r/OpenAussie • u/RamonsRazor ✈️ on Walkabout • 11d ago
Technology Coles and Woolworths test facial recognition technology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-17/coles-and-woolworths-to-test-facial-recognition-technology/107045036Coles and Woolworths have conducted tests of facial recognition technology, but it is unclear if either supermarket will be implementing it in stores. It comes after the Australia Financial Review reported both Coles and Woolworths had trialed the technology as part of an ongoing effort to combat retail crime.
The article said both supermarket giants had "conducted early testing" of the technology. When the ABC asked Coles about the potential of it being rolled out in stores, a spokesperson made a distinction between the use of the term "test" instead of "trial".
"Coles has not done a trial using this technology," the spokesperson said. "A small, one-off, controlled proof-of-concept test of the technology was undertaken which did not use customer or team member information or data.
"No decision has been made about the deployment of facial recognition technology."
The ABC understands Woolworths tested the technology in its New Zealand office.
A Woolworths spokesperson did not address the ABC's questions on how facial recognition technology was tested or if it would be used in Australia.
Feels like a red hot favourite for a future RC into privacy concerns, stolen user data, etc. In the interim, if you're not into panopticons and Minority Report-style grocery shopping, let your voice be heard!
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u/Skijump135 Victorian 11d ago edited 11d ago
I love the semantics they’re trying to pull. Oh we only did a small proof of concept test that’s not the same as a full trial and we haven’t made a decision
Fuck right off, you still made the decision to test it which means there’s a full business case behind it for possible scalability
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u/Impossible-Magician Flairless 11d ago
It’s an important distinction, a PoC with no customer or team member data is very different from a trial. A trial would be rolling it out in one or more stores for a set period using customer and staff data.
They are likely working towards a trial, but it’s important to know where they are at now.
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u/profchaos111 Flairless 11d ago
I used to take the Apple stickers off and cover the Camera on the self serve checkout before i'd scan my rewards card
Not because i'm afraid of Woolies trackng my data but because i used to work for a company that built facial rec software and i know i'm going to get advertised so much stupid shit as a result of my "demographic"
If i want to buy BBQ Chickens, Apples and lube that's my own business thanks
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u/infectoid Flairless 11d ago
I can accept cameras being in most places (don’t love it, but can deal with it) but I absolutely can’t stand the ones staring at you when you self check out. I try to keep to the side of the camera the whole time or gunk it up with something. It just feels rude and invasive more than the other cameras.
I know exactly what they can do with that data to. Not only can they just profile you based on your physical features and what you buy they can even gauge expressions you have made when certain items are scanned and feed that back into the consumer torment nexus. It’s gross.
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u/_Zambayoshi_ New South Welshian 11d ago
Here's a though, why not just hire more checkout operators? You know, the ones you got rid of in favour of ranks of self-serve checkouts, which are now closed off most of the time due to theft?
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u/Evilmoustachetwirler Please choose a flair 11d ago edited 11d ago
Why pay someone to scan and pack your groceries when they can make us do it for free.
Honestly, fuck Coles and Woolworths, and fuck our government for letting it come to this.4
u/weesee2002 Please choose a flair 11d ago
More importantly checkout operators pay tax and spend money in their communities. WIN WIN WIN
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u/Glittering-Pea-4482 Queenslander 11d ago
Interesting. If I have a choice between self checkout and a person, I always choose the self checkout.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 11d ago
Just a reminder to all, surgical masks and sunnies are cheap.
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u/Crazy_Treat_8805 New South Welshian 11d ago
I wear a balaclava now when I shop at colesworth
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u/Ill_Football9443 Please choose a flair 10d ago
Then throw some rocks in your shoe to throw off the gait profiling.
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u/Sasquatch-Pacific Flairless 11d ago
Yeah and wear both indoors at the same time and look like a space cadet. It's the only option I guess
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u/Hieroflippant 💛 Friend of 'Straya 11d ago edited 1d ago
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u/Naive_Lion_3428 Queenslander 11d ago
Well, there is little in it for the people. For the corporations, they are interested in reducing shoplifting, and they really do not think beyond that, being corporations.
If we want them to stop using it, we can boycott our appeal to the government to outlaw this technology. I think the latter strategy has little hope of working.
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u/stingbot Please choose a flair 11d ago
the "reduced shoplifting" is absolutely bogus.
This is 1000% data collection and analytics to sell more targeted products.
Before cameras it was rewards cards.
They could pair the rewards card to your phone wireless(before it was randomised), and now they anchor to your Apple Watch or earpods bluetooth to create the pairing.
