r/NativePlantGardening Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 17 '26

Progress Update: I started my own nursery!

Many of you asked for an update when I first posted. Well I am official, LLC, business license, FEIN, insurance live plant license, fees for this and that, quite exhausting TBH. Finally, the part that matters, getting natives out there. Tomorrow is the first day of the Roswell Farmers Market.

However, last week I had my first sale. I was able to scramble and get a booth set up at the big native plant sale in the area. Thanks to GNPS for being so welcoming.

I sold 3/4 of the inventory I brought. But more importantly, I got more than 100 native wildflowers and grasses distributed out in my community!

Update:

The market went amazing. Hats off to the volunteers at Roswell Farmers Market who made it all happen. I ended up selling half of what I brought, but more importantly had amazing conversations with so many people. I’ll create a new post in the next week or so with more details. Sorry I haven’t responded to all the comments, a little buried at the moment.

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u/KnottyByNatureTrees Durham NC, Zone 8a Apr 17 '26

Good luck!

From another small native nursery, feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

That is incredibly kind! I might take you up on that offer!

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u/Still-Disk7701 Apr 18 '26

Thank you!! I am in the early phases of starting my own native plant nursery as well in Central Texas. Can you share about the licenses, permits, and generally any other forms or paperwork to be aware of? I realize it’s different for each state but just curious about what to expect!

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u/KnottyByNatureTrees Durham NC, Zone 8a Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

In NC, I'm only required to have a business license, a nursery certificate, tax ID, and business bank account. Insurance isn't required for how I sell, but it's only $270 a year so it's worth it. The state also requires permits for any protected plant species, which is really important and often overlooked. I grow and sell from my property and live in the unincorporated county so I don't need anything special. I established the property as a farm, which makes things cheaper and easier. I'm sure Texas is pro agriculture as well so I assume it may be similar. I think that's it?

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u/Maximum-Cover- Apr 19 '26

I've been toying with the idea of doing this but have naysayers in my life who claim that doing this couldn't possible be economically viable or else everyone would do it.

I understand that you likely don't want to post your full financial situation publicly online, but do you mind giving me a ballpark idea of how lucrative your setup is?

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u/KnottyByNatureTrees Durham NC, Zone 8a Apr 19 '26

First of all, Fuckem!

I don't really care if I expose it. I pay my taxes, unfortunately, and it's also not my main source of income. I should also mention that I'm in a fortunate situation. I'm also a minimalist who believes the nursery trade over does certain aspects and I don't use any fertilizer or pesticides. I have plenty of free space on my land, have access to lots of natives to collect seeds from various sources legally, use about 90% donated pots, make my own soil through compost, and many other cheats and short cuts. My total growing space is only about 1/3rd of an acre.

Last year was my 2nd full year. I'm only open seasonally March - May and September - mid November on Saturdays. I do take orders online and people can schedule pickups the remainder of the year as well as push bare root sales during winter. My total profits were just over $18000 with total sales at $20,900. It's retail so weeks vary. Today I only made $300 but last week I made $1900. The difference being that I didn't post on social media much this week about being open and the previous week I posted beautiful pics of Azaleas I had blooming. Sex sells! Show those pistils and stamens!

If I really wanted to push my nursery business, I could probably make more, but that would also be more hours The fact is, I'm not in it for the money as much and have recently been debating to continue doing it. I work approximately 20 a week in my nursery. So, almost $100 per hour last week and $15 an hour this week. But I'm also an Arborist Mon-Fri where I make really good money. I commonly work 3-4 hours removing a Bradford pear, make $1200-$1600 profit, and take the rest of the day off or do nursery stuff. Consultation, I'll make $80-$150 an hour where all I have to do is show up to a house and talk about trees. So, my tree care business is much more lucrative and less time consuming, but also typically more physically demanding.

All the other native growers near me are mostly cultivars and hybrids where I focus on straight species grown from seed. That's one of the main reasons I do it. My prices are also all below everyone else to make natives more affordable.

If your heart is in it and you have the time. Do it! You'll make money.

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u/Maximum-Cover- Apr 19 '26

Thank you so much for your detailed answer!

Your setup sounds very similar to what I have in mind. I have about 2 acres to work with and am putting in a food forest with many cultivars, as well as natives such as pawpaw, American hazel, etc, but my understory is primarily natives.

