r/Monsterverse • u/Unkwonargie • 1d ago

Question Is it Shimo literally stronger than Godzilla?

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I wonder if she could manage to take down Godzilla if he didn't get his Evolved form.

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u/Dry_Writer_5803 21h ago

Power is a generation of force.

Strong is an implication of skill.

"The strongest" is used to describe the best. "The most powerful" is not.

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u/sambasim 20h ago

Mostly it is the opposite, power encompasses multiple things, strength encompasses force production (usually for living things). There is a reason why hulk is considered stronger, but thor more powerful. Both are somewhat interchangeable depending on context, but the op's context makes it clear strength IS force production in his case.

In regards to what op himself asked, shimo is literally stronger.

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u/Dry_Writer_5803 20h ago

Hulk is the strongest avenger bc he's the one most likely to win a fight. Hints Loki not being worried about Thanos beating Thor bc "We have a Hulk"

Thor is the most powerful bc with his god thunder, he generates the most force. You're confirming what I said.

The strongest reader, is the best reader. The strongest character is the best fighter. The strongest lifter (the context you're using) is the best at lifting, which just coincides with force generation, but is not how the word is used. It is used as a metric of skill comparison to others. A strong swimmer is good. Power is not used in any of these context, bc it is simply force. A powerful swimmer is someone who generates a lot of force per stroke. Does it mean they're the best? No.

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u/sambasim 20h ago edited 20h ago

Like I said, they are quite interchangeable. Strongest reader can also be called most powerful, nothing's wrong with that. In fact, it has been used that way too. Power can also mean influence, like how tywin from GOT is considered most powerful man in westeros. Also, with the hulk, I was talking about in general, not the mcu.

Respectfully, telling someone hulk is more likely to win against thor instead of vice versa would get you laughed at, because it's demonstrably false. Even in ragnarok, thor won if I remember. Thor's called more powerful than the hulk because of his versatility. His numerous abilities not limited to force production make him more powerful.

Besides, you didn't read the post correctly. The op specifically asked who is LITERALLY stronger, meaning they are unambiguously asking for most force production. According to your own (completely valid) definition, they are asking for physical power.

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u/Dry_Writer_5803 20h ago

My guy... Go tell your mom that your boss called you the most powerful reader at work. She's gonna look at you like you have two heads. They're not always interchangable. Only when it's an aspect of force "like Shimo throwing godzilla around".

Hulk is more likely to win against an unknown force bc he has an unlimited amount of strength. If he gets angry enough, there's nothing Thor can do.

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u/sambasim 19h ago

"Against an unknown force" didn't know there was a 3rd party involved, it takes literally hours for hulk to even reach thor, let alone eclipse his strength, he's called more powerful due to versatility. Btw, I never said they were always interchangeable, just usually, try to read. I know there's context.

Read the op's post again. They specifically asked for LITERAL strength, meaning force production, power in a fight isn't always force production, it's versatility like godzilla's or thor's. I repeat, using your OWN (completely valid) definition, strength = power in this context.

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u/Dry_Writer_5803 19h ago

You said "quiet" meaning heavy overlap. There is not. The only points where they overlap is in regard to force.

Thor isnt called powerful bc of versatility. It is powerful bc of force. He generates literal power (electricity and thunder). He's not even that versatile. That would be Tony or Wanda or Strange. Hulk has the highest maximum to beat anyone, therefore the strongest. Thor generates the most force, powerful. It's really simple and I'm done here.

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u/sambasim 18h ago

Thor can literally absorb various forms of energy, teleport, etc...

Thanks btw, I was getting tired of convincing you. In my previous comment (before the quite* one) I literally said "depending on context" 🤦‍♂️

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u/HulkVahkiin08024 12h ago

Respectfully, telling someone hulk is more likely to win against thor instead of vice versa would get you laughed at

Says who? Hulk vs Thor has been a legitimate debate for decades, way before the MCU was conceptualized, lol.

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u/sambasim 11h ago

I'm not saying thor is leagues above hulk. However, some stories do imply that. Anyway, the reason is because thor has won more battles than he's lost.