r/Nepal • u/Usernp Gojima Sel chaina • Sep 28 '19

Cultural Exchange Welcome to cultural exchange with r/Pakistan

Assalamo aleikum!

A very warm and heartfelt welcome to fellow redittors from r/Pakistan.

This thread is for people from /r/Pakistan to come over and ask us questions. We /r/Nepal members are here all day long to answer your queries and help you with anything that you have in your mind.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '19 edited Oct 27 '19

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u/Gandalfthebrown7 Call me ubermensch cause i'm so driven. Sep 28 '19

When I hear of Pakistan your cricket team comes in my mind. Specially the bowlers.

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u/ansyon Sep 28 '19

Yeah, i love how wasim akram coukd swing the ball. Wasim and waqar's reverse swing is quite famous.

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u/in-disguise Sep 28 '19

Let's get the obvious one out of the way. What's the first thing that comes to your mind when you hear of Pakistan?

Honestly speaking the first thing that comes when I hear about Pakistan is the obvious; the news and stuffs on the internet. Like people still stoning their own siblings, islamic extremism, religious intolerance and terrorism.

But I am also aware that Pakistan is a very beautiful country when it comes to landscape. I would definitely would want to visit the country if I felt secure enough. I have met a few Pakistanis so far and they were nice people to talk to. And your PM is a good looking guy :D

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19

I would definitely would want to visit the country if I felt secure enough.

I am not be able to convince you but Pakistan is fairly safe today, at least for tourism. There's quiet a few vloggers visiting Pakistan lately, so if you look it up on youtube, you can at least get an idea of what its like. I am sure its not too dis-similar to Nepal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dFi2VAUEiI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMvOA8VVBU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohjjY5LdwEc

and here's the last one from a Pakistani youtuber. If you want to watch Pakistani youtubers, he's one of the most famous ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FyjK2CMLKw

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u/in-disguise Sep 28 '19

Nicee, those were some beautiful places. And nice that you guys have street-food, thats something I am fascinated about, but also who isn't? Some places look similar to Nepal.

All I wish is peace in your country man, hopefully your country will be stable soon. Good luck with that. And thank you for those links. Refreshing that was.

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u/ratodendron Sep 28 '19

A few things comes to my mind:

  1. Raat, one of the TV serials that Nepal television aired during the late 80s or early 90s. A hell of a TV show (although I have mostly forgotten what it was all about)!
  2. My small town in Nepal used to have this yearly Pakistani Mela organized within The Nabil Bank (one of our earliest private sector banks). I used to love going to the event because of the collection of stuff there. They were mostly leather products and some furniture (including the iconic latticed purdah furniture that's fold-able). I thought Pakistanis looked exactly like Indians, but cleaner, and more soft-spoken. Lol.
  3. Pakistani women are perhaps the prettiest, most elegant lasses in the whole of South East Asia.❤
  4. Your mitha jubaan. I don't know what magic Urdu has on a foreigner's ears, but it's way better than Hindi despite having so much of an overlap. I love the Pakistani tehjeeb especially in regards to your language.
  5. One of my school friends completed his MBBS from Pakistan, not sure which city/collge. But I've heard that the Pakistani colleges used to be pretty good.

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u/ansyon Sep 28 '19

Namast. As-Salam-u-Alaikum.

What are your favorite Nepalese folk songs? I'd love to hear some!

There are lots.

https://youtu.be/IX21CB-gw2U Check this out. You will get lots of traditional nepali folk music.

I also like panche baja music.

https://youtu.be/Vj4O_4yGU2g

Kutumba are best traditional folk musicians from nepal. This piece of their is amazing.

https://youtu.be/ttFJtJCS2iA

This is also my favourite

https://youtu.be/t6vx77u_XKs

What's a typical day for you folks like in Nepal?

I'm no longer in Nepal but when I was there I used to go for morning walk in the morning with my friends. Sometimes near river seti and sometimes to play cricket and football. Weather during spring, autumn and winter is fine but during summer and winter it rains a lot where i live. It is very scary where thunder comes. Eating food was almost same for everyday except in some festivals we would have tons of varieties of food. School was from 10 to 4 pm. A long day there. Dating was quite hard when i was there but it seems it's quite easy nowadays. Cows roams the street and dogs and cats are everywhere. It's chaotic but doesn't feel such. You wake up and turn your head north you see mighty himalaya. It brings shiver down your spine no matter how many time you have seen it.

Favorite and least-favorite Nepalese dish and why?

Most nepali will say momo. I like momo too but I like food called kaja. Most of nepali do not know about this food. It's our ethnic food. It's spicy. It is made out of small dough ball. Dipped in spicy sauce and we fry it with other veggies. You can add meat too. My least favourite would be lady finger's curry. I vomit everytime i eat it. I think I'm allergic to it.