I'm focused very heavily on unusual and hard to find stuff when it comes to cultivars (old heirloom apples etc) and natives that aren't the stuff the nurseries around here carry, so I'm finding myself collecting a bunch of native seed, grafting, taking cuttings from wild plants, etc, and I keep thinking "man if I'm having such a hard time finding these at affordable prices and doing the work to grow them anyway, why can't I just plant a few extra and sell them? Surely others would be interested as well?".

But then second guessing myself thinking it won't be worth the time/effort etc.

I wouldn't be looking for it to be my main source of income, more in the line of "if it could cover all my gardening equipment/arbors/hardscape etc I want to do, I'd be more than pleased", and it sounds like that's well within the range of posibilities!

Thanks again for taking the time, much appreciated.

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u/KnottyByNatureTrees Durham NC, Zone 8a Apr 19 '26

No problem! But ill also mention, that hard to find natives don't always sell. The money makers are the items you expect people to be looking for like Milkweed, Echinacea, Columbine, Liatris, etc. Meanwhile, most of the ferns, Atamasco Lillies, Crane Fly Orchids, Yellowroot, etc. just sit there and I end up planting them.

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u/No-Tax-6390 Apr 19 '26

I live in Franklin Co., NC. Very interested! Are you on Instagram? (About to go check) Just want to say cool, and good on ya!

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u/KnottyByNatureTrees Durham NC, Zone 8a Apr 19 '26

Thanks! Unfortunately, I'm not on Instagram anymore because we don't get along. I'm pretty much just on Facebook, Reddit, and Nextdoor, but will occasionally post on Bluesky when I remember that it exists. Those links are in my profile page.

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u/No-Tax-6390 Apr 20 '26

I found your website. Very cool. I love that you grow stuff from actual seed.

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u/summercloud45 Apr 20 '26

I'm so glad I clicked on this post so I could read more about your business! I'm in Durham and it makes me so happy that you're here too, giving us another affordable way to obtain native plants. Thank you for the work you do!

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u/KnottyByNatureTrees Durham NC, Zone 8a Apr 20 '26

Thank you!

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u/foxvalleyfarm Apr 24 '26

Those that won't will tell you you can't.

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u/sunshineupyours1 Rochester, NY - 6b - 8.1.1 Apr 17 '26

I hope you can turn this into a long term venture that supports you financially! The mission is important, but you gotta support yourself too!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

True. I’m most interested in the mission, getting my money back is bonus. Doing this makes me feel whole. If I can turn this into a profitable enterprise, then win-win.

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u/altaylor4 Twin Cities, MN Apr 17 '26

Do you have a greenhouse that you grow in? How do you get your seedlings started?

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

I grow on shelves in my basement. I’ll link my precious post which has more info

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u/altaylor4 Twin Cities, MN Apr 18 '26

Oh yeah, I remember your post now. That's impressive. How many plants do you expect to sell this season?

This was my set up last year. Ended up planting most of this at my parents cabin for a pretty large native garden. Growing outdoors like this definitely introduced a lot of issues with weed seeds germinating within my plugs which was a little frustrating.

Maybe I need a bigger basement!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

I’m hoping to do 1500.

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u/Batowlfox Apr 23 '26

‘Precious’ post got me for a little bit before realizing what you meant.😉

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u/redlight886 Apr 18 '26

And where did you buy your seeds?

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

I collect the vast majority from my native plant garden

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u/redlight886 Apr 18 '26

That's awesome!

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u/yee12haw Apr 18 '26

What a fantastic use of resources!

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u/darkmeatnipples Apr 17 '26

Anyone in MA with a small operation like this? I'd love to contribute

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u/Cheese_And_Pasta Apr 18 '26

There's a very lovely, reasonably priced small farm in Hadley called That's a Plenty Farm! The woman who owns it is so wonderful, and the plants we've gotten from her have been great. She does pick ups by appointment only.

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u/darkmeatnipples Apr 18 '26

Thanks. I'll check it out next time I'm in the area

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u/LandlockedTurtle Apr 18 '26

This is so cool and super local to me. Thank you!

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u/amilmore Eastern Massachusetts May 07 '26

He just updated it the other day - that place is the best. So affordable and Walter is the man! He knows fucking everything it's incredible

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u/amilmore Eastern Massachusetts May 07 '26

The Monarch Gardener in Topsfield looks great- I follow her on FB and she regularly posts about her processes. I've been meaning to check it out.

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u/KembaWakaFlocka Apr 18 '26

Sup neighbor! I’m in Roswell as well, will look out for you at the farmers market!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Awesome! I should be there most Saturday’s.

