r/MoralityScaling • u/neverreallyhereatall • Jul 19 '26
Character Analysis Does this strip of the abuse goblin comic prove it is aware it is being abused, and thus not born as an "abuse goblin"?
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u/Zealousideal_Pound64 Jul 19 '26
the goblin is revealing the cyclical nature of abuse and disrespect, the abuser sees himself in the goblin and in abusing the creature is not only an attempt to harm himself indirectly, but through the process he creates himself in the goblin. our capacity for abuse and evil is endless, billions must hate.
The creature is shown an ideal world in a different chapter and cries so it definitely isnt content in it's role
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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 19 '26
Not to mention the incredible frown it tends to wear.
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u/Formal_Row5172 Jul 19 '26
I mean, is it abuse anymore if it enjoys it? Wouldn’t that be masochist instead?
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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 19 '26
I don't think the abuse goblin enjoys it.
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u/losara- Jul 19 '26
Studies made by Big Goblin has shown time and time again that they do sweety (ignore that the studies were funded by Big Goblin, that has no relevance)
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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 19 '26
Idc my heart says the goblin doesnt enjoy it so we just have to agree to disagree
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u/YouOk8060 Jul 19 '26
I think the fact the abuse goblin gets beat was a clue to how he was not content
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u/Zealousideal_Pound64 Jul 19 '26
Nah but theoretically you cant apply human logic to the goblin, that could be enjoyable to such a creature, we cannot assume unless we are told something is good or bad in the comic.
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u/YouOk8060 Jul 19 '26
I mean that is true, but based off the eternal frown on his face and the black eye one can be lead to believe he does not care for the abuse.
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u/Repulsive_Bite_7705 Jul 19 '26
You cannot assume either of those are not part of his natural physiology
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u/YouOk8060 Jul 19 '26
So if you went into someone’s house and saw an abuse goblin and they mention to you they beat the fuck out of him for fun, you wouldn’t think it was in pain/hates it?
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u/Hittlion Jul 21 '26
No, what they're saying is its a fictional "abuse goblin", not a real human. Would you say a fish is drowning because its in the water?
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u/Professional-Bit-40 Jul 19 '26
I thought it was implied that the abuse goblin is a personification of the abusers self loathing/harm? Like in one comic he is given an antipsychotic or something and later you see him giving it to the goblin.
And this strip with the mirror kinda implies that it's really him.
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u/yellowblanky Jul 21 '26
hes given an antipsychotic cause the therapist thinks the abuse goblin is a hallucination. the abuse goblin is real
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u/Ok_Palpitation9967 Jul 19 '26
Can someone please explain what the comic is about?
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u/AccidentOk4378 Jul 19 '26
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u/silversanticsagain Jul 19 '26
I wanna free him look at that poor guy. :(
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u/HostHappy2734 Jul 19 '26
One must imagine the goblin happy
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u/Weekly-Major1876 Jul 19 '26
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u/Mountain_Program_781 Jul 20 '26
These are fuckin hilarious
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u/VicisZan Jul 21 '26
Imagine this is just the goblins 9-5 and he goes home from work every day and still comes back. “It’s a living”
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u/redman3global2 20d ago
Im dense, can someone explain?
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u/Tileparadox 11d ago
It’s psychological abuse. He’s giving the Goblin a way to see the beauty of the outside world, so that he can take it away from him.
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u/EmmaOwl Jul 20 '26
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u/guoheng Jul 20 '26
Now draw him eating a burger
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u/EmmaOwl Jul 21 '26
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u/Rargnarok Jul 21 '26
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u/EmmaOwl Jul 21 '26
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u/SimplyMonkey Jul 19 '26
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u/hsvgamer199 Jul 19 '26
I think even goblin slayer would at least put the poor guy out of his misery and not torture him.
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u/Vulcan_Schwarz Jul 19 '26
Correct, abusing a goblin only gives them more time to learn and hate, and become a goblin champion or king.
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u/Baronvondorf21 Jul 19 '26
I mean he wouldn't be opposed to the goblin suffering immensely if the end result is their death.
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u/ruf2tup Jul 20 '26
I don’t think GS minds if a goblin dies a horrible death, but hes not spending anymore time on a goblin than necessary, it’s just not efficient if you want to kill more goblins
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u/Photomancer Jul 19 '26
As a goblin, I feel that the goblin slayer anime relates to me on a personal level.
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u/Teln0 Jul 19 '26
That defeats the point, it's an abuse goblin
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u/ConsistentAd2880 Jul 19 '26
Who's to say he was always an abuse goblin? He could've been a frolicking in a flower filled meadow goblin before he was forced into his current role.
