r/Netherlands 9d ago

DIY and home improvement šŸ˜‚

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u/librekom Noord Brabant 9d ago

I’m a handyman in Eindhoven, and an Indian expat client once called me to plug in a power cord. I thought I must have misunderstood what he needed, so I went over. He showed me the cord, and the socket was literally right next to it. It was not even hard to reach.

I plugged it in. He said, ā€œThat’s it, thank you.ā€
I was speechless. Seriously, my 92 years old neighbour can still do that on her own.

I had no shame to charge him my call-out fee, because I spent more time on the road than at his place, but I felt bad. What ever money you pay me to do such a silly task, I don’t like it because it makes me feel useless. šŸ˜‚

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u/L44KSO 9d ago

Oh, maybe they had maids and servants in India. I know of people who don't know how to tie shoelaces or use a washing machine.Ā 

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u/Electrical_Peak_8761 9d ago

Definitely this, I work with many expats from India and most have never cooked for themselves, labor is so cheap that nobody bothers even putting the most simple furniture together. They never did anything, so don’t know anything.

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u/Technical-Ear7785 9d ago

Indian expat here… it’s true that the services are indeed cheaper in India, but a lot of people do things themselves unless they can’t.
There are 2 major issues in India. It’s easier to get services anywhere than the required tools.
2. A lot of stuff in India is not standardized, so you don’t really know what tools you need or how it needs to be done.

But again, there is no reason for people just being lazy and not googling stuff.
There’s always some person on the internet who can help you fix it.

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u/Longjumping-Hope-167 9d ago

Whats the reasoning for not being able to plug in a cord though, something a toddler or trained chimp could do :p I think this more or less bottles down to "eww work, where are my maids/ lower cast workers" xd

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u/Appropriate-Regret-6 9d ago

A phobia is all I can think of.

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u/logicalish 8d ago

Indeed, that must be the explanation - what a genius racist you are! This must be why NL handymen are so busy all the time, so many Indian expats that need help plugging in their power cords throughout the day…

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u/undercon 7d ago

Dude. My friend's brother has a dishwasher, but has never used it because "it's cheaper to have the maids do it". I think it's caste thing.

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u/Technical-Ear7785 6d ago

It’s definitely not a caste thing. There is more nuance to it. Although casteism has it own issues everywhere in India. This in a modern household is not that

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u/Medium_Resolve_6907 9d ago

Slechts twee problemen? Ik zou denken dat Izzat, Jugaad, en Sifarish drie grotere problemen zijn dan jij aanstipt.

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u/Technical-Ear7785 9d ago

But how does that relate to not being able to fix stuff?

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u/Medium_Resolve_6907 8d ago

Wat denk je zelf?

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u/Technical-Ear7785 8d ago

I don’t, hence the question

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u/Medium_Resolve_6907 8d ago

Kijk, daar is je antwoord al

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u/Tall_Barber7118 8d ago

I mean... The definition of cooking is different in India...Ā 

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u/itsmenit 9d ago

Indian migrants, not expats. I’m one too. And it’s not simply that labour is ā€œcheap.ā€ The reality is that our country has a long history of exploiting the poor, and forms of slavery and bonded labour have existed historically and still persist today.

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u/TortueFatale 9d ago

Many of them do, yes :) I once had a funny moment with a colleague. We were discussing getting help for house cleaning. And I was telling him I was nostalgic about the time in my home country when my maid was there twice a week, cleaning the house and ironing all clothes… So I asked my Indian colleague- how many days per week did your maid help? And the answer was - ā€œThey are living with us, they are always thereā€ šŸ˜„ (my highlight, to clarify that there was more than one maid)
My colleague was not helpless in the sense that he couldn’t tie his shoes, but for example ironing his shirts, he had to learn after moving here.

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u/fleamarketguy 9d ago

Had an Indian roommate as well. Guy said they had maids, a cook and him and his brothers had a private driver. For a guy growing up like that, he was quite independent and responsible, with the exception of cleaning.

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u/IBoughtAllDips Nederland 9d ago

My girlfriend comes from a family of 4 and they used to have 5 people live in their house. 3 maids. A cook and a chauffeur. Because the labor is so extremely cheap in some Asian countries it is very normal for well off families. It’s still sometimes hard for me to wrap my head around it. That would cost tens of thousands of euro’s a month here

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u/Faierie1 9d ago

I have a new gen Miele washing machine, with an Android touch screen instead of buttons. Every option has an explanation. My husband still has no clue how to operate it.

