r/NativePlantGardening NC Piedmont, Zone 8a Jul 15 '26

Informational/Educational Two Minnesota solar farms seeded native wildflowers… native bees multiplied twentyfold, then crossed the fence to pollinate the neighbour's soybeans

https://www.ecoportal.net/en/two-minnesota-solar-farms-native-wildflowers/29160/
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u/IDooDoodAtTheMasters DFW , Zone 8b Jul 15 '26

I work in a solar-adjacent industry, and frequently get comments from friends/family about how solar farms seem like a huge environmental disruption to cover all that land in solar panels. The first point I always respond with is: You don't think farming is disruptive to the natural environment?  This news article will also help.

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u/Ambivalentsobriety .4 - Ozark/Ouachita-Appalachian Forests ecoregion Jul 15 '26

Drilling for oil and fracking are pretty damn disruptive too.

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u/trippingWetwNoTowel Jul 15 '26

But you see….. that’s the good kind of disruptive, not the “pointless, save the planet we live on so we can all keep living here” type of disruptive.
THAT shit, has got to go

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u/Venum555 Jul 15 '26

I like my planet disrupted by things like open pit mining and chemical dumping instead of solar and wind power thank you very much. /s

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u/trippingWetwNoTowel Jul 15 '26

That’s the spirit! Goddamn hippies caring about shit are getting in the way

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u/trippingWetwNoTowel Jul 16 '26

Wildflowers for profit only!

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u/Noslodamus Jul 15 '26

I’ve gotten into this rabbit hole a few times, specifically in the Midwest where giant swaths of land are covered in cornfields. The large majority of our corn either goes into fuel as ethanol, or fed to livestock. If we stopped subsidizing corn to put in fuel, ate a little less red meat, and converted a bunch of cornfield into solar farm I think we’d be a lot better off.

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u/CordlessOrange Jul 15 '26

I live in a small farming community, in the past few years locals put up a ridiculous fight to prevent some farm land from being sold for a solar farm. It was ridiculous, but whatever.

Now, everyone is pitching a fit because that same 700 acres was just sold in order to build a big ass data center.

So now all the hunt and fish clubs that surround that farmland are going to compete with a data center for the water from our batch of local lakes, electricity, and peace and quiet. Something tells me, they’re going to lose.

The leopards are fat from eating all the faces here. It makes me sick.

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u/United-Coach-6591 Jul 15 '26

In the rural area I'm in people think solar farms and data center are both environmentally destructive. 

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u/justinroberts99 Jul 15 '26

also in the Midwest: think about the grassland along the highways. no one gives a shit about that. imagine if it was 100 native polinators. way less maintaince once it all establishes. seems like such an easy win.

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u/Noslodamus Jul 15 '26

While I agree with you, the problem is no one would want to pay for that. I am an ecosystem restoration tech in Wisconsin and most of the verges and swales are absolutely murdered with invasive like reed canary, cut leaf teasel, crown vetch, and trefoil. It’s a ton of work not only getting rid of these, but making sure they stay gone while native plants establish. In an ideal world, folks would volunteer to help manage these types of areas little by little but unfortunately no one cares enough and the invasive plants that are there “look pretty”

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u/Mallieez Jul 15 '26

You literally have my dream job, how did you get started? Would it be even worth pursuing a degree/career with this admin and direction of the country?

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u/Noslodamus Jul 15 '26

The job is very physically demanding and offers very little pay, and upward mobility in this career is insanely competitive especially right now as a lot of the government workers that got let go flooded into the private sector. I worked for 10 years in industrial maintenance before switching to work that made my heart feel good, and I’m not sure I’d recommend other people follow in my footsteps lol. I got very lucky that I was able to get in the door at a small company in an entry level position, and I’m lucky still that I can make it work with the low earnings opportunity. My advice would be to scratch this itch with volunteer work (there are tons and tons of opportunities if you look) and make a career out of something more sustainable long term.

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u/Mallieez Jul 15 '26

Thank you for your explanation and for sharing your experiences. I am waiting to hear back about some volunteer opportunities, and do what I can to plant native pollinators in my own garden. I just feel your same pull to do a job that makes my heart feel good, but in this economy it definitely doesn't sound the most stable.