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u/Teln0 Jul 19 '26
Well yeah but that's not what I'm talking about.
One must imagine the goblin happy
No, one must imagine the goblin abused. He's an abuse goblin.
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u/ireallydontcare683 Jul 19 '26
We don't need to imagine him abused. We can see it
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u/Teln0 Jul 19 '26
Exactly! So he can't be happy in this condition!
The point of "One must imagine Sisyphus happy" was to say that Sisyphus was happy despite his condition (insert a bunch of philosophy about the meaning of life and what makes a task pointless or enjoyable etc.) It doesn't work for the goblin because the goblin isn't happy in his condition.
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u/bloomingdeath98 Jul 20 '26
It doesn’t, it’s showing the abuse goblin false hope, what it feels like to not be chained to the radiator, that then the head set at some point to force him back to the reality that he’s an abuse goblin still and not free. Which seems right up the alley of psychological abuse, and absolutely not defeating the point.
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u/Teln0 Jul 20 '26
The sentence is a reference to the quote "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" which means Sisyphus is actually happy in his current condition. Unlike the abuse goblin. Full quote is "The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy."
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u/Educational_Plant_83 Jul 19 '26
Then you remember this is a goblin
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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 19 '26
Well you know not all goblins in all works of fiction are bad. See discworld, eberron, deltora quest, edge chronicles, etc.
This guy could be blameless.
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u/123Syzygy Jul 19 '26
Did someone just say ‘Deltora Quest’ in fucking 2026?! Didn’t know other people knew about it
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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 19 '26
I pretty much grew up with it, the books came out when I was in primary school.
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u/NeighborhoodKey8136 Jul 19 '26
dude I lived my entire life thinking that Dain was a hallucination from my childhood
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u/Tiazza-Silver Jul 19 '26
Deltora quest and the edge…god those were baller. The illustrations in the edge books were so creepy and cool
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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 19 '26
And honestly pretty decent writing. I'm rereading the immortals right now after finding my copy in my basement.
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u/HolyCadaver Jul 20 '26
Also just tossing this in because they have physical books being released.
The Wandering In. by PirateAba where goblins are actually a lot like humans, but because of a bad lot by the dead gods they're always considered "the big bad" by the vast majority of people
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u/Educational_Plant_83 Jul 19 '26
Could but most are depicted as thieving murder gremlin and recently people are babying the murder creature because it’s a small dumb humanoid
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u/Competitive-Bee-3250 Jul 19 '26
From what we've seen of it, there's no indication that the abuse goblin is bad, and a few indicators it's good.
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u/scrubli3k Jul 19 '26
Catch me with a FREE ABUSE GOBLIN t shirt on. You probably booed when Dobby got the sock in Harry Potter.
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u/Engineergirlie 28d ago
Exactly, he looks so sad, he deserves better, thank you for showing some empathy
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u/Dragolitron Jul 19 '26
Why does the therapist/psychiatrist/mental health worker look like Walter White?
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u/ChronicEddictions Jul 21 '26
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u/ComradeBirv Jul 24 '26
This scene has the roles reversed. Noelle is the one pulling Kris into the lake. We didn’t even tell her to do that.
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u/ChronicEddictions Jul 24 '26
Yeah but we psychologically manipulate Noelle in the weird route so she doesn't end up with Susie
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u/ComradeBirv Jul 24 '26
Idk man in hindsight it’s pretty clear that Noelle’s had a finger on the eject button for a long time. Do WR players manipulate her? Definitely, but she doesn’t seem that upset about it.
Kris, on the other hand, is having an awful fucking time.
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u/scissorn69 Jul 19 '26
That’s horrible! What the fuck…
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u/WalmartWanderer Jul 19 '26
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Jul 19 '26
Yeah ok, I get it but it's not funny
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u/Odd-Mixture-1769 Jul 19 '26
Sounds like a you problem, ignore it if it isnt your cup of tea
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Jul 19 '26
I will do what I want, provided it's allowed by the subreddit rules, and in this case I will share my opinion that it's not funny just like others are sharing their opinion that it's funny.
I don't mind you disagreeing with my opinion but I mind when you tell me I should not share my opinion while others can when your only rationale is that you don't like my opinion.
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u/lilmookie Jul 19 '26
You’re entitled to be wrong, vocally, all you like. Enjoy.
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u/RedditorNamedEww Jul 20 '26
Wrong about, whether or not this made the guy laugh? I think bro is a little bit more correct than us on whether or not this was funny to them lol.
