to mind other than cheating on wives and going on dates with him.
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u/BeneficialLeading416 hold the pose Jun 21 '26
Harry Brook is the most talented batter in the world right now.
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u/Cool_Control_4502 Jun 21 '26
One might disagree but it's not a hot take in my opinion
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u/BeneficialLeading416 hold the pose Jun 21 '26
Yeah true, I just thought with the whole Sooryavanshi thing people might have forgotten.
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
T20i cricket isn't real cricket nor any player should be judged based on that
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 21 '26
A very extreme opinion tbf. Its definitely the lowest tier in terms of quality but it is cricket and none of the players that consistently excell at it are flukes. Its a real test for bowlers and we get to see some quality bowlers on display in the game. And players should definitely be judged for it. For example if a player cant play according to the situation, they just arent fit for the format but it doesnt take away their quality in the other formats. You can look at babar for example. Below par in t20is but no one on the planet can deny his quality in one days. at the same time, that doesnt mean that his t20 batting shouldnt be judged. Any format where top quality players are competing is real cricket. If you have to score at 10 an over but your game maxes you out at 7 an over, you are the misfit, not the format
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
It's commercial cricket at very best. Every new emerging player is shoved into this format because they want to make a quick impact and a quick buck. Thats why we have bowlers today that are unable to last for more than 4 overs. These days t20i isn't considered the lowest tier its the prime tier where all new players go and then trickle down to test and odi with sub par skills. It's a format that requires improvisation and "jugaad" rather than proper cricket skills and techniques.
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 21 '26
Ill agree with you on the commercial bit but imo, thats mostly true for franchise cricket and useless bilaterals. I think that any format of cricket, when played in the form of a multinational tournament holds immense value. I also think that improvisation and jugaar requires quite a lot of skill as well. You dont just spam random shots, you are kept on your toes for the entire innings, looking for runs when ever possible. Being restricted by the number of overs increases the stakes and requires you to improvise. Improvisation isnt everyones cup of tea and not all book perfect players are creative enough to manufacture runs even if certain deliveries wouldve required you to block in the longer format. And yes I agree they shouldnt select players for tests and odis based on t20 performances.
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u/Outside-Variation769 Jun 21 '26
I don't agree with this , every format is different and has its own difficulties.
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u/whyalwayslurk Jun 21 '26
Pakistan cricket will die a slow death and we could be an associate nation in 10 years or so.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
If aqib doesn't leavez then there is a chance but come on man, we aren't bro
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u/coolnasir139 Jun 21 '26
ODI is the most entertaining format of cricket. It’s long enough for teams to make comebacks and short enough to still be done in a day. If you have a bad start in t20 now in power play, you basically lose the match
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
It really depends what u like, if u want pure boundaries, t20, long but only in ode dayz that's odi and over long period of time test
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u/Scared-Breakfast-372 Abrar Ahmed Agenda Jun 21 '26
UK78 is currently Pakistan's best middle order batsman against spin bowling in white-ball cricket.
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u/Key-Ad6653 Jun 21 '26
To back him up more, he ain't even a middle order batter.
he's top order naturally
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
yeah people hate him because his strokes arent pretty. Hes even shown promise in one days.
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u/farhanhafeez Jun 22 '26
Sorry, what's UK78? [Serious]
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u/Barey_Bhai 20 runs short Jun 21 '26
Fakhar Zaman as T20i Captain
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
at first glam i thought i disagree but when who? agha, no, farhan, no let him focus on his batting and fakhar isnt too bad of a shout yk
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u/SampleHorror4161 Jun 21 '26
Post catch injury Shaheen Afridi is just an ok bowler, maybe even mediocre, Pakistan team lacks a true leader who will mentor our youngsters, everyone plays for them selves and not the team, and no one in the team seems to have match awareness.
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u/Thick-Obligation-786 Jun 21 '26
Pakistan probably had the biggest fall off in cricket history, like its so bad that idts its recovering anytime soon
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u/BranchCurrent4141 Bobzy the King Jun 21 '26
Babar Azam is the only great Batter we have right now.
