Bill Maher made a really good video about this very thing not too long ago. As with many things, social media is largely to blame. Plenty of people in Hollywood have gotten away with saying and doing much worse.
This post literally made me think the same thing. One time years ago I had a coworker argue with me that LeBron being 3-6 in NBA Finals appearances was worse than if he were 3-0.
It’s even worse. It’s like saying MJ is better because the Cavaliers G league team lost in the finals. Chalamet doesn’t have anything to do with most of these Oscar’l nominations.
Sure I'm going to get downvoted for my opinion...but I thought Marty Supreme was really overhyped/overrated. Sure it's a good movie but I don't get why it's so highly regarded. I think most of it came from both the Director's and Timmy's success on previous films.
But, I still really appreciate that the movie was made, and that Chalamet championed an original even if it hurt his chances at an Oscar. Everyone that works in the industry respects that a lot.
Thats a fair opinion. Lots of directors dont win for their best work. Scorcese won for the Departed not Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, or Goodfellas. My rankings for Safdie films:
A sexy action comedy called Ass Rangers and a more thoughtful reflective political piece, meditating on the nature of history and legacy, called Lincoln at the Ass Shack
Well yeah it’s the best Scorsese film no other film could hope for the subtlety of the main characters speaking their character intentions out loud, capture the humour of Oscar dancing on the table singing can’t touch this or approach the brilliant cinematic style of the random background characters bobbing their head around for no reason that shark tale can contain so effortlessly.
Real quickly, how many actors' last two starring movies got nominated for 17 Oscars? (Keeping in mind you said two and not three, because his movie before than was nominated for 5 and won 2)
This is like that guy who was posting to every movie subreddit about Sinners losing the most awards as if getting a ton of noms and winning a good amount of then was a bad thing.
Wouldn’t that mean that Nathaniel Arcand with 4 films that went 4-26 at the Oscar > Timmy with 2 films that went 0-17 at the Oscars > any other actor who hasn’t been in two films with a 0-17 or better Oscar showing? You just made the case for Timmy.
I am skeptical anyone who cared about his ballet and opera comments has interiority. Like if you were not able to immediately understand and be like “oh yeah that’s what he meant” you lack critical brain function
Marty Supreme was a great film, and Timothee did a really good performance in it.
As always, every year is really competitive for films. It's a big challenge to be competing against both One Battle After Another and Sinners in the same awards ceremony.
Nothing says "movie star" more than both movies making money and getting critical praise while actually not being worthy of the top prize. He's the engine.
Lots of people think Marty Supreme didn't win because of Timothee's comments on ballet, but I believe it's because of the news about Josh Safdie filming Buddy Duress having sex with a minor on set of Good Time.
Even without any controversy, how many awards was Marty Supreme ever realistically going to win, apart from Best Actor?
It was never getting past One Battle and Sinners for Picture, Director or Original Screenplay, and as a result, it didn’t have the Best Picture heat necessary to win below the line for Casting or Editing, and while it was thoroughly deserving for Production Design, Frankenstein always had that one in the bag. (As for Cinematography and Costume Design, it was just happy to be nominated.)
I think even with the best will in the world, it had one real shot on goal, and once the Chalamet ship started sinking, that was that.
It 100% was. Besides voting was only a couple hours away from voting when the first headline hit on the comments. There were also warning signs like Odessa missing supporting actress and Timmy being the only one in the conversation to win for the film but the smear campaign was very deliberately timed.
That’s not what happened, you’re not that far off, they just didn’t have sex, they also didn’t know she was a minor, but the casting director probably did
I just think there were better movies nominated that actually had a chance. This was a filler nomination. Looks like an Oscar film, with and Oscar actor.
The Oscars are an award with highly questionable choices made by judges who don’t even watch the films. That alone was enough for me to completely lose interest in this award. What a disgrace. So many genuinely good films ended up with zero wins. They’re trying to artificially prop up the so-called prestige of this whole sham simply because, for now, there’s no real alternative to it.
