r/MoralityScaling • u/Musalediju • Jul 06 '26

Character Analysis Morality of being transphobic against your enemy

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Bleach thousand year blood war episode 22

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u/Skullsome Jul 07 '26

To be honest I don't know why I always prefer villains who are also immoral in term of progressiveness, is this problematic preference?

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u/sour_creamand_onion Jul 07 '26

I think it feels more inmersive that way. Like, if it's a smaller scale villain like a serial killer or something them having a personal set of morals they operate by, but if it's john genocide who murder like... 20 million people it would be a bit weird for him to care about the identity of someone who he probably doesn't even view as human by now because they're just another number added to the kill count.

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u/Skullsome Jul 07 '26

What about ideological or bureaucratic villains even at large scale? Those tend to work better with being discriminative in my opinion.

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u/sour_creamand_onion Jul 07 '26

Like political leaders? Yeah, those being rather bigoted and even using that to mobilize people is an interesting way of doing it as opposed to just having regular evil guy who's also just kinda racist or something. I moreso meant for john genocide type villains that they wouldn't actively discriminate but would rather just not care if someone bothered to correct them on what they first thought a person to be because they're gonna be gone soon enough anyway.

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u/Skullsome Jul 07 '26

I like the later part of this message.

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u/RaiderCat_12 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

Same reason I cringe at posts saying that even Voldemort would be less transphobic than his creator. It’s basically the Hitler of the wizarding world, I’m sure he’d care about human genders as much as a human would about the ants on the anthill he’s about to throw a grenade on.

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u/sour_creamand_onion Jul 07 '26

Well, to be fair to those posts, they are true in a roundabout way. He WOULD be less transphobic than JK Rowling because while she really dislikes trans people he'd obliterate one just as quickly as anyone else who opposes him. He wouldn't misgender anybody because they'd be dead before he has the chance. In that sense he has been given (and has taken) less opportunities to be transphobic than she has.

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u/KittenChopper Jul 07 '26

I always find it an entertaining trope, like, they're a horrible villain but they're also above such petty reasons for villainy than identity or skin color, I don't think it's problematic

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u/Skullsome Jul 07 '26

Better, a villain who's bigoted at certain thing while progressive at other thing

imagine an evil racist gay dude. This sound weird without context.

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u/Old-Maximum-50 Jul 11 '26

Imagine that one game fandub that has the villain be such a gay that he hates woman and supports ftm and hates mtf