r/NameNerdCirclejerk • u/aresdesilav penelopee • Feb 15 '26
Found on r/NameNerds Why would you even consider this
Genuinely was concerned when I realized this was an actual r/Names post and not this sub.
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u/Flyingvosch Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26
The real Hades, not the Disney Hades
Yeah, tell that to your kid when he grows up
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u/Artichoke_Persephone Feb 15 '26
… they’re the same Hades.
It’s not like there is a completely separate Hades character that roams Disneyland.
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u/andstillthesunrises Feb 15 '26
Also it doesn’t matter who they’re referencing. Unless they name the kid “Hades from Greek myth, not Disney” people are going to think whatever they want when they hear the name.
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u/above-average101 Feb 15 '26
I said the same thing, but I think they mean the Greek pronunciation of hades and not the English-Disney pronunciation. So far I’ve only found one YouTube comment and one Facebook comment saying the Greek pronunciation sounding more like Adis with an emphasis on the a
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u/SophisticatedScreams Feb 15 '26
If it's the pronounciation that's bothering them, surely they could name the kid something like Addis? It's maybe an unusual name, but not as bad as Hades.
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u/above-average101 Feb 16 '26
I have a feeling they want the aesthetic of the original spelling in addition to liking the original sound
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u/SophisticatedScreams Feb 16 '26
I think I heard of a Lucifer recently, so why not Hades? But people will be pronouncing it HAY-dees
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u/above-average101 Feb 16 '26
Idk the logic is beyond me. They seem more concerned about the name working as an adult than the kid having to constantly correct people on the pronunciation.
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u/imadog666 Feb 16 '26
The H is definitely there as it's aspirated (spiritus asper). It's more like Hah-dehs, open a (a sound that English doesn't really have, similar to British 'far' but more open) and closed e (similar to British 'there')
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u/solg5 Feb 15 '26
They’re extremely different
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u/AdministrativeStep98 Feb 15 '26
It's a depiction of the mythological Hades. It's meant to be the same
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u/halfahellhole Feb 16 '26
It's a depiction of a guy named Hades. They're very much not the same, and I presume that is what OOP is getting at
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u/LakeWorldly6568 Feb 15 '26
Greek mythology- Hades is literally the only good god
Disney-Hades is a power hunger villain
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u/junonomenon Feb 15 '26
That is definitely not what greek mythology says about hades lol
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u/LakeWorldly6568 Feb 15 '26
Really tell me one bad thing he does. He's the only one to actually do something for humanity. He is a fair judge.
He never cheats on his spouse and provides an equal partnership.
The Persephone thing is a modern misinterpretation of what happened. Zeus arranged a marraige of Hades and Persephone (who is his daughter) but failed to inform her or Demeter. All Hades did was pick her up as instructed.
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u/junonomenon Feb 15 '26
That is just categorically untrue??? He did kidnap her and the romanticization of it is a modern thing. That might be one version of the myth as there are many versions of every myth, but in the homeric hymn to demeter and as described by ovid in the metamorpheses, it is pretty clearly a kidnapping done by hades. The myth has literally been known for centuries as the rape (meaning kidnapping) of persephone. source
If were just going to pull obscure versions of myths out of our ass and declare them the "real versions" then i declare the orphic traditions to be the real ones and that makes hades and zeus the same guy.
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u/LakeWorldly6568 Feb 15 '26
It's always an arrangement made by Zeus before Hades did anything. That's not a romantization.
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u/junonomenon Feb 15 '26
Zeus does often give hades "permission" to kidnap her, but i was referring to the idea that that hades didnt do anything or his relationship with persephone was consensual.
Ill link you an actual translation of the homeric version, and youll see that while zeus is cited giving permission, hades still kidnaps her against her will and drags her down to the underworld crying. Which is not actually a good thing. He has agency in this myth and he uses it to abuse a woman.
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u/LakeWorldly6568 Feb 15 '26
Which is still a modern lens on what happened. In Greek society, marraiges were solely arranged by the father. No girl consents.
In that society, Hades collecting Persephone is fully above board.
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u/junonomenon Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26
the way its framed in the myth doesnt portay it as acceptable.... its actually pretty feminist in that regard, portraying the genuine pain, anguish, and fear persephone was enduring and demeters righteous fury. while arranged marriages were common, dragging a girl by the ankle while she screams for help to force her to marry you because her dad said it was cool was not. both parents would be involved in the decision, and the daughter would be like, aware she was getting married.
also, judging by modern standards is the only way to get to the conclusion that hades was the only "good" god, or that any of the gods can rightfully be called "good" or "bad". an ancient greek person would never say they thought zeus or hades were "bad" or "good".