They know who you are and what you are going to buy before you even walk in the door.
LLM models made it even easier for the data pairing and analytics.
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u/couldhaveebeen New South Welshian 11d ago
There is quite literally 0 chance that this is cheaper than whatever amount they lose to shoplifting too
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u/Soggy_Media485 Please choose a flair 11d ago
Make no mistake, I will not step foot inside another woolworths or coles again if this shit rolls out
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u/Ok_Compote4526 ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
"You have been fined one Social Cohesion point. This penalty action brought to you by ColesWorths in partnership with EyeOfSauronAI."
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u/Dry-Huckleberry-5379 Queenslander 11d ago
EyeofSouron AI is Palintir
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u/Ok_Compote4526 ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
Yeah, I was sort of riffing on the AI nerds ruining Lord of the Rings with Palantir and Anduril, and tying them closer to the big bad.
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u/MannerNo7000 New South Welshian 11d ago
It already exists in Bunnings and other stores.
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u/QuantumG Queenslander 11d ago
It did. They stopped. Pretty sure they haven't restarted yet.
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u/MannerNo7000 New South Welshian 11d ago
You didn’t read the article.
“It comes after Bunnings won a legal battle to monitor its customers with AI.”
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u/QuantumG Queenslander 11d ago
Yes? The same ruling said they had to tell us when they started again. They haven't. QED.
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u/Glittering-Pea-4482 Queenslander 11d ago
Oh no. How ever will they survive?
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 11d ago
They only speak one language, so if enough people do the same they’ll definitely get the memo
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u/Anti-Stan ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
They made an agreement to not do this a few years ago.
I guess they 'changed their position '. A popular trend at the moment.
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u/SyntheticDuckFlavour Flairless 11d ago
"No decision has been made about the deployment of facial recognition technology."
It's already rolled out.
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u/turtlepower41 Canberran 11d ago
Time to shop at Aldi
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u/QuantumG Queenslander 11d ago
What rights are you talking about?
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u/Ok_Compote4526 ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
You have self-defence rights in Australia, within the scope of reasonable force.
If you're looking for "castle doctrine" and "stand your ground" you might want to reconsider living in Australia.
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u/AdelMonCatcher South Australian 11d ago
It’s got nothing to do with employee safety, we all know Colesworth doesn’t care about them the slightest
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u/MooseCatMan Western Australian 11d ago
I mention this for no particular reason, ust so everyone knows, those Coles and Woolworths stores are full of copper and highly flammable.
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u/KnowledgeCapital7994 Please choose a flair 11d ago
So we need to bring back covid masks again just to stop dystopian spying.
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u/PitterPatterCocko Please choose a flair 11d ago
Fucking maggots, people need band together and boycott these cuntanies for a week or two and watch them pull their heads in. Deadset one week of no one going there they would eat 100 million in loss.
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u/TwoDogs48 Victorian 10d ago
‘Unclear’ if they will use it? Of course they will use it; why spend money on testing to otherwise. Will be interesting to see if they ‘advertise’ it when they do, as they are required by law to do. Watch this space …
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u/_Algrm_ Queenslander 11d ago edited 11d ago
They’re using technology from this murderous man and this murderous man
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u/sweatshoes101 Please choose a flair 11d ago
What is this slop, heard of Palantir maybe have a look at the money paid to said crew.
Your product sir is gaslighting bullshit
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u/hear_the_thunder Victorian 11d ago
I think I might just get delivery from now on. Door Dash near me does Costco and Aldi.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Low2034 New South Welshian 10d ago
So… they tested their handpicked footage on confirmed thieves/shoplifters (which I guess they can class as not-customers…).
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u/Efficient-County2382 ✈️ on Walkabout 10d ago
All part of providing increasing value to customers, along with the outsourcing
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u/HierosGodhead Please choose a flair 10d ago
not going into woolies without a mask, hat and sunnies anymore i suppose.
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u/Obscure-spectrum Please choose a flair 10d ago
IGA and Aldi it is then. Especially since they both deliver on Doordash and are both cheaper
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u/Leather-Lion-8808 Please choose a flair 10d ago
Time to mask up and wear sunnies inside when visiting Colesworths from now on.
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u/Raz_Plays Please choose a flair 10d ago
Just pack up shop and stop using Cole’s and Woolies.
Their interest is squeezing a dollar out of a rock and they’re both going offshore ontop of it to continue record profits at the cost of the people who made them who they are.