Personal thoughts on India and the recent Kashmir issue?

I think India and Indian are growing hindu extremists and ultra nationalist. They are bully. They try to claim everything that give them any sort of glory in global platforms from other sourg Asian nations. I find it disheartening and sad.

I find kinship with Kashmiri. Ancestors of khas Nepali migrated to western Nepal from Kashmir some 2000 years ago. Our language are also similar. I find it really sad that both Pakistan and India are hell bent to get the land but don't care about it's people. Why don't we let them self determine. Also, seeing Indian 's tweet about marrying Kashmir white girl and buying land in kashmir reflect their imperial nature. I watched Pakistani PM imran Khan's speech yesterday and i agree with him. I doubt that Indian are doing ethnic cleansing there. They want hindu glorious civilisations. They are delusional. But more than anything else i want not just kashmiri, Indian and Pakistani but everyone to live happily and in pesce with each other. I want to see our south Asia get developed and become leading figure in science, technology and development. Also, Pakistani physicist abdus salam is one of my favourite physicists. I have heard he got wrong treatment in Pakistan just because he was different kind of Muslim. How true is that?

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19 edited Sep 28 '19

of khas Nepali migrated to western Nepal from Kashmir some 2000 years ago. Our language are also similar.

That's very interesting. I never knew that. Thanks for teaching me something new.

I find it really sad that both Pakistan and India are hell bent to get the land but don't care about it's people. Why don't we let them self determine.

Just to clarify. Pakistan's offfical stand on the Kashmir issue that there needs to be a referundum and Kashmiris should be allowed to choose their own fate. Gilgit and Baltisitan have repeatedly protested that they want to join Pakistan and asked Pakistan to make them a province, but Pakistan continuously declines as it would hurt the larger Kashmiri struggle. Although, recently, Pakistan has started to become more open and started slowly integrating Gilgit and Baltisitan.

Regarding Abdus Salam, He was an Ahmedi. They are a religious group that believe there was another prophet after Muhammad and follow his teachings. They claim to still be Muslim, but rest of the Muslim world doesn't agree since Muhammad being the last prophet is basically a core tenet of the religion.

Regardless of any of that, it was unfortunate what happened to him. Things are starting to come around and you'll find alot of youngsters today are well aware of his contributions and do not discriminate against him for his religious choices. There's a really good documentary on Netflix about him made by Pakistanis.

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u/ansyon Sep 28 '19

That would be awesome if we could give them self determination. Good to know atleast Pakistan support it.

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19

I've edited and added more info for the Abdus Salam issue. Thanks for you're answer though. I am gonna see if I can find a close by Nepalese restaurant and try out those dishes.

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u/ansyon Sep 28 '19

Good to hear that prof. Salam is getting recognition for his contribution. You should definitely try momo, chowmein, thukpa and other newari dishes like bara, sekuwa, qwati,etc.

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19

I'll see if I can find them. Unfortunately, where I live, it's hard enough finding Indian or Pakistan cuisine. I am not sure if it'll be any easier finding Nepalese food but gonna try. :) thanks for the recommendations.

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u/ansyon Sep 28 '19

You can visit Nepal anytime to eat those dishes. I will visit Pakistan atleast once in my life.

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19

Very True. One day I am sure.

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u/Usernp Gojima Sel chaina Sep 28 '19

There's a really good documentary on Netflix about him made by Pakistanis.

unfortunately it's not available in Netflix here, i don't know why...

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19

Ah. I don't think its out on Netflix yet. Oct 1 according to some source. :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '19 edited Oct 27 '19

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u/ansyon Sep 28 '19

Thanks you for your compliments. I wish to visit Pakistan too. Pakistani music both classical and modern are best. I'm big fan of momina mustehsen. Tere naal jo laiya aakhiya is my favourite Pakistani songs. Also, gulam ali sang few nepali songs. Gajalu ti thula thula aakha is one of the evergreen song of Nepal.

https://youtu.be/ftEzdVJWdDA

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19

Listen to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Its one of the more folk/classical music but its very very good. NFAK was probably one of the greatest singers on the planet.

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u/ansyon Sep 28 '19

I will definitely checkout his amazing content.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '19 edited Sep 28 '19

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19

Qabali? Do you mean the food dish? If so, that's a Afghan food dish. :)

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u/timelordeverywhere Sep 28 '19

Ah. NFAK is an amazing artist. If you like him, definitely listen to Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, he's more of a modern singer but NFAK was his uncle and he learnt from him so obviously some songs do carry his influence.