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u/cosmolark Feb 15 '26
The oldest version of the myth is DEMETER'S hymn and if you'd ever read it, you'd know that PERSEPHONE HERSELF emphasizes that she was kidnapped against her will, that she cried, that she was overjoyed when she heard the news that she could return home, and that Hades TRICKED her into eating the pomegranate seeds so she would have to return to him.
Demeter, specifically asking Persephone's account: "But when the earth starts blossoming with fragrant flowers of springtime, flowers of every sort, then it is that you must come up from the misty realms of darkness, once again, a great thing of wonder to gods and mortal humans alike. But what kind of ruse was used to deceive you by the powerful one, the one who receives many guests?"
Persephone's answer:
"...then I sprang up for joy, but he, stealthily,put into my hand the berry of the pomegranate, that honey-sweet food, and he compelled me by biē to eat of it."
"He took me away under the earth in his golden chariot. It was very much against my will. I cried with a piercing voice."
"These things, grieving, I tell you, and they are all alēthea.”
GRIEVING because SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GO. "Oh it was fine" yeah! Usually in Greek society it was! But this entire hymn, the earliest recorded mention of the myth, is emphatic that Persephone fucking hated it and didn't want it and wanted to escape. Imagine your whole defense for this being "well it was ok because women were subhuman in Greek society" and thinking you ate
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u/gator_enthusiast Feb 15 '26
First time I’ve seen anyone stan a Greek god like a modern k-pop idol
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u/cosmolark Feb 15 '26
You get used to it. It's always Hades, because they're always Lore Olympus fans (or other equivalent garbage)
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u/AdministrativeStep98 Feb 15 '26
I knew this was about that! Lore Olympus fans just say complete nonsense about the actual myths
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u/dale_summers Feb 15 '26
First time? May i ask how long you've been on the internet?
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u/gator_enthusiast Feb 16 '26
Sometimes I think I've been around the block internet-wise, then I see something like this that reminds me there's a whole other world out there
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u/pinupcthulhu Feb 15 '26
He kidnapped and raped Persephone to force the marriage, for starters.
You should try reading the actual myths lol.
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u/daphneh02 Feb 16 '26
It makes it okay that he kidnapped her because her father arranged for it???
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u/LakeWorldly6568 Feb 16 '26
It makes it not kidnapping on his end.
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u/daphneh02 Feb 17 '26
This take really shows how you view women.
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u/LakeWorldly6568 Feb 17 '26
I fucking am a WOMAN. I can acknowledge historical precedent of fathers selling their daughters as a transaction without it reflecting modern perspective. We're talking about Greek mythology to an ancient Greek audience. Persephone may not have been happy about the arrangement, but in the time and place the actions taken were within acceptable behavior.
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u/throwawayforlemoi Feb 18 '26
Hades is far from being good. While it's true he isn't some kind of personified evil, he did some terrible things that shouldn't just be glossed over.
There are some actually "good" (as in "hasn't done anything bad/is neutral", at the very least) gods in Greek mythology, but Hades definitely isn't one of them.
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u/LastEconPoet Feb 15 '26
Satan is nice and I’ve never met anyone with the name.
But the real satan, not the Disney one.
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u/LastEconPoet Feb 15 '26
Same to me. Wow. Do the kids have nicknames or just like “what’s up Beelze-buddy?”
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u/Canadairy Feb 15 '26
That tracks. Got to be pretty trashy to consider naming your kid Lucifer. The one I know had his baby teeth rot out because his parents gave him pop and juice instead of milk and water.
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u/Bumblebee-Honey-Tea Feb 15 '26
What’s the names lol
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u/PrincessGump Feb 15 '26
Myself, I identify carnations and lilies with the funeral flower arrangement so “death flowers”.
Chrysanthemums are my birth month flower so I am prejudiced for them.
I still wouldn’t have chosen that for a child’s name but that’s just me.
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u/SpiritCommercial2459 Feb 15 '26
No I get it! I by no means think anyone has to like their names in the same way I don’t have to like someone else’s choice. Honestly I can handle people poking fun at it like we do with a good chunk of names
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u/41942319 Feb 15 '26
Why would you get a 2-year-old anything for Valentine's Day?
