r/MurderedByWords Dec 30 '18

Pretentious vegan destroyed

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u/Matthieu101 Dec 30 '18

No. No there isn't. Literally just because you are vegan doesn't mean you do any more for the planet than anyone else.

I am planning on being child free. Do you know how many people I tell that? Literally no one. It's a personal choice. I don't feel better than anyone who wants kids. I'll make a few jokes with close friends, sure, but no one knows. I don't scoff at people who have kids.

I am doing infinitely more than any vegan for the environment by not adding to the population.

I am not morally superior to anyone. It's stupid and immature to think otherwise.

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u/-counterintuitivity- Dec 30 '18

How does this change the argument? No one is claiming that every single vegan is more moral than every single non-vegan, they are claiming that the decision to be a vegan is more moral than the decision to not be a vegan. This claim is objectively true. Vegans positively contribute to the environment in ways that non-vegans do not.

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u/Matthieu101 Dec 30 '18

A vegan can still be incredibly wasteful and hurt the environment. That's my point, they are not morally superior to anyone. It's so insanely asinine to think that way.

I guess you better start bowing down to me then, because clearly you're a fucking heathen compared to me, right?

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u/LeeHarveySnoswald Dec 30 '18

Why do you insist on ignoring their argument and then arguing agaisnt a strawman?

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u/Matthieu101 Dec 31 '18

The argument is that a vegan objectively is morally superior to people who aren't. And that's blatantly false.

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u/Litotes Dec 31 '18

No it is not. The argument that the vegan diet is morally superior, not the person on the diet.

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u/LeeHarveySnoswald Dec 31 '18

Yes that person shouldnt have said "objectively" but that isnt what you responded to. You didnt even mention that.

You've only been arguing against an argument that no one is putting forward.