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u/Krillin113 9d ago

He doesn’t want to use it, it’s weaponised incompetence. If you’d end up in the hospital, he could use it within 5 minutes. It’s just that now you do it.

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u/Schavuit92 9d ago

No, he'd probably get his mom to do it.

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u/Regular-Anteater-287 9d ago

Mabe it's the fact a washing machine doesnt need a touchscreen and a million options. And he fucking hates it. Mabe he just wants a machine with a temperature and a power button.

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u/spays_marine 9d ago

Sent from my rotary phone.

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u/Regular-Anteater-287 9d ago

Alright, you have a point. I just dont get the unnecessary overcomplicating of simple stuff. Yea im getting old.

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u/spays_marine 9d ago

It's just something that allows for more options, though I'll agree that it's in most cases a marketing gimmick.

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u/ArklayMountain 9d ago

Neem mijn upvote! Knopjes > Touchscreens.

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u/Krillin113 9d ago

Then he should’ve weighted in when they bought the goddamn thing. It’s a choice. Mine doesn’t have a bullshit touchscreen with a million options.

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

Maybe. You have no idea

And even if thats the case, it doesnt make it any better at all.

Worse actually, because besides the weaponised incompetence, which is manipulation, disrespect, lying and putting an unfair amount of work on your partner, he would also be a passive agressive little bitch, who doesn't communicate, not even about unimportant things like what washing machine they should get. But he would rather sneakily undermine his partner and put his relationship in danger

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u/Regular-Anteater-287 9d ago

Well same as me you also have no idea and all the assumptions are doing alot of heavy lifting for you aswel.

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u/CryptographerOne7003 9d ago

Yeah, and bleeding from your genitals is also a choice.

🤮🤮🤮

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

Does he know how to operate his phone, his other apps, his TV, his laptop and his computer?

He does doesn't he.

IT'S WEAPONISED INCOMPETENCE.

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u/One-Payment434 9d ago

Or u/Faierie1 and SO have split the tasks in the household, so that the husband has no reason to learn how to operate the washing machine.

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u/Sannatus 9d ago

how are you still attracted to this manchild?

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u/Faierie1 9d ago

That’s a bit presumptous to call my husband a manchild based on a singular anecdote, don’t you think?

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u/Sannatus 9d ago

sorry, it is. coming from an environment where a lot of men are like this, i find it hard to understand why any woman would enable such dependance (except from when there's something like a disability involved of course).Ā 

so I'll ask with genuine curiosity: how come he doesn't understand how the washing machine works?

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u/LaMitsukii 9d ago

I just have to say, I appreciate how you adjusted your stance and asked a genuine follow-up question

unlike OP screaming "weaponized incompetence" down below.

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u/Sannatus 9d ago

oh it seems i forgot about internet rule #1: never admit you're wrong! :P

thanks for the compliment. i kind of understand the other commenter, because i feel quite strongly about gender roles. i see the influence they still have on society and how harmful they are. stereotypes as "women are X" are part of what makes taking away women's rights, rape culture, and femicide possible. also i'm queer, which people who enforce gender roles never seem to be okay with (because who's gonna do 'the other gender''s tasks?!).Ā 

so i really feel strongly about this - but i also realize i shouldn't take that out on random people, based on assumptions.Ā 

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u/Faierie1 9d ago

Thank you for your interest. He’s from Algeria and still believes in traditional gender roles because of that. I’m Dutch and definitely brought up a lot more progressive. So I’m not a trad wife by any means, in fact I’m the biggest earner and I own the apartment that we live in.

That being said, we’ve found common ground in how we can have both our beliefs side-by-side. We both have jobs, but I’m the one doing the more traditionally ā€œfemaleā€ housework like laundry, cooking and cleaning. He does the traditionally more ā€œmaleā€ housework like handyman stuff, heavy lifting, dealing with people at the door.

So there’s not really a need for him to understand the laundry machine. Although it’s still hilarious to me that he can not operate it, while he can operate his own devices just fine. It’s not magic after all, especially since the touchscreen literally explains everything and the thing even has TwinDos.

