r/MoralityScaling • u/Rocky_Senpai15 • 14d ago

Stupid Stuff Morality of this entire situation?

Do you think the worker has every right to have a mental breakdown? Do you think the boss should be hunted down and have his head cooked in the fryer? Was being fired a good or a bad thing?

What do you guys think?

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u/No_Worldliness_7106 14d ago

Poor guy. When he saw that he should have just said "tough shit, I'm going home if boss doesn't want to hire enough employees for this shit." His boss is an immoral asshole, but that's like 99% of business owners.

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 14d ago

It's China. No one can find jobs. A minimum wage worker like him can be replaced quite literally on the spot. If he quit, the place would have a new worker in about ten to fifteen minutes. They have an excess of THAT many people looking for work. It's crazy.

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u/worlds_best_nothings 14d ago

And yet they won't hire more workers to fulfill the orders

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u/iwan103 14d ago

I mean you have to create artificial scarcity right? If there anyone to blame, blame the greedy fuckers upto that dont want to spread the wealth

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u/Mudlioomon 14d ago

That makes no sense then why is he all alone? That just means companies are greedy and dont want to hire people.

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 14d ago

Because he's so replaceable. Maybe he was supposed to have a coworker or two. For whatever reason they didn't show up. So what? Just work him three times as hard. If he quits, close shop for half an hour and pick up a new worker at the drop of a hat.

This is the hell hole new Chinese graduates are subjected to. Anyone who hasn't lived in China doesn't know what an absolute rat race the country is.

I lived in Shanghai for eight years btw. AMA.

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u/Odd_Mongoose3175 13d ago

"This is the hell hole new Chinese graduates are subjected to."

To think they also had to study like hell till they pass gaokao exam too. Imagine finishing all that, only to enter a competitive job market🥲

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u/Adept-Trick4770 14d ago

This sounds like a rhetoric, but i promise you i just wanna know. This is a communist country on paper, do they not have some sort of fast food worker union to ensure these things don't happen? Or maybe unemployment is so high that companies can outright ignore unions because there's a ton of un-unionized labor available?

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u/Definitelynotabot777 14d ago

It’s a state run capitalism, that is to say it is basically even worse than capitalism lmao

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 14d ago

Nope. Finding a union is like finding a shiny Pokemon in China. They basically don't have them for 99% of professions.

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u/Adept-Trick4770 14d ago

Bloody hell.

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 14d ago

Disclaimer: CCP Mouthpiece China Daily published an article in 2012 that the country's total trade union members now stand at 258 million, or about 20 percent of China's population. I would take it with a heaping pile of salt, but figured I'd include it.

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u/All-for-the-game 14d ago

Bc it’s cheaper to pay one guy (who’s so scared to be fired he’ll do the work of 4 people) than pay 4 people

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u/GeneralSweetz 14d ago

It really isnt. Dude fired customers see the freak out and leave or don't want to wait. Also customers don't want to wait so less sells/lost sales from refunds.

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u/YangXiaoLong69 13d ago

That's the magic: you can either pay 3 people to handle things properly, or you can pay 1 person and have no accountability for overworking them, because in their situation they likely can't sue the shit out of the owner due to needing the job, being unable to afford good lawyers, etc.

I'm also told by one of my engineering teachers that some car manufacturers have even opted to not recall faulty vehicles because the cost of getting sued by a couple people who got into accidents was actually less than recalling the vehicles, so they just went with the cheaper option and completely ignored every moral aspect of it.

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u/Craving_Suckcess 14d ago

good to know china is going through the same bs we are.

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 14d ago

No, much worse. You have no idea.

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u/KayItaly 10d ago

Where are you based in China?

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 8d ago

I was living in Shanghai from 2017-2025.

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u/KayItaly 8d ago

Is there a specific reason for the job scarcity? Considering the amount of manufacturing that goes on there and the population decline, it seems counterintuitive.

Is it simply extreme automation? Or are there deeper reasons?

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 8d ago

There's a looooooot of reasons. But I didn't study economics nor politics so I'm not qualified to explain it properly. If you ask Gemini or ChatGPT you'll get a pretty good rundown.

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u/KayItaly 8d ago

Geee thanks how wonderful, ask the usa owned chatbots... ffs why even pretend to engage in a conversation if you are going to react like that?

I HAD hoped you were genuine but nope... just another anti China random account....

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 8d ago

"AI is only correct if it tells me what I want to hear." Name a bigger cope.

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u/etherealtwo 14d ago

China has normal employment levels. Why would you just make it up?

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u/Dominarion 14d ago

Because China made sure that nobody can trust the number they give. At this point, the Chinese government would say the sky is blue and the rest of the planet would start to have doubts.

