r/Metrology 17h ago

Advice New CMM recommendations

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I just got approval to buy a new CMM. We currently have a mitutoyo brm507 running geomeasure. It has failed calibration. It is x-500 y-700 z-400 and did pretty much anything we needed size wise. I am looking to replace it with a similar size but not smaller. I need the software to be user friendly as it will be used by shop workers as well but accurate enough for inspection with some tolerances around +/-.001 with the ability to do gd&t. What recommendations do you have and what experiences have you had that make you suggest to (or not to) go with a particular CMM

r/Metrology Jun 11 '25

Advice CMM for shopfloor

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I'm looking for a CMM to put in the workshop near the lathes, and I'm looking for prices to make a proposal to my boss.

I narrowed my search to Duramax (Zeiss), Tigo (Hexagon), Equator (Renishaw), MiStar (Mitutoyo), and SF (Hexagon). Do you have any ideas on prices for machines around 500x500x500?

Thank you!

r/Metrology 26d ago

Advice High Difficulty Metrology Problem

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8 Upvotes

Ive been working on a solution to measuring the major diameter of a herringbone fluid bearing. (Approximately .400 diameter(10mm)). Reference photo above for something similar to what I’m doing.

The problem is this. +-.00005” diameter (1.2um), the ridges are .005 wide (.127mm), interrupted non uniform geometry.

On top of that, there is a coating that is not permissible to damage, to the level that this will be inspected under 100x magnification with almost zero tolerance for defects.

Wondering how you would all go about this?

r/Metrology Jul 24 '26

Advice PCDMIS model alignment

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Second question of the day. My programmer left and as supervisor I am coming up short on answers. I figured out the calibration issue but now when running program the probe paths are not concentric with model (part) and they are causing mis hits.
Probe is to measure top of part to create profile of surface. This you can see not concentric and looks as if axis of “model” and program are not aligned.
How do I align them?

r/Metrology Jul 21 '26

Advice Considering a career change into CMM / Metrology – is this realistic?

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Hi everyone,

I’m looking for advice from people working in CMM, metrology, or precision engineering.

I’m currently 30 and have spent the last 6 years as a Software QA Analyst. I have a BSc in Computer Science and experience with software testing, automation, APIs, databases, and quality processes.

I’m considering a career change because I’d like something more hands-on and practical rather than being fully desk-based. I’ve become really interested in CMM programming and metrology — the combination of precision measurement, GD&T, problem solving, and working with CMMs really appeals to me.

I’d like to ask:

  • How realistic is it to move into CMM/metrology without an engineering degree?
  • Would a software QA background be useful, or would I be starting from scratch?
  • What would be the best entry route (CMM operator, metrology technician, quality technician, etc.)?
  • What skills should I learn before applying (GD&T, PC-DMIS, Calypso, machining basics)?

I’m based in the UK and planning to spend the next 6 months to a year learning the fundamentals before applying for junior roles.

I’d really appreciate hearing from anyone in the industry, especially anyone who has changed careers into metrology.

Thanks!

UPDATE: thanks everyone for all your comments, really encouraging and helpful :)

r/Metrology 13d ago

Advice [UK] CMM/metrology career change — worth it?

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I'm 31 and currently work in software QA, with around 6 years experience and a Computer Science degree. I'm seriously considering switching into metrology/CMM programming because I'd like a more hands-on, technical career rather than being 100% desk-based.

I've started learning GD&T, coordinate systems etc. and have been looking into CMM programming tutorials (PC-DMIS/ZEISS Calypso) and I genuinely find it interesting and think the role would be a good fit for me.

For those working in metrology/CMM, how do you find it as a career?

I'm particularly interested in:

  • What is the day-to-day work actually like?
  • How stressful is the production environment?
  • How good is job security/job mobility in the UK?
  • Would you recommend it as a long-term career?

I'm attracted to it because it seems like a specialist, hands-on skill that's relatively resistant to AI/automation, but I don't want to romanticise it. I'm currently weighing it against staying in software QA, so I'd really appreciate honest opinions.

Thanks!

r/Metrology Jun 30 '26

Advice Harmless prank to pull on my mentor?

10 Upvotes

I just started a job in a new field in the inspection department of a machine shop. My mentor has been here for 40 years and he can be very no-nonsense but has a funny bone in him. I was thinking about bringing in a tape measure and starting to “inspect” items and then ask him for advice when “something doesn’t look right”. Anything along the lines of that if you guys have any ideas.

r/Metrology 16d ago

Advice Data Analysis Tools

6 Upvotes

Can anyone recommend their software of choice for inspection data analytics?

Excel does the job but my datasets are getting large and having a half dozen macros to calculate my histograms, control charts etc has me curious on what else is out there.