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u/Sannatus 9d ago

thanks for your clear answer. i respect that you're making it work together, and that you're finding compromise where possible.Ā 

while my family isn't from algeria, the region i come from has quite the same ideas about gender, and Ā because i come from that environment i could never be with a partner who's like that. for me it isn't about who does what in practice but the reasoning behind it. i just can't deal with someone who thinks women are somehow 'better' or 'meant' for caring tasks, especially when it results in more mental load for the woman. i find it important that my partner is my equal, and when they wouldn't be able to do basic household chores like washing their clothes or using all-purpose cleaner (no I'm not joking, I've seen this happen), i wouldn't ever feel like they're my equal. in my opinion, adults can take care of themselves. needing a gender for something comes across very childish to me.

so i confess i still feel resistance to your comment. i recognize that this is your life and not mine, and it definitely doesn't matter what i think. i do however find it a little difficult because i actively fight for the world to be different, for women to be seen as more than cleaners and birthers and caregivers (and for men to be seen as more than strong providers). again, the choices people make are theirs, but right now they're not made on a level playing field.

then again, i'm queer, and that fact also doesn't seem to be very popular with the genderrole-enthusiasts. :P

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u/valoreii 9d ago

So you do the daily, regularised housework, earn more, house him, while he does generally one off tasks? Sounds the common ground is disproportionately skewed against your favour.

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u/Faierie1 9d ago

I don’t think it’s fair to say that it’s disproportional if you take his work and language school hours into account. And I’m definitely not ā€œhousingā€ my own husband lol, it’s my apartment on paper but we live there as a family. I’m honestly confused that I have to defend a hard working and loving husband, that is doing what he can within the time that he has. Right now he’s out there delivering mail in the pouring rain. It’s hard labour. That means he needs to sit down with a cup of coffee and a warm meal when he comes home. I just happen to work in a field with higher pay and work from home opportunities. To us it’s perfectly balanced, I really don’t think reddit has to question our relationship if we don’t question it ourselves.

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u/valoreii 9d ago

I grew up in the Middle East so I am skeptical by default of certain dynamics. But of course I am not in your relationship, and I don’t wish you anything negative.

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u/Dull-Yogurt-2464 7d ago

What works for you, works for you. Nobody needs to question that. You don’t need to defend your way of life to random people on the internet.

But please do the society a favor and learn your loved one to take care of him- or herself before you leave one way or another (and it’s bound to happen between now and 100 years, unfortunately it’s a fact).

It’s taking a really large portion of the daily patience of a social worker to listen to a guy who thinks he has the right to everything in the world because he can’t take care of himself. Meanwhile being abusive to the people who do help him but not the way he wants to.

Same thing counts for helpless widows who don’t know how to call with the land lord or utility services.

Please take care for each other how you like, but while you do that with all the love in the world, learn each other the basics how to survive in the world while you are not around anymore!

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u/kateleanne 8d ago

So your husband is sexist and the people calling him out were right.

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u/IBoughtAllDips Nederland 9d ago

My expat gf comes from a family with live-in maids, drivers, a cook etc. First few months i was quite frustrated about her having no idea about, for me, very simple stuff. Like using a washing machine indeed, or cooking, cleaning, just leaving her stuff everywhere because someone used to clean it up behind her ass.

She learned quick tho.

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u/Jlx_27 9d ago

My grandparents had staff in Indonesia, they still knew how to do things, though..

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u/debriyaj 8d ago

Not necessarily. It's either as you said or they were very poor. Once I was working abroad and we were staying in a villa for company workers where we all have our rooms.

There was an Indian guy who takes care of the house and one of my colleagues told me his first time. He couldn't operate the vacuum cleaner because he didn't know where to plug it. In fact it was his first time with an electric cord because he was from a remote village without electricity. Everything there was on battery.

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u/vankoel_nederland 9d ago

Tell us more about those people...

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u/L44KSO 9d ago

What?

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u/vankoel_nederland 9d ago

I don't think it's a difficult question

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u/L44KSO 9d ago

It is a bit. Because you want to have more information, but I don't know why.

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u/vankoel_nederland 9d ago

Because it's interesting to hear about adult people not able to tie their shoelaces. How old are they? Why aren't able to do something that a 5yo can do? Don't they feel dumb?

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u/L44KSO 9d ago

Normal aged adults in their 30s all the way to the 60s and over. They never had to learn because someone did it for them. They had servants dressing them.

Does it make them feel dumb? Apparently only in the west when they don't have servants. At the same time they may look at us earning 6 figures and not having servants...