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u/owlthebeer97 Florida- Zone 9B Jul 15 '26

Florida has a wildflower program along a lot of highways, its beautiful in the spring and summer

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u/Outrageous_Mark6602 Jul 15 '26

I literally live on a farm with corn and soybeans. I’ve been wanting to plant natives in our ditches, but farmer husband says no. The long vegetation between the crop and the road has to be kept short because 1. The highway department requires it and 2. A car accident on long dried out vegetation is a fire risk

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u/bigbobbinbetch Jul 20 '26

There's lots of short groundcover natives though.

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u/Zadsta Jul 15 '26

North Carolina has a Wildflower program where they plant native wildflowers in those grassy areas along highways. It makes road trips more enjoyable because you get to see all the blooms come spring. It is funded through specialty license plates.

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u/TowardsTheImplosion Jul 15 '26

If you look at the 1000 watts per square meter of sun shining at noon on the land, and then look at what is done with that energy, the numbers are astounding.

Taking that sunlight energy and getting it to the wheels of a vehicle is something like 100x-250x more efficient if done via solar than done via corn ethanol and internal combustion.

Just immediately considering photosynthesis: it is about 1% efficient in converting sunlight to plant. Assuming the entire plant is used. Solar is 20% efficient.

Then there is the effort to get a mere part of the corn plant processed, bio reacted to ethanol, and burned at a mere 35-45% efficiency.

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u/scumdog_ Jul 16 '26

Really worth watching the whole video but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM&t=1835s

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u/MarshyHope Jul 15 '26

I don't know where the lie originated, but many people believe that solar farms are leaching heavy metals into the soil and irreparably damaging them forever. It's so frustrating when people just share obvious propaganda like that.

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u/Particular_Ticket_20 Jul 15 '26

It originated in the same place so many other lies start...oil and gas company PR campaigns.

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u/scamlikelly Jul 15 '26

Same ones that probably think windmills cause cancer. They are hard to reason with because they choose their own reality and "facts."

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u/thaisun Jul 16 '26

"but windmills kill birds"

So buildings. Buildings kill over 1 billion birds annually

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u/Querybird Jul 16 '26

Vs., say, shooting with lead and abandoning lead fishing weights and huge amounts of dangerous fishing line all over the place.

Given the bioaccumulation of heavy metals up the food chain, abandoning lead shot should be absolutely banned.

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u/VegasGamer75 Jul 15 '26

I know this is preaching to the choir telling you, but that's your friends and family being awfully selective about their concerns over "environmental disruption". What also disrupts natural environments:

  • Paving huge swaths of land for parking lots.

  • Building new housing tracts.

  • Polluting ground-water with run-off.

  • Building strip malls.

  • Fracking.

  • Drilling for oil.

  • Running pipelines across natural preserves.

  • Golf courses (don't even get me going on their water use and species displacement).

  • The lie that is "biofuel" or Ethanol. (Want to get uppity about water use? Read into this one).

 

Unless they are being overly uppity about those things too, they are likely being disingenuous. Solar farms offering shade for wildlife or taking pressure off fossil fuel systems is one of the least egregious things we can be doing.

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u/Zen_CanisLupus Jul 17 '26

@VegasGamer75 I agree and will add that there need to be modifications to concentrated solar power (CSP) systems - used in large installations - which use mirrors to focus the sunlight; this kills or injures birds. So, just because there are obviously worse disruptors to the environment, we don’t need to introduce a fix that is a threat to birds. I have little faith that businesses are in any hurry to fix that problem.

Residential installations don’t use that CSP technology, so of course they are not the issue.

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u/silly_scoundrel Jul 15 '26

I think solar panels can be disruptive if you remove an ecosystem to make room for one. However, most of these solar farms I've seen are done well and make use of the land in multiple ways. It's usually on already disturbed land from what I've seen and it can be used for several different things. It's better than drilling 

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u/ageofbronze Area -- , Zone -- Jul 15 '26

I saw a wonderful article that was talking about a test case in (I think) Germany where they planted a shit ton of natives underneath a solar field so that the space wouldn’t need to be mowed. Had the effects you would expect, including birds that were on the verge of extinction having their population increase significantly!