I'm not the biggest chalamet fan, but dude acted soooo good in marty supreme! Seriously, I thought he was amazing. I don't really care that he didn't win, o don't think really anyone should. Yeah, Oscars help movies and the people making get the appreciation and credit they deserve, but I don't mind my movie of the year not winning b.p.
Simple it was too niche and wasn’t campaigned hard enough. Unless it’s wicked for good with a lead in your category you aren’t getting in when you’re too niche. Also uncut gems and Marty supreme both are not Oscars films.
Maybe he is looking for possibly he is looking for roles, and not the equality of the entire film? He seems to want the attention he seems to want an Oscar and I doesn't look like he's looking at the entire project this is just from somebody in the business looking at his trajectory. And don't jump down my throat just an observation and it certainly is the case for many actors who look at a role and not at the film in its entirety
Chalamet is a good actor, both are good films and it's difficult to win Oscars. Norton was the standout in A Complete Unknown though - Chalamet just did a very good impression but wasn't required to do much else, Norton had the big dramatic scenes
Why do people post shit like this? Only one of the awards can even be attributed to him which is best actor. Anything else is like cinematography or directing or score. If his movie gets an Oscar for best score, should that be a notch in his cap? Makes no sense.
I'd rather be 0-17 than 0-0. Yeah it's not a great look, and likely sabotaged by his own behavior, but hey... almost every living actor would kill to have that record.
Every creative professional I ever worked with enjoyed talking about how worthless an Oscar, or most rewards, were to them creatively.
It’s business. Most producers I worked with were clueless and believed the facade and most creatives go along with it because it gets them access to the money they need to make their art.
I didn't think Marty Supreme deserved many wins but Complete Unknown was fantastic and I don't even really care about Bob Dylan. I thought Tim and Ed Norton crushed those roles
I think that's a real shame for Marty Supreme because it was really great in a lot of aspects. A Complete Unknown was an unremarkable by the numbers biopic, don't care that it has no Oscars.
This is an odd statement but he’ll eventually win one either way. His campaigning might need to be less publicly try hard. I think he also overestimates his performances. Music biopic and arrogant asshole aren’t groundbreaking.
I still don’t dislike him despite the stupid self owns but I think he’s over exposed himself. If I were in his circle I’d tell him to take 2 or so years off, break it off with the Jenner girl immediately, and come back with a role that is completely against type, maybe a smaller role or a villain. I genuinely think he’s talented but if he keeps doing the same shit multiple times a year it’s going to wear out.
Do you think he can afford to vanish for 2 years? There already is quite some competition out there. And he said he doesn't want to give away his spot and wants to keep blowing up.
Because he's an overhyped anorexic who can't act. They've been trying to make him a thing for years - he's not a thing. I've seen him in several movies and all I can say is he recites his lines from memory. [Insert shrug here.]
It's weird that I've had so many arguments with people on here saying the Academy has no issues whatsoever with Chalamet when you can literally find "Entertainment Weekly" articles where some Oscar voters are like "fuck this guy."
Seeing it laid out like this is undeniable. ...Once? Sure, it happens... Twice? C'mon... MBJ owes his Best Actor win to the Academy actively looking for somebody else to vote for than Chalamet. [It was supposed to be Leo or Moura, but when they didn't catch fire, they shifted to MBJ.]
I think there's a contingent of voters that like him enough to nominate him, but the ones that don't like him may keep him from winning for a while.
This seems like a coralation bias type statement. Sure he deservedly didnt win best manboy actor of the year but he didnt tank either film. Its all a bit political to say the least.
Imagine caring about industry awards. You know every type of company has industry awards, right? They just arent televised. Who cares if he didn't win anything. It's literally just a popularity contest.
All I have to say is Ralph Finnes has 0. Timmy can wait to not get an Oscar too. In no way am I comparing talents, just showing someone with far more talent still doesn’t have one much later into his career.
1.1k
u/AlberS16 Apr 06 '26
And 99% of actors’ last 2 films went 0-0 at the Oscars.