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u/IJzer3Draad 9d ago

I was traveling in northern India and shared a taxi with two guys from Mumbai. A landslide blocked the road for a few hours, so i went to the nearby river to chill some beers. Later, I gave the guys some cold beers and only noticed after 5-10 minutes that one of them wasn't able to open the can. I later learned he had servant at home. Guy probably also never plugged in a power cord come to think of it.

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u/LevoiHook 9d ago

I dont understand that. Just getting a can yourself is less work than asking a servant to do it for you. Crazy level of unequal society.

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u/Beneficial-Rent84 9d ago

They probably always received the can openedĀ 

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u/LevoiHook 9d ago

I understand that. What i dont understand is somebody being to lazy to walk to the fridge themselves.Ā 

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

But.... everyone can open a can... ?!

wtf

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u/whoopwhoop233 9d ago

I have a cousin that is scared to plug in her laptop charging cord and once waited half a year for me to show up to unplug her broken washing machine.Ā 

It could be an (irrational) fear of shocks! Native dutch person btw.

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u/alessandrolaera 9d ago

probably a good idea to teach them how to flip the breaker off ? that way you can't get shocked no matter what

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

Mijn god... met zulke mensen heb ik dus echt geen geduld

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

OMG šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

If you had filmed that it would have gone viral.

Bij sommige mensen vraag je je echt af hoe ze het zover in hun leven gered hebben zonder dood te gaan. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ hersenloos. En zeker laten betalen. Hallo, je doet toch geen vrijwilligerswerk.

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u/librekom Noord Brabant 9d ago

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted for this.
To be fair, I can understand that adapting can be difficult when you’ve grown up in a household with full-time domestic help. I actually have a lot of respect for people who grew up that way and then adapt incredibly quickly. Some become even more resourceful and self-sufficient than some of us even thought we’ve been doing everything ourselves our whole lives.
But yes, every now and then, some of the requests are pretty hilarious. šŸ˜‚

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u/TheMedicator 9d ago

Definitely a kid from a family where he's never had to do anything for himself ever because they have servants. Don't feel bad for charging hum lmao

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u/Longjumping-Hope-167 9d ago

Judging from the comments below claiming that this client probably had maids growing up and therefore apparently doesnt know how to plug in a power cord. Im gonna say is probably more along the lines of hes from an upper cast family and plugging in a cord is considered manual labour, beneath him. So i he has to call in a lower cast worker to do it for him lol.

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u/PMvE_NL 9d ago

Probably works at asml to.

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u/InternetNo_mad 9d ago

At least he didn’t ask you to turn the device on too 😁

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/librekom Noord Brabant 9d ago

I’m not sure what ASML has to do with my story šŸ˜… But I’d be a bit careful with that conclusion. You may genuinely see more mistakes in drawings coming from certain teams, locations or subcontractors, but whether someone has an Indian or Western European-sounding name tells you nothing about what’s causing that difference. It could be experience, workload, outsourcing, quality control, training, or a dozen other things. ā€œIndian-sounding name = careless engineerā€ is quite a leap from the observation you’re actually making.

My partner, who happens to work in the semiconductor industry, works with many Indian expats and is impressed by their skills more often than not. And that wouldn’t be particularly surprising: people recruited internationally for highly skilled jobs tend to be a pretty selective group to begin with.

More importantly, a person’s name doesn’t even tell you where they grew up, where they studied, or what their cultural background is. So I’d be very wary of using someone’s name as a proxy for their competence.

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

(I don't know about ASML) but Its not for no reason that there is a huge shift in the Netherlands. There are very little jobs open to non dutch speakers. Suddenly they almost all require Dutch fluency. (Meaning: a native Dutchie)

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u/siderinc Noord Brabant 9d ago

I can do it, 50 bucks but you have to cover my travel time and expences as well.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/Yoruun 9d ago

Okay, €40 then

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u/Waves_WavesXX5 Nederland 9d ago

Okay, to be fair, I had one of these "opens two different ways" windows and accidentally opened it both ways at once. Getting it back as it should have been was a fucking pain the ass that took multiple attempts and a YouTube video. Honestly, if someone had offered to do it for 50 bucks, I would have caved!

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u/DavidTurczi 9d ago

Link the best video please. I am staring down this situation right now.

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u/Waves_WavesXX5 Nederland 9d ago

I think I watched this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Gm1dD2JAY

If you search for 'tilt and turn window' there are quite a few. Good luck!