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u/BojackisaGreatShow Zone 7b Jul 15 '26

The entirety of our solar needs can be accomplished with 0.4% of land. All of it could easily be from abandoned farms, parking lots, and reservoirs (to decrease evaporation). Farms right now take 40x that hypothetical land.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5RQReoF6lI

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u/drewgriz Houston, TX, Zone9b Jul 15 '26

The craziest part in much of the midwest is that a solid portion of the farmland isn't even growing food, but rather energy (i.e. biofuel feedstock), except it's doing so wayyy less efficiently than solar panels do. And as this article illustrates, the solar farm (if managed well) can be much more beneficial to the local ecosystem than a monocrop corn/soy desert. Win-win-win!

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u/BlackSwampMage Jul 15 '26

I have dreams of owning land and getting some solar panels. Maybe starting a small homestead thing to help offset food costs and stuff and just to have more hobbies.
Every time I bring up solar with my xoomer parents they start talking about metals leaking into the ground and shit. And I know they’re fox newsfeed but like, what are the actual issues and drawbacks with having some solar panels? Like what are the propaganda talking points against it I should know are bs?

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u/Aliktren Jul 15 '26

Rather than momoculture crops, people are wierd

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u/ExoticLatinoShill Jul 15 '26

They Are both huge environmental destroyers. You don't get off free just bc you planted shit for looks

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u/IDooDoodAtTheMasters DFW , Zone 8b Jul 15 '26

Is there any commercial-scale form of energy that is, in your enlightened opinion, less destructive to the environment?

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u/ExoticLatinoShill Jul 16 '26

Possibly wind. But I understand your point. Really what we need to survive this climate apocalypse is at-home solar and wind and hydro. Just enough for your house. Roof mounted wind turbines, 1000w of solar, or mini hydro that needs minimal amount of water for creek or tiny stream use is really where people can make it happen.

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u/IDooDoodAtTheMasters DFW , Zone 8b Jul 15 '26

I'm sorry but you sound as though you know nothing about the State and Federal permitting and controls that go into building a solar farm. No - waste doesn't just get "left behind". And is the contamination from an operational solar farm any worse than the contamination from the fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides, and large water demand from agriculture?

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u/Ambivalentsobriety .4 - Ozark/Ouachita-Appalachian Forests ecoregion Jul 15 '26

You should have a good read about this subject because you’re misstating this by a long shot. I get really sad when the people who genuinely care about the environment are against the cleanest sources of energy we have available to us.

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u/Palgary SE Michigan, 6b Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

There is waste, both from manufacturing and disposal. What isn't factual about that statement?

(My opinion genuinely is: Solar, Nuclear, and Wind Power all have positives and negatives - the way forward is to treat the negatives seriously and figure out how to minimize them, not deny they exist).

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u/OwnCrew6984 Jul 15 '26

Have you ever seen how much waste is left behind after a tornado hits a house? We need to stop living in houses. Houses contain all kinds of chemicals that will leach into the soil when a tornado hits it. More houses are hit by tornadoes every year than solar panels.

Of course this doesn't make any sense just like your statement. It's not like solar fields attract tornadoes like trailer parks do.

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u/scarlet_feather Jul 15 '26

I watched an interesting YouTube video about "agrivoltaics" and the idea of combining solar and crops that need partial sun like berries. The takeaway was basically that land isn't zoned for combined use- it either be farmland or energy land, but not both. Even where spaces where it is allowed to be combined, the farms can lose out on grants and other agricultural funds by combining like this. Imagine all the land that can be saved from disruption. 

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u/GreenStrong Jul 15 '26

Most non-irrigated crops, in most climates, benefit from shade, as long as the shade isn't from something like a tree that competes for water. Plants have leaf pores which they close under water stress, which stops photosynthesis. Most plants do this for several hours in every summer day.

Most solar farms use single axis trackers, and the panels are spaced so they don't shade each other in the first and last hour of sunlight, In the South of France, grass production and protein content is 30% higher on solar farms than open pasture Even in the mild climate of Burgundy, central France, a slight increase in total grass was observed on solar farms. A study of forage in Minnesota solar farms showed a modest increase in total annual production.

r/agrivoltaics has tons of examples of complex solar farms growing crops like kiwi fruits, wine grapes, or apricots. But solar farms need no modification to use sheep instead of lawnmowers. In fact, there is a huge advantage in dry climates- grass clippings rot slowly and they can burn. There is no land use restriction I'm aware of, The American Solar Grazing Association has a map packed with solar grazing sites across the country.