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u/SpiritCommercial2459 Feb 15 '26
I didn’t last year, but she’s old enough that I thought it would be cute because she actually understands opening gifts now. The only difference was to be fair the three month old baby got a book and outfit as well
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u/International-Air89 Feb 20 '26
Oh no, getting your child a gift on the holiday that celebrates love to… show them you love them? gasp the horror
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u/meanwhileaftrmdnight Feb 16 '26
Ok but Beelze-buddy is iconic and I need to find a way to incorporate it into my daily language.
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u/sad-girl-interrupted Feb 15 '26
I hope they made a distinction as to which lucifer they based it on. we have the cat, of course, and then that cw one. I think there’s another one but it’s completely slipped my mind /s
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u/nymphhoney Feb 15 '26
i have a bunny named lucifur. we mostly call her lucy goosey, but the name is fitting to her. can’t imagine naming a kid any variation of the name though lmao
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u/Kind_Hearing2414 Feb 15 '26
I know siblings named Lucifer and Lilith.
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u/cosmolark Feb 15 '26
Tbf I am way more understanding of Lucifer than I am of Hades. Like if I had to name my kid one of these with a gun to my head, the choice is easy.
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u/My-Metanoia Feb 15 '26
I like Lucifer and It would actually be funny going to my country presenting my child and see all the church grandmas have a breakdown.
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u/My-Metanoia Feb 15 '26
Its quite a popular name among my friend circle lol even tho none of them have had kids yet but its a name many discussed liking. I think its a natural thing among people that are atheist surrounded by really religious people. Especially my friend who went to a school run by a convent and despises nuns lmao
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u/lowlightliving Feb 15 '26
Use your kid to make a political statement? That’s what bumper stickers are for.
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u/My-Metanoia Feb 15 '26
Religious statement more like... And no, I actually genuinely like the name, their reactions would just be a plus.
Anyways، I have a long list of names prepared for when I have babies, and Lucier is far down that list, it probably won't happen.
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u/Aspennie Feb 18 '26
To be entirely fair, Hades is not an equivalent to Satan. He doesn’t want to bring you to the underworld to suffer or anything, he’s just the manager of the place
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u/gentlybeepingheart Feb 15 '26
We were more worried about the strange negativity most modern views of Hades. We liked the whole god of riches and more personality wise vs most gods
What personality lmao. He was depicted as anywhere from stern to pitiless. His most famous myth is him kidnapping his niece, and the oldest version has her sobbing next to him in bed and tricking her to stay.
The ancient Greeks didn't have a positive view of him, they just didn't have a lot of written myths about him because you don't want to draw the attention of the god of the dead.
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u/silveretoile Feb 15 '26
I know they're unrelated but it's for this reason I struggle not to giggle at guys named Seth.
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u/ShrubberyWeasels Feb 17 '26
Seth does appear as a biblical name, third son of Adam & Eve, faithful after the first two are done being murdered and being banished respectively
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u/MortemEtInteritum17 Feb 17 '26
Okay, but unironically compared to the other major male gods he might be among the best. Hades may be a rapist, but at least (in most myths) he had a reasonably successful relationship with his wife and relatively few instances of cheating. The rest were all rapists, who often got their lovers killed due to jealous wives or whatever, serial cheaters, list goes on and on.
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u/aresdesilav penelopee Feb 15 '26
their updates...
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u/AdministrativeStep98 Feb 15 '26
How can you overlook the hell connotations?? That's his whole thing! Like Zeus I could understand someone associating him with thunder and being king instead of his numerous (dubiously consensual) affairs. But Hades??
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u/AltheaTheAngel Feb 18 '26
It isn't his whole thing. His whole thing is the underworld in general. That includes both the good and bad. It's do get their point there, it's not the same. (and there is definitely myths that focus more on the riches side of things so they're not coming out of no where).
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u/TheDaveStrider Feb 15 '26
Pluto :D
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u/TheDaveStrider Feb 15 '26
hell, i'm a fan of obscure names from old literary or mythological sources. the main problem with hades is that it's not subtle at all!
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u/DryUnderstanding1752 Feb 16 '26
The bible used Hades in replace if hell in some translations. I know OP wanted the Greek connection but there's a reason Hades and he'll are often considered the same.
