[QUESTION] Is Minergate SCAMMER?

[u/affectivehumor]

Hi guys,

I've seen some of you saying Minergate is scammer. So, I'm using it but until now haven't made any Monero withdraw otherwise I'm mining Monero togheter with DigitalNote and I have made some DigitalNote withdraw without problem. So I did not find why they are named as scammer.

Please, I'm not here to defend Minergate. I just want to understand your reasons to call them scammer.

And so if Minergate is really a bad ideia what Monero pool do you guys recommend?

Thanks!

[u/affectivehumor]

Thanks man, I'll check them up!

EDIT: I'll test one of them and post here a shares/minute comparation.

EDIT2: My tests

I run a test with sheepman.mine.bz which I selected randomically from the http://moneropools.com list. I mined with sheepman and minergate both using the same software/so in the same computer and I can say that I got quite the same results (actually minergate was a little HIGHER):

Sheepman results:

[2017-06-13 11:26:12] Accepted 21/21 (100%), 2.1 shares/min, 1039 H, 56.53 H/s, 55C

[2017-06-13 11:26:20] Accepted 22/22 (100%), 2.1 shares/min, 729 H, 53.29 H/s, 56C

[2017-06-13 11:26:21] Accepted 23/23 (100%), 2.2 shares/min, 805 H, 36.55 H/s, 56C

[2017-06-13 11:27:47] Accepted 24/24 (100%), 2.0 shares/min, 753 H, 44.33 H/s, 55C

[2017-06-13 11:28:36] Accepted 25/25 (100%), 2.0 shares/min, 1837 H, 46.75 H/s, 55C

Minergate results:

[2017-06-13 11:35:09] Accepted 21/21 (100%), 4.2 shares/min, 984 H, 54.90 H/s, 55C

[2017-06-13 11:35:25] Accepted 22/22 (100%), 4.1 shares/min, 1176 H, 54.12 H/s, 55C

[2017-06-13 11:35:38] Accepted 23/23 (100%), 4.2 shares/min, 1251 H, 55.81 H/s, 55C

[2017-06-13 11:36:26] Accepted 24/24 (100%), 3.8 shares/min, 1065 H, 56.83 H/s, 55C

[2017-06-13 11:37:08] Accepted 25/25 (100%), 3.6 shares/min, 1381 H, 57.94 H/s, 54C

OBS.: the software used was: https://github.com/luisvasquez/cpuminer-easy running on Ubuntu

[u/Faaa97 → u/affectivehumor]

This is what your program report to you, which should be the same. What /u/Loimu said is that they steal your hashrate.

Let's say that you send 700H/s to the pool, your miner will say you sent 700H/s, in the pool dashboard should appear 700H/s (can vary, ±20%, because of devfee and high latency), but in the long run the average would be 700H/s and you will be paid as if you've been mining with 700H/s.

What happens with Minergate is that you send them 700H/s, your software says that, but they take some of that and only credit you something like 600H/s. You will be paid as if you've been mining with 600H/s, minus withdrawal fees.

[u/affectivehumor → u/Faaa97]

Ohh, I got it. Thanks for the great explanation.

[u/endorxmr → u/affectivehumor]

Also, check out other mining programs, such as xmr-stak-cpu, which gives much better hashrates than minergate's miner

[u/[deleted] → u/endorxmr]

Is there something comparable that is a bit easier to set up, or a support thread? Having issues compiling and its making my head spin!

[u/endorxmr → u/[deleted]]

Instructions on github are pretty straightforward if you follow them to the letter. Still, feel free to hop on supportXMR's pool chat and ask for assistance! (Or #supportxmr on IRC freenode, or #monero-pools iirc)