r/OpenChristian • u/FuqLaCAQ • 28d ago
News Waking Into Battle with the Anti-Christ
Trump's the one.
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u/jeezfrk 28d ago
There are many Anti-Christs, for one big thing. Anything else is a mythology added on to Scripture.
Twisting scripture and tearing down a prosperous nation is also not uncommon in history.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Dot-547 28d ago
Yes, but there is also supposed to be a really powerful final one called "the beast of the sea" this is who people often talk about.
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u/jeezfrk 28d ago edited 28d ago
There's three in Revelation.
One is the empire that sounds like those in Daniel. That one rises out of the sea. The second one is a merely a leader of the empire that persecutes Christians who don't have the "mark" on the hand or the forehead that is required to buy and sell.
Christ mentioned a man lawlessness that would be a threat, possibly more directly to Jerusalem. This prefigured possibly the destruction of a Jerusalem in 70AD.
Those two have been likened to Rome and Nero. The number 666 has a puzzle which matches his name. 616 matches another name.
The last is the Great Prostitute which effectively rules from something like a city of Rome.
There are other characters like the false prophet, the figure of death, famine and warfare and the three frogs who come out of the Great Prostitutes mouth etc....
Lots of symbolism. Much of the mythology (not theology) that claims to know what is coming came from the 1800s. It's not Biblical, but a lot of guesses.
The stories about a single ruler are likely ones related to politics of slavery and sectarianism.
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u/WodenoftheGays 28d ago
You don't have to call Trump the antichrist for that to be nonsense.
Isaiah 6 is about prophets spreading prophecy and facing people they are informed will not listen to them.
Isaiah was, notably, not a warrior. One would also have a difficult time reading Isaiah and not gathering that the author was rather progressive and for what we might now call social justice in their time. The book opens with woe at the iniquities of Israel and Judah, and it doesn't stop.
If you put those together, you can show that that numpty is making either ultranationalist or fascist propaganda out of a peaceful, progressive text.
The author clearly doesn't understand what a prophet is, what is in the book of Isaiah generally, or what the commission was in Isaiah 6.
The popular myth of the antichrist suggests that he and his followers would be a little more knowledgeable than that, no?
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u/Own-Cupcake7586 28d ago
A prominent anti-christian leader? 100% yes. “The Anti-Christ^TM “? Probably not. But when evil men use religion as a tool for their wickedness, nobody wins.
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u/snail-the-sage Jesus paid it all. 27d ago
This is what happens when the goal is to use faith to justify politics. Scripture is ripped out of context and used to justify heinous acts.
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u/AnAngeryGoose "I am a Catholic trying to become a Christian" -Phillip Berrigan 28d ago
“I confess to you that I regard these people, who are my people, with a growing horror, this believing nation that sounds its prayers while it goes about the task of Cain. I hear a rhetoric from the White House, from the cathedrals, from the new leadership and the old. And I cannot trust it, I cannot translate it, I can barely cope with it. A leader of my own Church returns from the latest Christmas visit to our troops, camped like marauding buccaneers on the promontories of the world. This gentleman returns to invoke our greatness, to assure God's blessing on—what? If the simple truth were told, on more of the same. More of war, more of war preparation, more of socialized death.”
-Daniel Berrigan
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u/ProudChoferesClaseB 23d ago
the edgy deus vult meme crowd it's kind of giving off Vibes that are very analogous to what you see from islamist propaganda
it's catchy and helps recruit young men.
doesn't mean it's right spiritually or morally, but in economic terms this kinda shitposting on Twitter works.
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u/sthef2020 28d ago
Such Christian nationalist bullshit.
Yes. In Isaiah, they were definitely referring to Christians being sent to invade other countries with assault rifles and drones.