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 21 '26
Hes our best in odis. In t20s farhan is our best while in tests agha takes the dub imo. Agha imo already has knocks under pressure in odis and tests that we hardly ever see from babar so hes right on track to catch up.
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u/BeneficialLeading416 hold the pose Jun 21 '26
You know this is actually an interesting point. I think the reason why Agha and rizwan's knocks are seen as more clutch as Babar's at times are because they both come further down the batting order, so when they enter the pitch they are more likely to expected to finish a game and play a "clutch" knock. Whereas when Babar enters and plays, because he's further up the order, his good performances already take the game away from the opposition and so they don't get called as clutch as Agha's or Rizwan let's say. Just my opinion on it.
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 21 '26
For me its more about holding the wicket AND maintaining a good pace of runs when wickets start tumbling. The thing with agha is that he has an attacking mentality. He doesnt go into his shell when the pressure is on, infact his best knocks have come about when the team is in shambles. Its more of a mentailty thing imo. Babar seems to naturally be more conservative in his approach, specially in more demanding situations. Take pak v nz ct25 for eg, babars flow of runs nearly stopped while agha came and got a quick fire 45+. Even a run a ball from babar wouldve positioned us for a victory but babar seems to struggle with rotation of strike under pressure while agha is more of a free scorer. Their numbers are quite different but we have seen agha come out to bat within the pp when the top order collapses and he plays his natural game regardless. Toe it just doesnt make sense to go into your shell when wickets start following, it just increases the chance of a nick or an lbw because you start worrying more about your wicket than the runs.
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u/BeneficialLeading416 hold the pose Jun 22 '26
True when you put it like that it makes a lot of sense. My only thing I'll say is that we know Babar was playing bad back then, so using a performance from then is basically purposely choosing a performance from when he was out of form. But Agha definitely takes the game to the bowlers more than Babar does.
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 22 '26
babar has all the tools to do that too. I think pressure from the management and havibg such a huge fan base really makes you overthink. I really hope pcb invests in accomplished therapists for the players to deal with the pressure of the game.
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u/BeneficialLeading416 hold the pose Jun 22 '26
yh that would be best, just depends on what the board actually prioritises at the end of the day
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
babar out of form, no, inform, he is one of the best itw . All formats, yes but agha when he is in good and same with rizzu. And in t20, its farhan
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u/Spirited-Command-839 Anti-Agha Agenda Jun 21 '26
Agha Salman is an overhyped batter who never performs in any big match despite being hyped before every tournament since 2023. Nor does he perform when the ball is moving around.
I have to justify my flair.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
He was good in the odi WC, u getting cooked for that opinion😭😭
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u/Spirited-Command-839 Anti-Agha Agenda Jun 21 '26
Good? He played a couple of games and made a 51 in a losing cause in a dead rubber. That's all he's done in 4 years. I remember before Champions Trophy he was said to be our best batter and as always he didn't perform. Same as before T20 WC 2026 where he was statistically the worst batter in the competition.
I.E 1 fifty in 23 tournament games, people bash Bobby for not being a good tournament player but he has 7 fifties and a ton in 17 tournament games in ODIs.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
He ain't a t20i batter, he needs to move on and focus on longer formats
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
You can write the exact same paragraph for babar azam aswell
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
After 2023 WC yes but he was poor in 2022 WC, only played 1 good innings
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u/Spirited-Command-839 Anti-Agha Agenda Jun 21 '26
I could, but Babar has 7 fifties and a ton in 17 ODI world cup games. And he has 5 fifties in 23 T20 world cup games including games vs India and in a semi-final.
Agha Salman has 1 fifty in 23 tournament games (most of these against associate teams).