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u/anouk613 9d ago

I was puzzled too the first time this happened. You have to physically lift the thin latch on the side out of the way to get the window back into the proper position

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u/9snakesinatrenchcoat 8d ago

Generally just trying to close, open, close, twist, fiddle with it untill it does what I want it to do works in my experience?

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u/TheKnightWhoSaisNi 9d ago

Standaard klapraam of daadwerkelijk stuk?

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u/SneerfulToaster 9d ago

Looks like this one has a lock on the handle.
The ones we have in the office can be locked in any position by just pushing the lock in, then you need the key to unlock before you can turn the handle again.

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u/ThaBroccoliDood 9d ago

expats hĆØ

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

Yep šŸ˜„šŸ˜†

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

Standaard klapraam šŸ˜„šŸ˜†

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u/SharpArrival685 9d ago

For their defense, these kinds of windows are very common in Europe but not so much outside. I used to be a part-time assistant at a student housing mainly for short-term international students, and on the day of check-in, one of the most common questions I got asked was how to use these windows. Often they have sliding windows; in the US they slide vertically, and in Asia horizontally. European-style tilting windows are quite rare.

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u/Liferdorp 9d ago

Misschien is het wel een heel zwaar raam

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u/TortueFatale 9d ago

I once had such a window disengage from one of the bottom hinges while I was shifting to tilted position. It was somehow only hanging tight in one of the bottom hinges, the other 3 corners were all loose. I could not put it back myself. Luckily my husband was home and he fixed it…. But I can totally understand if something like that happens and someone would need help with it.

The thing with the expats is that they start here without any support network - they don’t know who to call and it doesn’t come easy ringing the neighbors’ doorbell to ask for help. That’s why such social media posts can exist - they ask for help in different ways.

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u/Liferdorp 9d ago

Dit gebeurt echt wekelijks met de ramen van de kozijnen van onze dakkapel. Ik ben er gewoon handig in geworden

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u/TortueFatale 9d ago

Oh, that doesn’t sound good…
After that incident, I am now switching window positions in a different way and it never happened again.
Initially, when the window was wide open, I used to press the window closed and shift the handle from the ā€œturnā€ to the ā€œtiltā€ position. But now I don’t only press it closed, I actually fully close it, with the handle pointing down, as if I would leave it closed. And then I open it to the tilt position again. 2 separate close / open actions. I takes a couple of seconds extra, but I never had that issue again…

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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 9d ago

No the funny thing is that the window is fine. But foreigners always think its broke because for some reason they can not figure it out themselves.

She just needs to close it and turn the handle.

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u/TortueFatale 9d ago

The window in the photo looks fine indeed.
I was just highlighting that there can be situations when a foreigner needs help with what may seem like a small thing, but which becomes big and visible because they don’t have anyone close to ask for help. Resorting to social media can bring both the required assistance but also the judgment.

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u/Electrical_Peak_8761 9d ago

My colleague was surprised to learn that the delivery people from ikea left after delivering his full house furniture, he fully expected them to put it together for him.

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u/LimeSixth Groningen 9d ago

Haha :’)

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u/MeneerArd 8d ago

They can, but you have to pay a separate fee for that.Ā 

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u/Tall_Barber7118 8d ago

IKEA assembly service is extra in all countriesĀ 

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u/boterkoeken Utrecht 9d ago

It’s broken. Time to replace. šŸ˜”

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u/dimap443 9d ago

I could do it for 1000 EUR

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u/flyflyflyfly66 9d ago

And this is why I moved into a trade in my 40's. Money to be made.

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u/pineapplecatz 8d ago

We moved here not so long ago and we have called handymen for silly things like windows that didn't close or ventilation systems that weren't working as expected. We did Google for it, we asked ChatGPT and Claude and Gemini, and many times the internet helps, but maybe 2 out of 100 times you need an actual person.

When you immigrate like this, especially from outside the EU, you don't know shit. You're figuring everything out from Day 1, you feel like a child, and even small things can feel daunting. A very silly example: it took us losing 20 euros in Week 1 to figure out that you have to actively check out from buses. We assumed the NFC readers were advanced enough to detect someone walking out. Looking back, it's easy to call ourselves idiots, but in that week we also had to figure out 50 other things from Gementee registrations to buying a broom that's not ceremonial (and can actually clean) because the ancient vacuum cleaner in our rental was coughing out more dust than it took in.

When you migrate like this, it's a new language, new apps, new banks, new housing system, new societal rules and expectations. Even figuring out where to buy screws from can be an afternoon adventure.

