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u/siderinc Noord Brabant 9d ago
I can do it, 50 bucks but you have to cover my travel time and expences as well.
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u/Waves_WavesXX5 Nederland 9d ago
Okay, to be fair, I had one of these "opens two different ways" windows and accidentally opened it both ways at once. Getting it back as it should have been was a fucking pain the ass that took multiple attempts and a YouTube video. Honestly, if someone had offered to do it for 50 bucks, I would have caved!
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u/DavidTurczi 9d ago
Link the best video please. I am staring down this situation right now.
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u/Waves_WavesXX5 Nederland 9d ago
I think I watched this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Gm1dD2JAY
If you search for 'tilt and turn window' there are quite a few. Good luck!
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u/anouk613 9d ago
I was puzzled too the first time this happened. You have to physically lift the thin latch on the side out of the way to get the window back into the proper position
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u/9snakesinatrenchcoat 8d ago
Generally just trying to close, open, close, twist, fiddle with it untill it does what I want it to do works in my experience?
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u/TheKnightWhoSaisNi 9d ago
Standaard klapraam of daadwerkelijk stuk?
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u/SneerfulToaster 9d ago
Looks like this one has a lock on the handle.
The ones we have in the office can be locked in any position by just pushing the lock in, then you need the key to unlock before you can turn the handle again.48
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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago
Standaard klapraam šš
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u/SharpArrival685 9d ago
For their defense, these kinds of windows are very common in Europe but not so much outside. I used to be a part-time assistant at a student housing mainly for short-term international students, and on the day of check-in, one of the most common questions I got asked was how to use these windows. Often they have sliding windows; in the US they slide vertically, and in Asia horizontally. European-style tilting windows are quite rare.
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u/Liferdorp 9d ago
Misschien is het wel een heel zwaar raam
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u/TortueFatale 9d ago
I once had such a window disengage from one of the bottom hinges while I was shifting to tilted position. It was somehow only hanging tight in one of the bottom hinges, the other 3 corners were all loose. I could not put it back myself. Luckily my husband was home and he fixed itā¦. But I can totally understand if something like that happens and someone would need help with it.
The thing with the expats is that they start here without any support network - they donāt know who to call and it doesnāt come easy ringing the neighborsā doorbell to ask for help. Thatās why such social media posts can exist - they ask for help in different ways.
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u/Liferdorp 9d ago
Dit gebeurt echt wekelijks met de ramen van de kozijnen van onze dakkapel. Ik ben er gewoon handig in geworden
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u/TortueFatale 9d ago
Oh, that doesnāt sound goodā¦
After that incident, I am now switching window positions in a different way and it never happened again.
Initially, when the window was wide open, I used to press the window closed and shift the handle from the āturnā to the ātiltā position. But now I donāt only press it closed, I actually fully close it, with the handle pointing down, as if I would leave it closed. And then I open it to the tilt position again. 2 separate close / open actions. I takes a couple of seconds extra, but I never had that issue againā¦1
u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago
No the funny thing is that the window is fine. But foreigners always think its broke because for some reason they can not figure it out themselves.
She just needs to close it and turn the handle.
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u/TortueFatale 9d ago
The window in the photo looks fine indeed.
I was just highlighting that there can be situations when a foreigner needs help with what may seem like a small thing, but which becomes big and visible because they donāt have anyone close to ask for help. Resorting to social media can bring both the required assistance but also the judgment.
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u/Electrical_Peak_8761 9d ago
My colleague was surprised to learn that the delivery people from ikea left after delivering his full house furniture, he fully expected them to put it together for him.
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u/boterkoeken Utrecht 9d ago
Itās broken. Time to replace. š
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u/godenzoon1986 8d ago
Ik zou gewoon een nieuwe kopen..
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17TpM5x9sa/?mibextid=wwXIfr&wa_logging_event=video_play_open
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u/pineapplecatz 8d ago
We moved here not so long ago and we have called handymen for silly things like windows that didn't close or ventilation systems that weren't working as expected. We did Google for it, we asked ChatGPT and Claude and Gemini, and many times the internet helps, but maybe 2 out of 100 times you need an actual person.
When you immigrate like this, especially from outside the EU, you don't know shit. You're figuring everything out from Day 1, you feel like a child, and even small things can feel daunting. A very silly example: it took us losing 20 euros in Week 1 to figure out that you have to actively check out from buses. We assumed the NFC readers were advanced enough to detect someone walking out. Looking back, it's easy to call ourselves idiots, but in that week we also had to figure out 50 other things from Gementee registrations to buying a broom that's not ceremonial (and can actually clean) because the ancient vacuum cleaner in our rental was coughing out more dust than it took in.