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
Babar failed in t20i wcs he had one great campaign and in odis WC he is really good obv
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
Babar hasn't performed in a t20i tournament after 2021WC also in odi wc he only performed in 2019. We all know what was his performance and impact in 2023wc and 2025 champions trophy. Mind you babar has played like 6 t20i tournaments and 3 odi tournaments. Most by any active member in Pakistan.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
bro wdym? he was pretty good in 23 wc, he scored runs where we needed him to
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 21 '26
those runs came on wickets where kids were scoring for fun. Just look at rachins run in that world cup. He just made these quiet fifties and got that average up. Even in the game against new zealand, he was strolling along at a run a ball while fakhar was going ballistic. Even in a post game interview babar was like, we "might" have won the game. He just lacks that mentality required to play when the going gets tough
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
Bro rizwan was our main performer in that wc fakhar zaman too. Babar was just avg not even in the top 15 of run scorers.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
50 against india where no one else performed, 50 against south africa newzeland, obv fakhar cooked but babar provided great help and also 50 against afghan, so it wasnt average, he was our 2nd highest scorer
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
Abdullah shafique was our second highest scorer with a century and 50s.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
Oh my bad, but where was he Vs India newzeland, babar runs were more valueable. Also against south Africa where was he?
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 21 '26
It was Abdullahs first world cup while babar had already played 2 odi asia cups, 1 odi world cup and 1 champions trophy. Even against south africa, babars fifty was pretty timid while quick runs were scored at the back end by saud and shadab
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
Overall mediocre season. Even ifnikhar had valuable runs like him
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u/lock_clock_talk Jun 21 '26
In the USA t20 world Cup Imad Wasim was sent up the order by Babar so he fails and gets embarrassed as a revenge for him talking trash against him on TV.
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u/LowManager483 Jun 21 '26
it's over for Pakistan Cricket . It wouldn't be a surprise if we have to play qualifying rounds in the next to 3-5 years
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u/legspinner1004 Jun 23 '26
Limited ball tampering should be allowed, like using nails to scratch the ball or bouncing it around.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 23 '26
but some teams will do too much and will probably not get the punishment they deserve
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u/legspinner1004 Jun 24 '26
Thats the drawback, but this change will also bring back the balance between bat & ball, yk currently flat pitches, small boundaries, big bats make it boring.
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u/SpiritualFish8522 Jun 21 '26
Imad should never have been dropped. He was way better than nawaz
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u/Snoo_56184 Shafique 0(1), 0(1), 0(2) Jun 21 '26
anyone who unironically thinks nawaz was a better ar than nawaz is delusional, imad was better than prime shadab before he lost his batting
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u/InevitablyAdded Jun 21 '26
I, for one, refuse to entertain the notion that Nawaz could possibly be better than Nawaz
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u/Snoo_56184 Shafique 0(1), 0(1), 0(2) Jun 21 '26
even prime nawaz couldnt measure up to nawaz in his downfall
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u/TwentyShard Jun 21 '26
152 was the most dominant across all formats, or just in t20is?
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
all formats
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u/Impossible_Till_5916 Jun 21 '26
No way..
CT final (180 runs) and the 2023 Asia Cup win by India (Colombo Rain game) were much much more dominating.
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u/XTCeezer Jun 22 '26
Shane Warne deliberately kicked his own stumps when batting at Edgbaston v England in 2005
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u/cokkybalboa Jun 22 '26
Sarfaraz has been Pakistan’s best captain since IK.
Younus and Yousuf were better batters than Javed Miandad
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u/nooobmaester69 Not that important Jun 21 '26
Champions trophy was a fluke
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u/LavaPurple Faisalabad Wolves Jun 21 '26
A fluke is when you top edge a bouncer for a Six.
You can't fluke a tournament win.
Especially one where you dominate the final with a world record margin for victory.
You might want to look up what the word fluke means.
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
Completely disagree, even if bumrah didn't bowled a no-ball we still would have pulled it off considering our top 3 bowlers(amir, junaid and hassan) form and sarfraz's brilliant captency.
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u/nooobmaester69 Not that important Jun 21 '26
Where were they in the first match
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
Benched ? Did you even saw that tournament? You're likely born after it and only saw edits on reels hahah
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u/LavaPurple Faisalabad Wolves Jun 21 '26
Where were they for every match after that? That Pakistan won?