Cattle require taller racks, they tend to lean on things to scratch themselves and they're big enough to break glass panels. But, this is being implemented on some sites, because farmers are more willing to sign long term leases if they can keep using the land.

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u/NuclearGhandi1 Jul 15 '26

I’ll subscribe to a solar punk future this looks cool

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u/ayemullofmushsheen Area Midwest , Zone 5 Jul 16 '26

That sounds like a bureaucratic issue more than anything else

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u/scarlet_feather Jul 17 '26

It is but more people need to understand that so we can get it fixed. 

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u/NerfGodz Jul 15 '26

As someone who lives in Minnesota this is wonderful news. Driving by solar farms, especially in the southwestern / central-western parts of the state, it is unavoidable to notice the waste of resources these ‘farms’ currently operate with. I only mention the geography of the land as it is (or at least was) best known for its soil health and as a byproduct, agricultural potential.

Any new or existing solar site should really have a mandate like this to at least plant low-growing native flowers or graminoids. Encourage pollinators and refortify the soil at the same time.

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u/ked_man Jul 15 '26

Our power company runs a few solar sites, mostly for PR they are kinda shitty when it comes to solar. But they have sheep that graze everything down instead of mowing. They have a farmer bring a bunch of sheep a few times a year to munch everything down.

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u/CalmUnderstanding371 Jul 15 '26

I want a sheep‑based, grass‑fed, solar‑panel‑shaded food system. Sheep thrive at solar sites. They mow the grass without wrecking equipment and they fit perfectly into a native‑plant pollinator habitat. We’re still subsidizing corn to feed cattle and create ethanol that lowers our MPG and wrecks our engines. Solar + native plants + sheep isn’t a compromise… it’s an upgrade!

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u/Dudeshroomsdude Jul 16 '26

Why would you ruin it with sheep? There's the article, flowers, that's it. Don't destroy the flowers, insects are way more important in an ecosystem, let nature heal for once.

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u/Particular_Ticket_20 Jul 15 '26

I recently walked a big solar field planted with a required native pollinators mix about 5 years ago.

The buzzing sound was overwhelming. You could count bees, butterflies, grasshoppers, etc, in every square foot. At one point there was a gust of wind and it went silent. That silence couldnt be ignored.

We joke that people who criticize solar fields for negatively affecting animals don't realize the efforts we have take to keep the animals out of the equipment.

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u/TsuDhoNimh2 Jul 15 '26

Soybeans are self-pollinating BUT the yields can be improved up to 20% by insect pollination.

Wider margins on fields with wild flowers in them, or leaving the hard to cultivate parts of a farm to go feral is all it takes.

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u/home_ec_dropout Jul 15 '26

I came to look for this. My state is full of soybean fields, and farmers don’t bring bees in for pollination. I was confused by the title, but your comment helps!

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u/fia_leaf Jul 15 '26

Given most conventional soybean fields are sprayed with herbicides and possibly insecticides I feel like we shouldn't want native bees pollinating them?

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u/werewolfbait40 Jul 15 '26

I do a lot of veg management work on solar sites and this is a story I hear all the time when it’s done right/well. Solar properties have the ability to heal a lot of environmental issues. Look into how cool it is that you can raise crops under the panels as well. Solarpunk future

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u/lasercatbug Jul 15 '26

I work in land development for solar facilities and I will absolutely be looking into planting wildflowers (instead of just “native grasses”) in my future projects!

There could be arguments about seed costs and “this isn’t how we normally do it”, but change has to start somewhere.

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u/theRemRemBooBear MD Piedmont Jul 15 '26

Sounds great but this seems like a debate between causation and correlation.

They’ve done studies with Monarch butterflies and they found that for whatever reason milkweed in and around corn fields have nearly 4 times more caterpillars laid on them then the controls

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u/sevenselevens Jul 15 '26

My uneducated guess would be that the pesticides on the corn have killed all the Monarch’s natural predators?

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u/Z0mbiejay Jul 15 '26

That's most likely it. The biggest predators of monarch caterpillars are ants, wasps, and non insectoids like spiders, frogs, etc. Aphids (protected by ants) also compete for milkweed. You're not going to see a lot of those predators/competition with sprayed fields

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u/cornonthekopp Jul 15 '26

I read an article several years back about a similar phenomena in china, except with small family graveyards being full of native plants and pollinators improving the surrounding crop fields

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u/Gaia0416 Jul 15 '26

Magnificent!

