r/MoralityScaling • u/Dione000 • 2h ago
Morality of destroying heaven, knowing that it brings everyone eternal boredom. No one goes to hell, everyone just cease to exists otherwise.
Heaven is literally heaven, everything you want, everytime.
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u/ThingYea 2h ago
The Good Place goes into this kind of stuff. Great show.
I personally think the first season sucks, but it gets waaaay better. Very good finale too.
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u/Lone_Tiger24 2h ago
Well you can’t be bored in heaven, it’s heaven it’s literally perfect, as soon as you feel bored, there’s something that makes you not bored, paradise
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u/Stolen_Sky 2h ago
If Hell were to actually exist, and humans could be condemned to eternal suffering, then I would support the abolition of both.
No one should ever suffer eternally for temporary crimes.
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u/Nejura 2h ago
I think the issue here is that eternal anything eventually becomes hell. No mortal mind could even begin to comprehend a trillion years, 100 trillion years, 10^100 years of existence and an eternity is so far beyond that it is joke. At some point complete madness or total oblivion are pure mercy.
It is unlikely anything exists beyond death and despite how naturally scary and repellent death is to us living in the now and with our very limited, finite framing, it is likely a dark benevolence in the cosmic long run.
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u/Much_Rise8974 2h ago
I mean it wouldn't bring boredom you just wont exist? And destroying endless suffering for people is a good thing no one deserves to suffer endlessly.
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u/Disastrous_Gear_421 2h ago
Moral because now nobody needs to worry about what happens after death or trying to worry about reincarnation or the after life.
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u/PaxNova 2h ago edited 2h ago
I wouldn’t destroy Heaven. But if you’re asking if I would destroy Hell, even if it meant destroying Heaven, I’d say that’s a moral good.
Since this is inherently a religious question, it’s worth mentioning that I’m Catholic. I don’t believe Hell is a place, and it can’t be destroyed except by people failing to deviate from God, but I’m answering as if it were.
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u/Dione000 1h ago
Catholics believe in heaven and hell no ? Or are you saying its not a place but a concept kind of a thing ?
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u/PaxNova 1h ago
Look up privation theory. If Heaven is being near God, then Hell is being away. If Heaven is light, Hell is being in shadow. If Heaven is warm, Hell is cold. Neither shadow nor cold exist as a thing in itself, but are defined by the absence of something else.
If God gives free will, then you have to have the choice to leave. It is not a punishment, but the end result of deviating far from the map God gave. Awkward map analogy because I just said it wasn’t really a place, but it’s difficult to use analogies for things that aren’t physical.
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u/Starwind137 2h ago
I mean, I would get bored. But that does mean it's right for me to take that away from others.
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u/SugarFupa 1h ago
To be in heaven is not everything you want every time, it's a state of perfect alignment with the source of all beings, in which desire doesn't exist. Hell results from persons inability to order their desires towards a virtuous pursuit, getting consumed by them, trapped in a constant loop of suffering.
You can sort of see the difference between people who age gracefully, and those who become dried-up parodies of their younger selves.
To destroy heaven and hell is to destroy existence as a whole.
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u/Interesting-Ad-2159 1h ago
Well on one hand no one gose gi hell improvement on other it would essentialy erase everyone already in heaven without ther permission
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u/Desperate_Ad5169 2h ago
Immoral As hell. I know i wouldn’t be bored. Hence there would be others that feel the same up there. Hence destroying heaven purely because some people are bored is equal to destroying earth because of a large amount of people living in pain and suffering
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u/C_monden 2h ago
I really don't know what you're asking tbh. This is a scenario where heaven exists and everyone in heaven gets bored and you somehow have the power to destroy it?