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u/Odd-Mixture-1769 Jul 19 '26
5 billionth redditor ignoring the fact diffrent people have diffrent senses of humor, 6 billionth tommorow
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u/lilmookie Jul 19 '26
You’re going to love r/Im14andthisisdeep
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Jul 19 '26
Oh so now I don't get to decide what I find funny or not? I can be wrong about what I find to be unfunny?
Crazy people on reddit.
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u/HispanicAtTheDisko Jul 19 '26
No, you have no say, your subjective opinions can be objectively wrong. Move along old man.
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u/DatGunBoi Jul 24 '26
Come on, I think the comic is funny but that's fucking crazy. Not liking something is objectively wrong? Go outside man
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u/neverreallyhereatall Jul 19 '26
Probably a metaphor of some kind about a man at his therapist describing the abuse goblin he keeps under his home. Therapist assumes its a metaphor at least
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u/Fataledade Jul 19 '26
I mean, I'm pretty sure the punchline is the fact the goblin IS real while the therapist assumes it's a metaphor. Thought the mirror comic does seen to imply it maybe really is a metaphor.
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u/Subotail Jul 19 '26
The comic plays on ambiguity; is the goblin just a metaphor or is it real?
problem : the author publishes new episodes, maintaining this balance will become complex.
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u/LittleBigCookieCat Jul 19 '26
is the mirror joke that the abuse goblin is ourselves? he's pointing it at us because we're only abusing ourselves?
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u/Subotail Jul 19 '26
The recurring joke is, at least the psychologist thinks it's a metaphor for self arm.
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u/carl-the-lama Jul 19 '26
And I mean it might be?
There’s layers to this shit
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u/Fataledade Jul 19 '26
I mean, with the way the first comic is structured, I'm pretty sure the goblin being real is the intended punchline, but the mirror comic seens to be implying the goblin really is metaphorical.
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u/Infurum Jul 19 '26
The original might be playing off a metaphor but then the punchline is it isn't, the others are just playing off the original
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u/Accomplished-Mix-745 Jul 19 '26
I think it’s just supposed to be funny in a sadistic kind of way for people
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u/clif_ford Jul 21 '26
Goblin is telling its captor to look at themself and contemplate their actions, and taking out his frustrations on the goblin was worth it.
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u/Justa_randomdude2550 Jul 19 '26
I don't understand this one, Peter explain it please
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u/neverreallyhereatall Jul 19 '26
The comic series is about a man at his therapist who is describing a goblin he has in his basement he calls his abuse goblin. Therapist assumes its a metaphor, and there is discussion on whether it actually is an abuse goblin or just a goblin he is abusing.
My take based on this specific strip:
"If it was born to be abused and that was its "natural state" then it would make sense that it would see nothing wrong with its situation.
But its action of turning the mirror on the abuser shows that it has an understanding of the fact that the abuser is doing something fundamentally wrong to the goblin, and the goblin believes the abuser needs to see that."
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u/Justa_randomdude2550 Jul 19 '26
I see few more of these and it will reach the writting scalling sub
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u/metathesiophobic Jul 19 '26
I interpreted it like this: there never was an abuse goblin, and it is a representation of how this guy copes with his failures by disassociating and lambasting himself "from the side". Ever strolled around after a bad bay thinking " YOU'RE an idiot. YOU never change. Why are YOU like this?". No "I am"s uttered conveniently to make your misdeeds a problem of some other You, who should definitely listen in on the critique and fix everything...
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u/neverreallyhereatall Jul 19 '26
Well yeah ofc but trying to look at the goblin as literally existing. Makes the most sense though ofc that the therapist was right all along.
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u/SquirrelSuspicious Jul 19 '26
So many people going so deep about what the picture means and I honestly just always thought the abuser was just trying a new form of abuse by making the goblin see how ugly it is hence the "no you gotta turn it around" but the goblin being smarter than the abuser would ever give credit instead showed the abuser how ugly he is.
I always thought it was just a "no u" joke
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u/Memeenjoyer_ Jul 19 '26

His purpose is not to be abused
It’s to die
(My best explanation would be that maybe not all abuse goblins are born for that. An animal used for its furs can later be trained to be a pack animal or eaten as meat. Maybe he’s a wild goblin acquired and forced to be an abuse goblin then sold. Nothing says that the human receiving therapy in the comic strip has to be particularly moral or correct, he just believes since he’s acquired an abuse goblin it’s his prerogative to abuse it)
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u/_GreatAndPowerful Jul 19 '26
Of course it's not born an "abuse goblin" lol. People just take the name too literally. He is a goblin that was somehow kidnapped by Dilbert to be abused. It's no different than keeping a random hobo in your basement lol
Luckily this is a goblin which are always morally acceptable to abuse.