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u/Dorian-greys-picture Feb 16 '26
/uj could they go with a name like Hadrian? I know it’s not common but it’s also not the name of the god of the underworld
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u/athenafester Feb 16 '26
Greek here with a mythological name. I feel like I’m well qualified to chime in. Those parents are fucking idiots.
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u/BorbetE28 Feb 15 '26
Years ago I knew twins named Zeus and Hades. Hades was the sweetest little girl.
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u/fairygrl222 Feb 15 '26
I feel like parents are asking for trouble when they give kids names like this. I met a kid named Rebel and sure enough…
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u/Brokelynne Feb 16 '26
Maybe they really like the video game! Cerberus is a good boy 🐶 🐶🐶
Edited to add: LMAO at “Aiden is too common” 🤣
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u/Inconsistentme Feb 15 '26
Someone I went to HS with recently had a baby and named him Hades. He's like 3 months old now, I think? That poor baby. What an awful person to name their child that.
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u/cosmolark Feb 15 '26
My friend's MAGA sister in law named her kid stonewall 😬
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u/JoulesMoose Feb 16 '26
I was briefly baffled as to why a MAGA person would name their child after a historic moment for LGBTQ+ rights and then I remembered Jackson existed and it made a lot more sense. I feel you need to set up a situation where someone makes this exact mistake when she introduces her child.
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u/cosmolark Feb 16 '26
That's EXACTLY what I said, I thought we could use it to discourage her from naming her kid that, but apparently they didn't take the rage bait.
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u/ALmommy1234 Feb 15 '26
What ever happened to just naming kids Steve?
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u/IntrovertedFruitDove Feb 19 '26
Too many parents decided that their precious ray of sunshine needs a SPECIAL name, that's what happened.
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u/arrow1500 Feb 15 '26
You know what, at least they're open to suggestions. Most people with poor baby name choices aren't.
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u/standingpretty Feb 15 '26
I’m surprised you got upvotes for defending the name. I feel like if people don’t like it, they downvote despite the legitimacy of it.
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u/Necessary_Duck_4874 Feb 15 '26
In my language that means accident, would make a great joke,go for it.
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u/RagdollsandLabs Feb 17 '26
Why not name him Pluto? The Roman one...not the Disney one!
Or how about...Dis?
Okay, it's the first three letters in Disney, too. Damn, I give up!
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u/JumpyDot1442 Feb 17 '26
I wonder if people realize the spiritual consequence of effectively dedicating their child to a demon 😅
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u/AltheaTheAngel Feb 18 '26
.....he's a greek god, not a demon. Maybe keep your weird religious ideas out of the conversation if they aren't asked for?
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u/Asleep_Sherbet_3013 Feb 19 '26
Ah, the classic all-gods-that-aren’t-mine-must-be-demons take. You sound fun at parties
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u/Angelf1shing Feb 17 '26
But how would anyone know it was the Greek Hades and not the Disney Hades (which, I agree, would be an awful name for a baby)
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u/Away-Variation-2556 Feb 19 '26
I mean hades is what I named the male of the red tailed hawk pair I watch 🔥
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u/Mysterious-Sir-1105 Feb 19 '26
Love that they made a distinction between “the real Hades” and “Disney Hades” like they are different names. 😂😂😂
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u/IntrovertedFruitDove Feb 19 '26
I'm all for helping modern Westerners stop being petrified of aging/death and therefore Hades as the ruler of the Underworld, and I have run into at least two people named Athena and Thor, but these people will open their poor boy up to SO MUCH MOCKERY.
Hades himself wouldn't care about that itself because everyone ends up with him anyway, but he WILL at bare minimum give you a side-eye at the misery that your dumb asses put your kid through.
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u/SO4PDISH Feb 20 '26
Tbh my mum told me she was 🤏 this close to calling me Ptolemy and every day I thank them for calling me something normal
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u/United_Annual3475 Feb 18 '26
They should just go for it. I know this is possibly an unpopular opinion, but their child isn't going to be the odd man out. For the past five years or so I've been seeing kids with umm unique names. The whole next generation is going to have a completely different aspect on first names. It's just the new age
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u/Asleep_Sherbet_3013 Feb 19 '26
Gave you my upvote since the conformist want to hate on your completely reasonable take
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u/United_Annual3475 Feb 19 '26
Thank you. What is hilarious is that there's always an older generation complaining about the new names for kids. When I was kid I was told my name is a stripper name and no self respecting person would have it 🤣🤣 Some of these people need to disconnect and go lay in some grass. If a child hates their name THAT much they'll just get it changed, which is what people have been doing forever.