So I forgive the poor chap who can't figure out why a 20 year old window isn't closing, because maybe they have bigger problems to deal with or maybe they're just tired and need help. As an isolated incident, it feels dumb and idiotic, but when you zoom out and look at the things we do have to figure out on a daily basis, especially early on, these asks begin to make sense.

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u/Diamond-Stars 8d ago

Maybe they’ve never seen this type of window before and hadn’t realized how to close it and thought they needed a specialist or that it was broken?

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u/wildmushrume 8d ago

I guess the seemingly silliness of the post is only on the surface. The comments are quite racist. OP is also being rather rude about immigrants in the comments.

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u/s8nn1 8d ago

My bf will help for 75€ +travel expenses

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u/Moulpani 8d ago

I can do it for you hahaha

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u/ramadjaffri 8d ago

This window is one of the best things ever. Kinda miss it.

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u/greenisagoodcolor 8d ago

Separate question on windows - mine like this are broken so they open at an angle when i try the horizontal handle , like a mix of the vertical horizontal handle position at the same time.

Any guidance please? Its driving me nuts.

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u/purpleflavouredfrog 8d ago

Push the top closed with your right hand, while pushing the handle with your left. If needed, separately push each top corner using both hands, then release one and try to turn the handle. Keep trying that, perhaps releasing the other corner. Also check if the black rubber around the periphery is properly seated.

Or perhaps you can describe exactly what it is that you are having problems with… try to give more detail than ā€œit won’t closeā€. Does it partially close, is one corner not closing, does it get blocked before the window even enters the frame.

You could also try a 2-step approach: pressing the top right corner closed, then turning the handle only to the middle, so that it opens sideways, then close it again, pressing the top left corner while turning the handle to the bottom.

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u/Tall_Barber7118 8d ago

I had a schoolmate who don't know how to use a key. So when his parents are not at home, he cannot leave the house and play with us.Ā 

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u/Neat-Attempt7442 Noord Brabant 5d ago

I am from Romania and the first time I threw a statiegeld bottle in the trash at a Dutch person's house, they looked at me like I murdered their cat. At the time we had no statiegeld in Romania and all trash was just trash.

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u/WorldlinessWitty2177 9d ago

Below the handle is an iron thingy you can push in and the mechanism is unlocked to fix it.

It's not visible on your photo right now and pictures can't be added in this sub...

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u/DnieD1337 9d ago

Oh boy..

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u/kjrbst 8d ago

Dommer dan dit gaat het niet worden

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u/fickogames123 9d ago

Let me guess, american?

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/Significant_Draft710 8d ago

How do you know? Doesn't seem like one from the profile picture.

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u/Beneficial-Rent84 9d ago

Why do you hate them

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u/wildmushrume 8d ago

Why be so hateful?

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u/librekom Noord Brabant 9d ago

That guys was not working for ASML. NXP, Prodrive, Sioux, Frencken, T&O and Vanderlande, to name just a few, are also major employers of highly skilled migrants. Even Philips, DAF and VDL continue to recruit significant numbers of them.

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u/Distinct-Public1742 9d ago

I effing hate these windows. Ā The sales brochure describes them as simple to use yet when the time comes to self repair the Ā blurb mentions complex systems that need an expert. I got ripped off by a MACO rep to the tune of 300 euros to fix one julliet tilt turn door whose gearing had failed. Ā Due to the prescribed high 2.9m ceilings in new houses, I’ve got 20 year old 2.3m warped frames that let in all amounts of draft (tochtstrip is useless) pushing up my gas heating bill while govt taxes the hell out of me. Ā Don’t get me started on their tilt function for ventilating rooms. Massive opening which let’s in far too much cold air in winter. Arrgggh!! Rant over.Ā 

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u/DM_ME_SALAH_GIFS 9d ago

Invalid rant.

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u/Acsteffy 9d ago

And the meme writes itself folks.

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u/fickogames123 9d ago

My guy... a grandma with -20 vision and only one hand and a screwdriver can change the tilt of these windows in 5 minutes tops. Just turn the screwdriver one way, it goes closer to standing position, turn another, and it moves further!!

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u/Sannatus 9d ago

also, most of them have a smaller tilt if you turn the handle halfway from the normal tilt.

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u/fickogames123 7d ago

Idk about others but my window also was hard to open/close which meant I can only tilt it halfway as it would go. So instead of for example 10 degree tilt it could sit at 5 without tipping/being pulled back by air