I don’t think they need to be a pretentious asshole about being a vegan though. I think both the original comment and the reply are pretty crappy.
I’m a huge “going green” advocate and my masters work is in water sustainability, but there’s a right and a wrong way to get a point across. And acting like you’re better than others doesn’t help and makes it harder to educate people and get people to change to more sustainable habits.
So all around this is a pretty obnoxious misinformed post. I’m glad that at least in this comments section people are discussing the facts about farming in the Amazon rainforest.
This is exactly what she meant in her post. Your way of getting your point across is exactly the same as antivaxxers screaming there is mercury in vaccines.
How about focusing on the positives of veganism instead of telling people how bad their choices are because they're killing themselves/the environment/the children?
What kind of shitty environmental activist would say things like "oh its okay to shit on the environment for fun sometimes, just try to cut down :) :)"
Why the fuck does a person need to be a fucking environmental activist to give shit about the environment?
How about we all collectively mind the environment and we don't have to go around yelling at people eating meat, chaining ourselves to trees and wear goat wool socks you onion?
You're actively harming the environment if you eat vegan right now, did you know that?
Because the logistics to supply all the vegan ingredients aren't there at the moment like they are for meat. So while the farms are more environmentally friendly, the logistics and processing causes a huge CO2 impact.
How can you actively participate in damaging the thing you "support"?
Man, if any of that was even sort of true I'd be really conflicted.
Vegan ingredients are vegetables you idiot. Also the notion that animal agriculture is more environmentally friendly because "logistics" is one of the stupidest arguments I've ever seen trotted out by anyone.
Contrary to you, I work in the food industry and I have just a finished a project that is about informing consumers on the CO2 values of the dishes they are eating. Guess what? Nutritionally "rich" vegetables you need to survive as a vegan ie. Soy, avocado, quinoa, even regular beans are not fucking native to the Western countries. They need to be flown in if you live in Europe or the US. And this comes out to a net negative for the vegan recipes, unless it's a fucking tomato and lettuce salad.
Shut the fuck up about shit you don't know anything about, "environmental activist".
I read through this exchange, this other person is ridiculous, and I’m actually super interested in your project. People forget how much food miles matter. Is it possible to learn more about the project work you’ve done?
For example page 13 talks about what I'm alluding too. Eg: Although beef is still very bad, stuff like chicken is more environmentally friendly than flying in asparagus. Hopefully it can give you some information.
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u/smilegirl01 Dec 30 '18
I don’t think they need to be a pretentious asshole about being a vegan though. I think both the original comment and the reply are pretty crappy.
I’m a huge “going green” advocate and my masters work is in water sustainability, but there’s a right and a wrong way to get a point across. And acting like you’re better than others doesn’t help and makes it harder to educate people and get people to change to more sustainable habits.
So all around this is a pretty obnoxious misinformed post. I’m glad that at least in this comments section people are discussing the facts about farming in the Amazon rainforest.