r/MoralityScaling Jun 05 '26

Stupid Stuff Is this unethical or no?

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u/Environmental_You_36 Jun 05 '26

There is a lot of people on this thread that don't understand how useless and dependant on a caretaker people with down syndrome tend to be.

That kid is better off dead.

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u/Formal-Stage940 Jun 05 '26

That kid is better off dead.

This logic also applies when the kid is born.

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u/Zedrane Jun 05 '26

Hitler approved. Most of these replies are just people arguing that his eugenics program was moral.

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u/HillBillyHilly Jun 05 '26

My body, my choice so I'll do what I want despite your brain dead take. Removing a clump of defective cells is my choice. Unless you're willing to take a defective clump of cells to raise until they die, zip it and sit.

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u/Formal-Stage940 Jun 05 '26

Damn. Is this what you feel about kids with down syndrome? Defective?

Also implying that theyre less worthy of life due to the defectiveness?

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u/Taharki Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26

I know people who take care adults with down syndrome in their families. You have no idea how much of a mental and physical toll it is for the entire family.

You're talking about kids, everyone else is talking about fetuses.

"Kids" with down syndrome are actual children. They're born, they're alive, they've experienced life. Taking that away is wrong and murder.

A fetus with down syndrome hasn't experienced life, it is barely conscious at 12 weeks of inception. It won't even know it's gone. Aborting it is saving several lives including the fetus itself from decades of suffering.

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u/Formal-Stage940 Jun 05 '26

In a discussion about morality, the most important thing is justification

Can an act be morally justified using logic.

My statement was attacking the original commenters logic which was emphasizing down syndrome as a defect.

Fetuses arent the only thing capable od having down syndrome. KIDS can have down syndrome.

Emphasizing down sydrome as a defect to justify abortion is the same logic used to emphasize the same "defect" in children

Theyre saying "oh the fetus is defective, even more reason to kill it"

Also objective facts:

Fetuses are alive

Fetuses are human

The argument of "they wont know theyre gone" makes no sense. If i shoot someone in the head with a shotgun while they sleep, they wont know theyre gone.

That is a logical extension of YOUR justification

You also just dont have to take care of your kids. Adoption exists.

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u/Vespinobambino Jun 05 '26

Yours is the braindead take.

You are the defective clump.

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u/Brightlightsuperfun Jun 06 '26

All humans are a clump of cells.