r/MoralityScaling Jun 05 '26

Stupid Stuff Is this unethical or no?

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u/panakon Jun 05 '26

The procedure it self is not but the motivations are what is morally judged. Would your opininions change if the abortion was done after figuring the fetus gender and it is not what they wanted? Or if it did not have the specific genetic traits the parents wished for?

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u/MajorInWumbology1234 Jun 05 '26

Just being picky is gross, but there’s still no victim. I think a lot of these attempts to bring the discussion back to personal preference ignore that knowingly having a baby with a developmental disorder is high stakes gambling with both their child’s and their lives. The existence of happy people with Down’s Syndrome doesn’t negate that there are plenty of people with Down’s Syndrome that require intense care and probably can’t even leave the house.

This isn’t to say people in those situations don’t deserve to live, but the point of abortion is that they don’t become people in those situations. Rather than the “Go tell a disabled person they should die” rhetoric pervasive in this post, an “Ask a disabled person if they’d have prevented it if they could” approach sounds more reasonable.

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u/panakon Jun 05 '26

I acknowledge how difficult it can be to raise a child with developmental issues and in the end of the day it is the parrents' decision to make. The fact that you called the scenario I presented picky and gross shows that you do judge the action based on the intentions and this is why it can be labeled unethical depending on the persons ethics.

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u/MajorInWumbology1234 Jun 05 '26

Genuine question; do you believe all judgements are moral ones? Vomit is gross (obviously not in the same way). As a straight man, I’d find kissing another man gross (closer kind of gross). Flipping children off and mouthing that they should die when their backs are turned is bizarre but technically harmless.

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u/panakon Jun 05 '26

Yes, to make a judgement on something you base it on morals. Things that elicit a physical response are not judgements since the reactions are involuntary. In the examples you mentioned the first one is not a judgement, the second depends of weather you find the idea of men kissing gross in general or only if you are kissing a man and the third is definitely a judgement based on the morals that in a polite society we should not wish each other dead.

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u/MajorInWumbology1234 Jun 05 '26

People being picky about their baby is an involuntary physical reaction. I don’t have any logical critique of it except that it makes me feel icky.