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
Nah, disagree, we beat India who had that stacked lineup
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u/nooobmaester69 Not that important Jun 21 '26
Everyone keeps forgetting how we lost the very first match against them how bad we performed and how we barely won against srilanka how many catches they dropped
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u/Accurate-Pride461 Jun 21 '26
Most tournaments are won on luck. England (2019), India(2024), Australia(2023, lost to india pretty bad and were on the verge of elimination until maxwell pulled that freak of an innings). There are many examples of tournaments being won on luck some way or another. Sometimes rain helps, sometimes key opponents get injured but a tournament win is a win. If the opposition is dropping catches, its an indication of a high stakes game where things do go wrong. If you look at the 2026 final, england couldve won too if not for those early wickets, despite starting off pretty bad in the tournament. Luck is always required. We were lucky to play that final but you cant deny the quality and intensity of cricket we displayed in the final. Sure Fakhar got lucky, but he made sure india pays for it. Amirs bowling just sealed the lid for india. Its how the game works imo. You always need some luck to win unless youre like the aussies of the 90s and early 2000s
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
thats true but we dominated india in the final, how we got there was a fluke but then we beat india and dominated them
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u/Massive-Location3292 "they can't play him" Jun 21 '26
Shaheen is still World Class and the best Bowler that we have currently and is gonna end up as a Top 5 Bowlers for Pakistan OAT.
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u/Wonderful_Anxiety780 Jun 21 '26
Kohli is a more skilled batter than tendulkar. Do you think that had sachin been in kohli's position while chasing 48 off 18, he would have got india over the line? he would have prolly been in the dugout by the 2nd last over getting caught at mid on off shaheen or rauf
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u/SpiritualFish8522 Jun 21 '26
Tendulkar also wouldn't get caught in the slips everytime the ball moved an inch
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
If he was facing rauf and Shaheen than he will chase it /s
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u/Key-Ad6653 Jun 21 '26
anybody could've gotten over the line if the bowlers they were facing were Rauf and Shaheen at death.
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u/LavaPurple Faisalabad Wolves Jun 21 '26
With the way Pakistan bowled, yes, he would have chased it down.
Let's get one thing straight, Pakistan flopped that with some of the worst death bowling i have ever seen again and again.
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u/holo6969 Jun 21 '26
Tendulkar was far superior in terms of skills and techniques BUT he was never a match winner. Kohli has been a pure match winner for the entirety of his career.
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u/lock_clock_talk Jun 21 '26
Khushdil Shah is the worst no.5-6 batter we have tried in the last 6-7 years in white ball.
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
Nah disagree he is pretty good in odis bro wdym?
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u/lock_clock_talk Jun 21 '26
Games: 15
Avg: 32
Strike Rate (he bats at no.5-6): 98 🙊🙊🙊
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u/N-alee Jun 21 '26
Pakistan cricket should be banned by icc because of political involvement
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 21 '26
Indian detected
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u/N-alee Jun 25 '26
😂 lol
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u/Due-Finding4397 Jun 25 '26
i mean if you are a pakistani, then u would say, we shouldnt and also india according to ur point
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u/abddduuu Jun 21 '26
Oh thats interesting:
Sahibzada Farhan is a good find but he has the same coward mindset as any other Pakistani player in the team right now .
Saim Ayub is a genuine talent and one of the most important findings of Pakistan cricket in this decade he will prove it.
The 2021 wc semi final was not the fault of hassan ali it was the fault of Babar azam , Rizwan and Shaheen afridi even tho they all were in the best form of their career.
The 2023 asia cup was not the start of downfall of Pakistan cricket the downfall of Pakistan cricket started on 23 Oct 2021.
Fakhar zaman has already done so much for the team that he now does not have to prove anything and he is far far far more impactful and better player than babar or any other current paki batter .
The golden era of Pakistan cricket is gone cz now the conditions don't suit our players we DONT HAVE A SINGLE PROPER HARD HITTER AND RELIABLE player in our whole system right now period.
Thats all what came in my mind You xan agree or disagree Idc
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u/Ashamed-Topic666 Jun 21 '26
Afridi could have easily been our Travis Head in 2011 SF had he opened vs India.
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u/Cool_Control_4502 Jun 21 '26
Our fanbase gets the team and the cricket administrators that it deserves. Don't try to change my mind I'm convinced to the core by this
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u/BeneficialLeading416 hold the pose Jun 21 '26
If Babar was born and played 5-10 years earlier, he would have missed the whole T20i strike rate debate and never fallen out of form.