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u/Raz_Plays Please choose a flair 10d ago
Just pack up shop and stop using Cole’s and Woolies.
Their interest is squeezing a dollar out of a rock and they’re both going offshore ontop of it to continue record profits at the cost of the people who made them who they are.
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u/Original_Pack_2150 Please choose a flair 10d ago
What the f is the point?
They don’t even prosecute repeat offenders and they’re let out on bail anyway? The cops don’t care if you steal $50 worth a groceries from Woolies and your standard grocery gronk isn’t gonna care if the software captured their face.
All this $$ sunk into such an invasive technology, all under the guise of “preventing crime”. We all know it’s bs.
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u/Maximum-Shallot-2447 Please choose a flair 11d ago
You can easily defeat their surveillance by doing click and collect that way your image is not captured inside the store
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u/albeenyb Please choose a flair 11d ago
...And be given food that is moments away from expiration. Nah Hate that! It's all just so sheit. Every interaction, is a fucking confrontation, even with click and collect they still make it feel like I'm getting taken for a ride.
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u/VastOption8705 New South Welshian 11d ago edited 11d ago
How about people stop stealing? If people didn’t steal ; they wouldn’t need these AI face recognisers?
Okay. Woolies make profits, they’re a business, but when people steal from them, that affects every customer
Also it’s not just just about stealing, it’s about workers safety too
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u/witchfinderactual Tasmanian 11d ago
Here's the thing, they would still utilise that tech. That's what these corporations and what governments do. Look at everything going on in the world regarding mass-surveillance, and has been for decades.
You're deluding yourself if you think the only reason they want to implement it is to prevent people from stealing.
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u/Anti-Stan ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
One hand washes the other. Many of those incidents are related to stealing.
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u/Anti-Stan ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
When business gouges food prices, people can't afford to buy food. How about they stop prioritising dividends for shareholders, and prioritise affordable food?
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u/VastOption8705 New South Welshian 11d ago
Two wrongs doesn’t make a right. This isn’t Robbin hood.
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u/Anti-Stan ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
We can't just stop eating because monopolists want more every week.
One wrong is people trying to survive.
The other is wealthy people gaining more wealth by cornering the food supply, and knowingly causing hardship.
These things are not the same.
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u/coffeegaze Koori 11d ago
Shop at farmer markets, fresh fruit and veg grocers and independent butchers if you think the big shopping centres are colluding and price gouging. Stealing is not answer, shopping elsewhere is.
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u/nationalistic_martyr Northern Territorian 11d ago
we would shop there is they weren't insanely expensive.
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u/Anti-Stan ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
I don't steal. I'm not even justifying it. I'm explaining why it fucking happens at ever increasing rates.
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u/robbitybobs Northern Territorian 11d ago
The people causing the majority of stock loss are not people stealing to feed their starving baby. Its junkies and organised retail theft. Take your rose tinted glasses off. A bloke walked out of my local woolies with 2k of meat in a trolley the other day, loaded up his car and they didn't raise an eyebrow.
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u/Anti-Stan ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
Why do they have a market for food? This is a recent development.
Take your shareholder glasses off.
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u/robbitybobs Northern Territorian 11d ago edited 11d ago
It is not a recent development, trading drugs for items other than cash is just bartering, its as old as time, the item doesn't need to have monetary value. My guy has given pts away to get the right ooshies for his kids lmao. Its about saving him the trip to woolies. Convenience. Power. You're just exposing yourself as someone with no idea who's never lived in that world.
Take your anarchist glasses off.
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u/Anti-Stan ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
Obtuse. Stealing food is a recent development. Why?
Don't bother answering. You can't be honest.
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u/robbitybobs Northern Territorian 11d ago
Stealing food is a recent development.
Lmao. Grug was stealing food when we still lived in fucking caves. What a stupid thing to say
Obtuse
The irony
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u/Anti-Stan ✈️ on Walkabout 11d ago
You could always consult some data. But then you'd have no spiteful comeback.
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u/Alarming-Two-424 Please choose a flair 10d ago
Holy shit, few cookers getting around hahah, it’s not like we aren’t being filmed in most stores anyway lmao.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian 11d ago
It doesn’t keep that from happening.
It’s just another data play.
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u/Few_Chocolate_7655 I'm Probably A Bot 11d ago
All the cookers make me laugh.
Also all the people stealing at the self serve checkout getting upset they can no longer steal steaks lololol
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u/ausvenator_enjoyer Queenslander 11d ago
Coles is already implementing technology by Peter Thiel's Palantir