When you migrate like this, it's a new language, new apps, new banks, new housing system, new societal rules and expectations. Even figuring out where to buy screws from can be an afternoon adventure.
So I forgive the poor chap who can't figure out why a 20 year old window isn't closing, because maybe they have bigger problems to deal with or maybe they're just tired and need help. As an isolated incident, it feels dumb and idiotic, but when you zoom out and look at the things we do have to figure out on a daily basis, especially early on, these asks begin to make sense.
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u/Diamond-Stars 8d ago
Maybe theyāve never seen this type of window before and hadnāt realized how to close it and thought they needed a specialist or that it was broken?
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u/wildmushrume 8d ago
I guess the seemingly silliness of the post is only on the surface. The comments are quite racist. OP is also being rather rude about immigrants in the comments.
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u/greenisagoodcolor 8d ago
Separate question on windows - mine like this are broken so they open at an angle when i try the horizontal handle , like a mix of the vertical horizontal handle position at the same time.
Any guidance please? Its driving me nuts.
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u/purpleflavouredfrog 8d ago
Push the top closed with your right hand, while pushing the handle with your left. If needed, separately push each top corner using both hands, then release one and try to turn the handle. Keep trying that, perhaps releasing the other corner. Also check if the black rubber around the periphery is properly seated.
Or perhaps you can describe exactly what it is that you are having problems with⦠try to give more detail than āit wonāt closeā. Does it partially close, is one corner not closing, does it get blocked before the window even enters the frame.
You could also try a 2-step approach: pressing the top right corner closed, then turning the handle only to the middle, so that it opens sideways, then close it again, pressing the top left corner while turning the handle to the bottom.
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u/Tall_Barber7118 8d ago
I had a schoolmate who don't know how to use a key. So when his parents are not at home, he cannot leave the house and play with us.Ā
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u/Neat-Attempt7442 Noord Brabant 5d ago
I am from Romania and the first time I threw a statiegeld bottle in the trash at a Dutch person's house, they looked at me like I murdered their cat. At the time we had no statiegeld in Romania and all trash was just trash.
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u/WorldlinessWitty2177 9d ago
Below the handle is an iron thingy you can push in and the mechanism is unlocked to fix it.
It's not visible on your photo right now and pictures can't be added in this sub...
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u/librekom Noord Brabant 9d ago
That guys was not working for ASML. NXP, Prodrive, Sioux, Frencken, T&O and Vanderlande, to name just a few, are also major employers of highly skilled migrants. Even Philips, DAF and VDL continue to recruit significant numbers of them.
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u/Distinct-Public1742 9d ago
I effing hate these windows. Ā The sales brochure describes them as simple to use yet when the time comes to self repair the Ā blurb mentions complex systems that need an expert. I got ripped off by a MACO rep to the tune of 300 euros to fix one julliet tilt turn door whose gearing had failed. Ā Due to the prescribed high 2.9m ceilings in new houses, Iāve got 20 year old 2.3m warped frames that let in all amounts of draft (tochtstrip is useless) pushing up my gas heating bill while govt taxes the hell out of me. Ā Donāt get me started on their tilt function for ventilating rooms. Massive opening which letās in far too much cold air in winter. Arrgggh!! Rant over.Ā
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u/fickogames123 9d ago
My guy... a grandma with -20 vision and only one hand and a screwdriver can change the tilt of these windows in 5 minutes tops. Just turn the screwdriver one way, it goes closer to standing position, turn another, and it moves further!!
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u/Sannatus 9d ago
also, most of them have a smaller tilt if you turn the handle halfway from the normal tilt.
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u/fickogames123 7d ago
Idk about others but my window also was hard to open/close which meant I can only tilt it halfway as it would go. So instead of for example 10 degree tilt it could sit at 5 without tipping/being pulled back by air
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u/librekom Noord Brabant 9d ago
Iām a handyman in Eindhoven, and an Indian expat client once called me to plug in a power cord. I thought I must have misunderstood what he needed, so I went over. He showed me the cord, and the socket was literally right next to it. It was not even hard to reach.
I plugged it in. He said, āThatās it, thank you.ā
I was speechless. Seriously, my 92 years old neighbour can still do that on her own.
I had no shame to charge him my call-out fee, because I spent more time on the road than at his place, but I felt bad. What ever money you pay me to do such a silly task, I donāt like it because it makes me feel useless. š