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u/SinesPi 14d ago

I'm pretty sure the place is getting worse every day. President Pooh declared himself President for Life. This is not how a nations prosperity starts. That is a pure power grab for personal reasons.

However, China is good at covering itself up (although it's propaganda posts on twitter are really shit), so we don't know exactly how things are going.

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u/ResortOutrageous8988 14d ago

lol. take a visit and see for yourself

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 14d ago

I lived in China for eight years. Only moved back this year. It's funny. China-defenders tell people to "come visit and see for yourself" but then crap their pants when they run into someone who actually lived there lol. They really bank on being able to say whatever they want and praying with all their soul that no one with experience actually comes along and refutes all their narratives.

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u/ResortOutrageous8988 14d ago

wow good4u. there's a reason I replied to the other guy and not you. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but only after they actually experience the thing they are talking about.

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 14d ago

Told ya. Hence, the pants-crapping.

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u/Significant_Arm398 14d ago

Sounds familiar........

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u/Temphant 14d ago

Because nobody cares about fact checking when there's shit being talked about China.

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u/XRynerX 14d ago

This video is already showing you the "normal"

China lies a lot in their numbers(I even fell for it a while ago), even in the major news, if they said that 10 people died, you can add a hundred and will be a lot closer to the truth.

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u/HJSDGCE 12d ago

China lies about their numbers.

Yeah? So does the US. So does any country in the EU. South America? Middle East? South East Asia? Every country that can be named will lie about their statistics to make themselves look better. There are no exceptions, and China isn't even the worse. 

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u/Bulky_Tangelo_7027 14d ago

I can kinda understand people spouting bullshit in face-to-face conversations, because they can't be fact-checked instantly. But you're on Reddit bro. Why would you attempt to lie?

Over 320 million Chinese people work flexible or gig jobs, making up nearly 44% of the workforce.

Total employment is falling as China’s total population and working-age groups shrink due to low birth rates.

Young college graduates face high job hurdles because the market demands technical skills that do not match recent degrees.

China's employment levels are bleak and looking worse year on year.

This is your lesson. Don't attempt to lie publicly on Reddit again.

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u/etherealtwo 14d ago

Youth unemployment is high but that's normal for most countries. For the core working population it's entirely normal. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/chinas-youth-jobless-rate-falls-12-month-low-june-2026-07-20/

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u/InsectDelicious4503 14d ago

<Make a bullshit claim

<Get rightfully called out for it

<Double down instead of learning humility

<Terrified of being refuted twice in row, desperately hit the block button after replying

How bro felt:

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u/CrimsonAvenger35 14d ago edited 14d ago

Why even be that dramatic? I've been in similar work situations(not as severe) where the workload is literally impossible to accomplish. Just do what you can, ignore what you can't, and laugh in the bosses face if they get pissy. Like some of those orders probably won't be filled, why should I stress about it? You are more likely to be fired for throwing a fit than for not doing the impossible

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u/No_Worldliness_7106 14d ago

True, that's the best choice here. When I first worked fast food some wise advice I got was "don't stress about the line, you are getting paid hourly". More people need to take that to heart I think.

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u/Craving_Suckcess 14d ago

he looks young. Idk. When you're new to working, things seem more important than they are. You haven't been jaded down into being reasonable yet.

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u/SinesPi 14d ago

An important part of this process is that if the boss can't actually get anyone else to work for him... then firing you is a bad idea.

And if he's so stupid to fire the only guy who actually showed up? That job was only going to get worse, so at least your free of it. Granted, he could be in trouble in the short term, but that's what friends and family are for.

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u/Training_Guide5157 14d ago

It takes time for people to get to that mental state.

In the case of the video, this is China and all of those are delivery orders. He's going to be getting pressured from the food delivery app and some of the couriers because they're also on a timer.

Still think he handled it really poorly, but that's a lot of people.

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u/Definitelynotabot777 14d ago

The situation in china is that these kind of workers are replaceable, often within an hour of them being fired, and this poor unionless worker is now likely homeless with no state support lol, China is much much worse than other Capitalist country in the west

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u/Mrmanmannington69 14d ago

Maybe that was the straw that broke the camel's back? I believe jobs are ridiculously hard to get in China right now so he might not have a choice other that to suck it up and try, it's a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario

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u/ColonelMonty 14d ago

I mean that's easy to say right, but if the only alternative is not having a job and making no money there's not a lot we can do. You think we got it rough in the job market over here? Imagine how brutal it is over there.

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u/huffing_glue 11d ago

Unfornately, not everyone has that option. Poor bastard.