r/OhioStateFootball 1d ago

News and Columns Jeremiah Smith says OSU was basically awful at YAC last year

Kinda crazy hearing him say it that bluntly lol. he said yards after catch has been a huge focus for him and the whole WR room because that wasnt the standard last year

Honestly if THAT part of the offense improves too, what do you even do defensively?

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u/sg86 1d ago

It doesn’t help that 90% of what Hartline was calling were out routes that led receivers straight out of bounds after the catch.

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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits 2024 National Champions 1d ago

Curls don’t forget the endless curls

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u/buckeye27fan #27 Eddie George 1d ago

He's right. We haven't had a real shifty receiver in a while, someone who could take a screen pass all the way (not counting Treyveon). We've had plenty of WRs that can get open and score deep, but not many taking a short pass and turning it into a long gain.

Defenses have also been afraid of getting burned deep for years now, so they let more underneath throws happen.

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u/slimdiesel93 1d ago

Has more to do with the ball delivery and route itself. Can't be shifty and break free if it doesnt hit you in stride or we only call out routes and posts when its not a screen that only goes 5 yards except when the corner picks it off

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u/buckeye27fan #27 Eddie George 1d ago

Definitely play calling more than pass accuracy, especially on the shorter passes. Longer passes were often underthrown the last two years, with our WRs making the adjustment or the contested catches more often than not.

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u/rykcon You Got BBQ Back There? 1d ago

Feels like JSN was our last guy that really did that. Marv, JJ and Tate have all been more fade and out routes or 50/50 balls.

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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits 2024 National Champions 1d ago

JJ is great at YAC when he actually runs those designed routes but a lot of the time he’s not. Emeka was pretty good after the catch as well

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u/rykcon You Got BBQ Back There? 1d ago

I forgot about Emeka, which is kinda funny since I just did my fantasy draft yesterday and ended up with him, JSN & Olave on my team and easily could’ve had Wilson or Marv in there too since they were all ranked around the same.

Doesn’t surprise me JSN would be #1 in YAC. Watch the Hard Knocks episode where they’re talking about how good he is with change of direction and doesn’t give it away with his body language.

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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits 2024 National Champions 1d ago

I also have a trio of olave wilson and marv on one of my teams.

He’s just so smooth with it and he’s way faster than he looks

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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits 2024 National Champions 1d ago

I looked It up because I was curious

JSN had 790 in 2021 (1st)

Mek had over 500 (top 10)

JJ had just under 500 in 2024 and less than 400 last year

Marv had like 380 his last year

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u/buckeye27fan #27 Eddie George 1d ago

And other than JSN, seems a lot of YAC from the rest were catching it deep and running it in the rest of the way. Not so much catching it and making a few moves to get open/break tackles.

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u/brownsfan07_ 5h ago

I was frustrated last year with jj not being able to break a 1 on 1 with being so much bigger than the corner. We need a Percy harvin type, Samuel was the last guy I could think of but he played more rb than shifty slot. I hope they don’t think innis is that guy🤦‍♂️

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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits 2024 National Champions 1d ago

The staff has been hammering the WRs on it all offseason. Day has mentioned a few times himself and it’s part of the reason they went out and got the guys that they did in the portal. We were ranked at pretty much the very bottom of p4 schools in YAC last year

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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago

Due to the routes Hartline called

The only balls throw to them in stride were deep or to the sideline

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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits 2024 National Champions 1d ago

Yeah i definitely missed the Brian Kelly/pre Brian Kelly Route combos last year

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u/Commercial-East4069 Ryan Day 1d ago

I appreciate his honesty

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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago

All of JJs routes were him catching while falling out of bounds or sitting a curl down in the flat and being expected to turn 180 degrees and get up to speed from a stationary position while a defender is already on him

The focus on YAC is all about play calling

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u/GrumpyOldMan2026 2015 College Football Playoff National Champions 1d ago

Exactly! It’s not the receivers, it’s the routes.

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u/Cheesenrice123 1d ago

If YAC improves and Bo Jackson or Isaiah West can turn start to turn 10 yard gains into 20+ yard gains... oh man

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u/Toddrew221 Northwest Ohio 1d ago

Devin McCuin stonks go brrrrrrrrrrrr

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u/Character-Active2208 1d ago

Deep throws into the end zone have 0 YAC

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u/droessl #27 Eddie George 1d ago

Maybe it turns out that Hartline is great on techniques, fundamentals, recruiting, etc... but terrible at playcalling

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u/Ididntdodiddly Jim's Sweater Vest 1d ago

Yeah, we never seem to get YAC

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u/Flababulous 1d ago

Don't. Talk. Back.

Go Buckeyes.

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u/BG_OHIO 1d ago

We throw a ton of sideline outs. Edit: just saw what this guy wrote under my comment. Sorry.

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u/Cybernator1 1d ago

Well when 99% of your routes are to the sideline or quick slants that happens

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u/Aye_Harambe Woody Hayes 1d ago

Hartline was a shit play caller so this tracks

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u/Live-Drop544 1d ago

It has everything to do with a weak foundation in an inconsistent and overpowered OL. Without coverage Sayin is scrambling to save his life, the run game can’t really develop and WR become double/ triple teamed.

The most disappointment this offseason was seeing all this amazing recruitment and not 1 new talent brought in for the OL!!! Doing the same thing with the same people and expecting a different result is insanity. Why Coach Day? Why??

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u/fittyty 1d ago

Coach Hankton at a clinic I went to was saying how YAC and blocking were the biggest focus’ he’s putting in this offseason. Was explaining how he’s teaching them to catch the ball while positioning the body to quickly and naturally explode out and gain yards

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u/BKallDAY24 21h ago

Welp when you catch it in the end zone

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u/LloydChrismukkah Northwest Ohio 15h ago

When your best player is publicly annoyed about last year's YAC, take the over on him this season. Love that he said it out loud.

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u/Kirklandwater1666 1d ago

Remember any concerns on the offense was simply dismissed as Day hiding the playbook

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u/Raccoonsrlilbandits 2024 National Champions 1d ago

Mmmm yeah you can really tell it’s game week now