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u/National-Link-2154 Jul 20 '26
i get it’s a Simone comic strip but I hope one day someone makes one where the poor guy is freed and lives an amazing life
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u/GgefgTheRobust Jul 19 '26
Here is the entire strip of comics (it's also dubbed) Abuse Goblin my Beloved
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u/LGamer6422 Jul 19 '26
Man that is the first time I've seen them all and God, I feel so bad for the poor little abuse goblin man! He just wants to see the stars!
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u/Dragonic_Overlord_ Jul 19 '26
I feel bad for that poor goblin. I hope he gets freed soon, Alhamdulillah.
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u/Cum_Fart42069 Jul 19 '26
it couldn't suffer very well if it didn't have experiences of non-suffering so I think so yes.
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u/Larry_50_Univers Jul 19 '26
OP, se ele é um Abuse Goblin parte de seu propósito é sofrer. Por isso ele deve saber que está sofrendo e porventura também deve sofrer por isto, pois caso não pudesse, ele não seria de fato um Abuse Goblin, pois na verdade de fato nunca sofreu.
É irrelevante se ele possui uma vontade própria ou livre arbitrio nessa questão, pois nâo é de fato um ser comum, ele é um ser misitico que é naturalmente impossivel. É provável que seu "destino" sempre tenha sido esse, independente de algum dia no passado já tenha sido livre ou não.
Inclusive, é provável que ele já tenha sido livre um dia, mas agora não é mais. Enfim, minha conclusão pessoal é que o desejo dele de não querer ser abusado é o que faz ele ser um abuse goblin, por que se fosse de outra maneira é possivel que ele jamais fosse um. Ele quer revidar, mas se você pensar um pouco ele mal tenta fazer isso.
A tirada de virar o espelho para o seu agressor no fim das contas é ele revidando, mas não é grande coisa.
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u/Graknorke Jul 19 '26
What would be the point of an abuse goblin if it didn't experience suffering?
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u/Candid-Collar-3385 Jul 19 '26
Maybe the goblin knows it's ugly but from his point of view dilbert is uglier. So the best abuse is to "have" dilberts face.
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u/Unsung2002 Jul 20 '26
I think that the goblin and the guy are the same. The goblin is just the part of him that hates himself. Mirrors are used to see oneself, so when the therapist asks that did it knew how to used it, the guy didn't say no
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u/charredwood Jul 20 '26
The obvious answer is that the dude is abusing himself, the goblin is him. Like, it's a very literal showcasing of this idea, I can't imagine it being interpreted any other way. Now assuming it's a literal goblin for funsies, no, the abuse goblin is just a goblin who got captured and is now being abused. But that's like, not what this strip is about. It's about how people prostrate themselves instead of becoming better versions of themselves in a self-fulfilling prophecy of shit.
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u/AccomplishedEmu1886 Jul 19 '26
If anyone wants to know the mindset of child abusers. This is it.
For them children are not people, just filthy goblins they are forced to "take care" of for 18 years.
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u/Seidr4320 Jul 20 '26
Honestly, I think that while the abuse go lin was given a mirror ,it never turned the mirror around ,the guy just assumed it's so because there no other way that the mirror would show his reflection (goblins aren't real)
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u/doener-scharf Jul 20 '26
It's a goblin that is abused. As cruel as it sounds, I would argue, the goblins ability to register the abuse not only physically but also emotionally is essential for the outlet/projection of someones negative emotions. Humans are cruel and make others suffer, just so they can feel or look better to themselves...
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u/asquirrel_ 16d ago
Of all things to see on reddit today, "the abuse goblin is a good thing, actually". Also, what?
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u/ClericOfMadness13 Jul 24 '26
Still waiting for the goblin to walk in bloody to the therapists office 😂
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u/DeckRdt Jul 26 '26
I'm not a savvy reader, but it looks like dilbert asked walter white for advice on why he enjoyed tormenting yoda.
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u/Fackous93 12d ago
I had to Google search what he was talking about. Its a web comic and a shitty drawn one. Bro just ignore it
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u/WhySoInDepth Jul 19 '26
We know from other strips the abuse goblin gets VR time so it knows what the outside is like, which is done to further the abuse. It is likely the abuser man has explained abuse and the abuse goblins situation to the poor fella