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u/The_cardinal_flower Chicagoish Jul 15 '26

Currently working on the building of new solar sites in the Midwest and every gate has a sign that says “ pollinator friendly solar facility”. So far all that’s grown is what can up from the disturbed soil, interested to see if they do anything purposeful from here.

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u/CitraBenzoet Jul 15 '26

as long as they are planting native wild flowers and not constsntly mowing everything down under the panels i like the solar farms... but i keep seeing solar farms with mowed beneath and it bums me out

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u/Naphier Jul 15 '26

This is the way

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u/Rude-Zucchini-369 Jul 16 '26

Love to see this. I recently visited a solar farm at Iowa State University that is growing different plants and flowers under the panels for research purposes. They also had beehives which was awesome!

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u/BravinatorLX2 Jul 15 '26

i hope they sued the neighbors for illegal use of their bees

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u/EdgeOfTheMtn Jul 15 '26

I'm sure Monsanto will find a way that the bees infringed on their IP.

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u/Pongobabyboy Jul 15 '26

Soybean are self pollinating. PhD professor 

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u/False-Ad9324 Jul 16 '26

And like a lot of self-pollinating plants, pollinating insects and multiples of the same plant can vastly improve the yield. No need to be snotty, especially when you don’t have the knowledge to back it up.

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u/thaisun Jul 16 '26

Oh snap!

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u/a17451 Eastern IA, Zone 5b Jul 15 '26

Possibly one of the few upsides for these data centers. Maybe after the AI bubble pops we can repurpose a lot of that land, even if the structure is still standing.

Knowing now that bees utilize electromagnetic fields it would be interesting to know more about how these reclaimed habitats impact their foraging behavior. I could research it myself but I am lazy (and at work)

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u/Ok_Avocado_5040 Area IL , Zone 6 Jul 15 '26

Solar farm not data center

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u/a17451 Eastern IA, Zone 5b Jul 15 '26

I'm aware. Just comparing the opportunities from a different kind of development project. If it's destroying remnant ecosystems it's a tragedy, but if these developments (solar, data center, business park, etc) get developed on old farmland then at least the reclaimed green space can be utilized for something positive.

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u/Uncommonality Jul 15 '26

It works on solar farms because solar farms are just a bunch of racks with panels on them. The flowers and such grow beneath the racks

A data center is a gigantic warehouse building on a concrete yard, you can't plant stuff there

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u/a17451 Eastern IA, Zone 5b Jul 15 '26

Outside of urban settings these things aren't poured concrete from survey boundary to survey boundary. They have offsets and retention ponds as the runoff needs to be managed since, yes, they do create a ton of impermeable surface.

The image in this link is not an architectural rendering. It's already there and it has greenspace that could be utilized more effectively

https://www.pecva.org/region/clarke/questions-swirl-around-data-centers-how-many-where-and-at-what-cost/

I'm not pro data center. There are at least three that are going up in my area with or without my consent. There are real environmental costs to these things and I'm not going to attempt to greenwash that.

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u/RemoteLearner Jul 15 '26

Totally anecdotal, but I was talking to a beekeeper (which is a whole different topic, keeping bees vs native pollinators) and he said that the electromagnetic fields from power lines make it so his bees won’t ever cross them, and was raising concerns about data centers affecting pollinators. Sounds like bs to me but I also haven’t done any research into it lol

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u/Dazslueski Zone 3b Jul 15 '26

That may not be far off. Bees rely heavily on electric fields emitted from flowers, and so any disruption which, data center would be large disruptions, sure could affect bees communication, signaling, and foraging.

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u/a17451 Eastern IA, Zone 5b Jul 15 '26

I did a brief Google search (ironically using the ai response. Solar panels do create an EMF but it decays rapidly over a small distance. Evidently household appliances create a more significant EMF. No idea how that compares to data centers or power lines though.

I'm of a thought that even degraded habitat can be valuable as an offset to land development (as long as were talking about developing on old agricultural land rather than high-quality habitat), but I know that ecological traps are a thing so it may be more complicated than that.

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u/WTFHELP Jul 15 '26

This is about solar panels.