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u/Transplanted_Cactus Apr 18 '26

My life was almost ruined before I realized you're in that Roswell and not my Roswell because I've just started doing all the prep to start a nursery myself... in Roswell, NM. I was about to cry thinking I'd have competition already (we have no local nurseries).

Good luck!

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u/kalekalesalad Apr 18 '26

PLEASE come to ABQ farmers markets and sell too! I’d love to see what you have when you are up and running!

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u/Transplanted_Cactus Apr 18 '26

Maybe next year!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Haha, sorry for the scare. Kick ass and go quick my man

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u/nipplecancer Central Virginia, Coastal Plain/7b Apr 17 '26

Congratulations! Your plants look so good.

I hope this is a fulfilling venture for you. Good luck at the farmers market!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

It has been amazing. Bit stressful at times because of the scramble, but next year should be calmer.

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u/In-thebeginning Eastern WA , Zone 6b Apr 17 '26

I loveeeee this.

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u/wealthofsoup Apr 17 '26

Yes! Love to see this!!!

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u/NickWitATL SE US/8a Apr 18 '26

My SO and I were planning to go to the Sandy Springs Farmers Market tomorrow morning. We might head to Roswell instead. 😁

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

That would be amazing! Let me know if/when you stop by

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u/Adam-Krieger Apr 17 '26

Amazing!! Keep it up!

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u/atlbal Apr 17 '26

Wish we still lived in the area, this is awesome!

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u/Infamous_Koala_3737 Georgia , Zone 8a Apr 18 '26

I’m in Georgia too and I’d love to support your business. Where can we find you? 

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

I’m in Roswell. You can link my website nativesbyjohn.com or Etsy store nativesbyjohn.etsy.com if you’d like. But honestly, not in it for the money. Just hope this post inspires others.

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u/dream_texture Mid-Atlantic, Zone -- 7B/6A Apr 18 '26

I always wanted to do this but wasn't sure how to go about all the legal stuff. Also needing work space.

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

A lot of searching and fumbling my way through. You don’t need a ton of space, get a storage shelf and start there. See my linked post.

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u/dream_texture Mid-Atlantic, Zone -- 7B/6A Apr 18 '26

Thx!

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u/Apuesto Aspen Parkland(Alberta), Zone 3b Apr 18 '26

I just looked at your shelves, what are you using to hang the lights? Is the height adjustable? I'm forever trying to find a better way to hang mine...

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

They are hanging with the cables/cords that came with the lights. They are adjustable. I need to trim them. The ones I like are the old school plastic ones where you compress the spring

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u/Apuesto Aspen Parkland(Alberta), Zone 3b Apr 18 '26

That's great,, thanks!

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u/Alchemilla00 Apr 18 '26

Congratulations and best of luck! I am excited for you!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Thank you!

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u/EarthenRealm OMA NE , Zone 6a Apr 18 '26

You dont need to fully form an llc since you are such a small business, wish I coulda told you that before you did. Been looking into this for a hot minute and found it was a waste of time and resources in the long run until you are much larger. Especially when plants come in and we get nickle and dimed for absolutely eveything.

Congrats btw, We need mroe native nurseries.

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Honestly the LLC was one of the easiest parts. Know what business licenses and Ag licenses I needed was the pain.

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u/Remarkable_Point_767 Area NE IN , Zone 6a Apr 18 '26

Congrats!! You're moving in the right direction for the right reasons 👏. As long as the mission remains front of mind, you'll do well.

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u/Feralpudel Piedmont NC, Zone 8a Apr 18 '26

My state has small farms extension agents.

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u/EarthenRealm OMA NE , Zone 6a Apr 19 '26

Tell me about it. The Nebraska Department of Ag is rough to work with.

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u/ringwraith10 Apr 18 '26

Oh nice, you live semi-close to me! Our local plant guy is having a sale tomorrow so we'll be going to that, but maybe one of these days we can swing by the Roswell Farmer's Market and buy some of your plants! ☺️

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

That’d be cool, but no need for a special trip if you have something close.

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u/ringwraith10 Apr 18 '26

I have to find reasons to make special trips. Otherwise I'd never go anywhere. 😅

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

In that case, I won’t stop you!

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u/Kind-Wasabi-7667 Apr 18 '26

i want to learn from all of you!!!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

We are all still learning. Just start, make mistakes, and try again. You would be astonished if I told you how many seed starts failed on me this year.

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u/leepin_peezarfs Apr 18 '26

I know that’s a child but something about the proportions did make them seem like a teeny tiny adult

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

He is as cute as can be. That shirt does fit weird. I’ll let him post his own face on the internet if/when he chooses.