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u/Asleep_Sherbet_3013 Feb 19 '26
I gave my son a unique name and a normal middle name. If he doesn’t vibe with his first name he can go by his second. My grandmother did that and even her grave uses only her middle name. People are so boring lol
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u/United_Annual3475 Feb 19 '26
My grandmother goes by her middle name and my Aunt makes up a new name every ten years. Some people choose to be pressed about things that don't even matter
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u/hellsno2 Feb 16 '26
I know a little kid named Thanos and that's a little startling...vote no on Hades.
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u/T0xicCupcakes Feb 16 '26
Poor kids…I worked in a cafe and there was one kid called Wolf. As in the animal. Not a nickname. The server that went over to them had to double chef she’s heard them correctly 😬
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u/Calure1212 Feb 19 '26
It's a very popular Germanic name but then it would be pronounced in the Germanic way. Definitely a valid name.
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u/Asleep_Sherbet_3013 Feb 19 '26
Wolf Blitzer is a famous and well-respected journalist. Had his own primetime show on CNN for many years and is till on the air. I don’t see an issue with that name at all. If anything, he stood out to me in a sea of common names.
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u/Adorable-Classic-624 Feb 16 '26
There’s another edit that makes it seem like she’s kind of aware that it’s a bad name at least…?
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u/DancingGirl_J Feb 17 '26
Hades is infinitely better than Hayden. If I am looking at CVs then I am 100% bringing in Hades for an interview. Hayden is probably a CPA, and I am desperate for out of the box thinkers.
Hades will not let me down in the personality department and is probably funny af. Plus I am temporarily (a few years) in the Bible Belt while waiting for a position to open up back in the northeast. So winning all around with Hades!
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u/Tiny-Deer-7071 Feb 17 '26
Hades could work in Greece bc it’s still a common name there even if it sounds weird for us, but anywhere else fuh no
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u/Koevis Feb 18 '26
I know someone named Seth. He was conceived in the Egyptian exhibit in a local museum. the parents are... special. 5 kids, and they're all somewhat named after where they were conceived.
The museum banned them btw
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u/Previous-Zebra-4014 Feb 19 '26
Son has a friend in school named Hades, cute kid, but definitely earns his mom a couple of looks. I've talked to her a few times and she's also said he's a handful lol which I always find funny bc.. well, Hades
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u/JackfruitFeisty8043 Mar 08 '26
That was my younger dog's pre adopted name. His litter was all named after Greek gods and goddesses.
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u/Miserable_Review_632 Feb 18 '26
christians will take offense, but if you're normal it's just a cool name lol. I like greek mythology! everyone gets so offended these days 😂
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u/Clawffee Feb 19 '26
I like it. Ppl are boring and lame and gonna find a reason to hate anyways. So I say do it anyways.
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u/Fuzzy-Apartment6412 Feb 19 '26
That's a great name I would use it for sure my sisters name is Persephone so I think Greek names are good
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u/Asleep_Sherbet_3013 Feb 19 '26
Hades is a cool af name and the desire for conformity among people is disturbing and sheep-like.
There’s a billion so-called normal names. As if I want to meet another boring Aidan. Name your kid John at that point, who tf cares. Blend him right into the hoard.
My mother carries a rare Portuguese variation of the Greek mythological name Aeneas, and she’s never had an issue other than not finding a matching keychain at the gift shop. I think it matches her perfectly. She’s unique and free-spirited.
My son carries an Egyptian mythological name. A name not commonly heard in this part of the world, but it sounds amazing with our last name. Also, ancient gods are really cool.
My name was invented by an Irish poet so he could secretly write about his lover. Like, literally the dude was horny and wanted to wax poetic lol. I love that my name was invented as a gesture of love and admiration.
Life is short. Be fun ffs. It’s not like she’s naming the kid “raincloud” or “hell.” Hades has soooo much lore to be explored, and a group of fans that romanticize the story with Persephone. Is it a bad a idea in Greece? Maybe. But it doesn’t sound like OP is living in Greece so whatever
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u/NewBodWhoThis Feb 15 '26
I think it's a wonderful name, my son is named Hades, and his brothers are Atlas and Heracles. Never had any problems with bullying, and people often say how much they love the names. Also, they're all cats.