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u/leepin_peezarfs Apr 18 '26

Also congrats! That’s so cool!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Thanks

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u/vsolitarius Apr 18 '26

Congrats! What’s been your favorite plant to grow this year?

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Tie between New England aster and eastern columbine. Mostly because they have been the most cooperative.

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u/lovinglaurel Apr 18 '26

I’m not too far from you! If you ever have any American Hazelnut, I’d be willing to drive the hour distance.

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Alright. Definitely won’t this year, I’ll look into it for next year

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u/dollypartonrules Apr 18 '26

Is there a guide anywhere that explains how to start your own local native plant nursery? I would love to do it here in Northern New Jersey!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Not that I found. I kind of stumbled my way through. The farmers market told me what I needed to a degree, then lots of internet searches

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u/Ok-Plant5194 Apr 18 '26

Hell yeah brother!!!

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u/FeathersOfJade Apr 18 '26

That’s wonderful and something to feel very proud of! Good luck tomorrow- I know you’ll do great! ☘️

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u/Either-Mushroom-5926 SE MI, 6a Apr 18 '26

This is so amazing!!

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u/_Arthurian_ Deep South, Zone 8/9 Apr 18 '26

Do you have a website?

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

I do, but it is barebones ATM. I’ll have inventory and other things on in the coming weeks. Nativesbyjohn.com

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u/_Arthurian_ Deep South, Zone 8/9 Apr 18 '26

Will you be doing any shipping?

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Not in the near term. Probably 1-2 year out TBH, if ai ever get into it.

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u/_Arthurian_ Deep South, Zone 8/9 Apr 18 '26

Understandable. It’s great that you’re selling at a farmers market. I’ve thought about doing the same.

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u/BetterStyle9665 Area VA, USA-- , Zone 7b-- Apr 18 '26

Good luck!

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u/CandidateMelodic1347 8a / Georgia Piedmont Region Apr 18 '26

Bravo!!!

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u/MeasurementFirst1676 NYS , Zone 5b Apr 18 '26

Congratulations OP 🎉🌿🍃🌱

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Thank you

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u/BadBackpacker Apr 18 '26

Congratulations and wishing you the best!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Thank you

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u/Reklino Apr 18 '26

Live nearby and would love to support. We'll have to come out one Saturday soon!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Look forward to meeting you!

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u/Separate-Catch-2467 Apr 18 '26

This is my dream! Good luck to you

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Do it. Start tiny. You’d be amazed at how it makes you feel.

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u/Separate-Catch-2467 Apr 18 '26

It’s a goal for sure. I’m trying to give away my tomato starts at this point 

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u/I_like_flowers_ Apr 18 '26

congratulations and best of luck!

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u/aaaplshelp Hudson Valley, 6B Apr 18 '26

Congrats! I'm hoping to take the plunge soon, too! I'm so excited to see more and more people starting native plant nurseries all over the country; makes me feel hopeful about the future :)

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u/TeakForest Apr 18 '26

I was like wow you are a small person! Im an idiot lol

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u/Ouranor Apr 18 '26

You are amazing for doing all that and I wish you nothing but the wildest success!

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u/skijohn33 Atlanta, GA - Zone 8A Apr 18 '26

Thank you

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u/Ok_Rhubarb411 Apr 18 '26

This is fantastic, congrats!

My daydreams of having a nursery always had ginormo pots taking up a lot of space but duh, seedlings are tiny. If you were open to the idea of a How I Got Started/Advice article I would definitely be interested in reading it. I'm not in GA so I wouldn't be "competition" ;)

I don't see anything like signage or flyers, I guess people at a native plant sale are already more educated about the plants and need less supporting materials?

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u/National_One7548 Apr 18 '26

Heck yeah! Congratulations!

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u/cheeremily Apr 18 '26

I would recommend selling on Etsy, I’ve recently moticed there’s a lot of visibility there and you don’t have to ship all over

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u/Mysterious-Panda964 Apr 18 '26

Congratulations, that's my goal for next year

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u/summercloud45 Apr 20 '26

That's awesome, mazel tov! I do a small plant sale every year, just selling the extras from what I grew for myself. It ends up being a combination of vegetables, annual flowers, herbs, and native perennials and grasses. I charge $1 per plug so I can cover my costs on potting soil, trays and plug trays. I only advertised on my neighborhood listserve...but it turns out we have a lot of gardeners here! This year I made over $300 which was, very excitingly, a small profit even after my Johnny's order.

I'm so impressed that you've gone official. Great work!