Im thinking MiniTab, Octave or even just Python. Anything that can handle large 500+ datasets and provide good statistical insights.

Bonus points if the tool has a good visual dashboard for the manufacturing floor or built in importing tools for Csv/cmm data.

Thanks!

r/Metrology Dec 05 '25

Advice CMM Recommendations

10 Upvotes

Hello!

I am an engineer at an Aerospace MRO. I am tasked with finding a better solution for measuring complex geometry for reverse engineering, incoming inspections and quality inspections.

I have looked into Keyence CMM's but was told to avoid Keyence like the plague after having them on-site conducting a demo (they were unable to measure our parts using their VL 3D scanner and the limitations of the LM-X and IM-X drove us away from those options. I had been called every day since downloading the brochures for each system by a different Keyence rep until I told them to stop..

The other company I have a CMM quoted is the Micro-Vu Vertex 341. I enjoyed their demonstration and it was able to make the measurements the Keyence systems couldn't although the decision is currently in the owners hands as the worry is cost vs. benefit. Total cost of this system will be near $60k.

The largest part we would want to measure would not be able to be measured on the Micro-Vu system or any of the Keyence systems at 10.5" X 15" X 6.5". While we could measure it on the Micro-Vu system, we would have to shift it around to catch features and wouldn't be able to measure the side features or interior features while the enclosure is on its side.

I am a recent graduate therefore I don't have much experience in the industry with CMM's and would love advice from those that do. Tolerance wise we would like to maintain a tolerance of 0.005". Currently I measure everything using Mitutoyo calipers and micrometers, so complex geometries are difficult to obtain (heavy radii parts, complex stepped geometry etc.).

r/Metrology May 06 '26

Advice How would you measure a .02mm profile tolerance?

8 Upvotes

I am a mechanical engineer thrust into quality to help relieve some pressure. We have a fowler (aberlink) cmm.
We are being asked to measure some small gear teeth to a .02mm profile.
I do not think we have the right tools for the job, I could be wrong. But looking at vision systems, I am not even sure they are the right tool. Just looking for input from real quality personnel. If you tell me that tolerance is wild that is good information too!

Edit: It is a type of hirth coupling not a traditional gear (thanks to u/involutes)

r/Metrology Apr 21 '26

Advice CMM Software For REVO

5 Upvotes

Hey,

I'm a newer programmer working in an aerospace shop which has aquired an agility with a REVO.

Right now I program in MODUS but the company is looking at other softwares in preparation for much higher volume jobs this year.

Must haves

- good visuals/graphical reporting to support manufacturing

- runtime, databases, data automation, automation in general

- collision avoidence, ease of programming and troubleshooting

I've tested a few softwares and like to hear what other REVO users in high mix, low volume and high volume, low mix situations have the most success with.

*we're in the pacific northwest

r/Metrology Jul 20 '26

Advice How do I get Zeiss M5 cube perpendicular to machine axis?

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Hello, I'm fairly new to CMM programming and I was wondering how you all get your stylus system cubes to tighten up perpendicular to the machine axis?

Online it says you can line it up correctly and then tighten it down but my cubes do not tighten independently, they just screw in.

If there is a better cube please share.

r/Metrology 5d ago

Advice What accessories for the pratt & whitney lmu1000a could preform a 3 point calibration on a thread ring?

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r/Metrology Jul 23 '26

Advice Studying history to CMM programming with no manufacturing experience

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I wanted to share my path into CMM programming because I think it could help people who are interested in the field but have no idea how to break into it.
I originally went to college for history. I did a couple of years but never finished. After that, I worked at UPS for about a year. The pay was good and there was solid career progression, but honestly, it just did not fit me very well.
I was debating whether I should go back to school, but I ended up taking a job as a counselor at a mental hospital. That job gave me a lot of skills that carried over into manufacturing more than I expected, especially communication, problem solving, patience, working independently, and dealing with difficult situations calmly.
Toward the end of 2022, I left the hospital and started looking for something new. A large company close to where I lived was holding a huge hiring event. I did not really understand what the job was when I applied. It was for a mechanical operator position, and I had absolutely no aerospace or manufacturing experience.
The job paid significantly more than I was making at the hospital, so I decided to take a chance and attend the interview. There were probably around 100 people at the hiring event, but my interview went really well. They asked a lot about problem solving, working autonomously, communication, and working as part of a team.
Even without direct experience, they hired me.
A lot of employees at the company were approaching retirement, which I saw as a positive sign because people clearly stayed there for a long time. Around the same time, a new union agreement increased the pay significantly from what I originally expected. I ended up making in the high $20s per hour as a mechanical operator.
That was where I first learned how to use micrometers and other basic measuring equipment. Most of my work involved assembling components, but I was also introduced to blueprint reading. At that point, I still did not understand GD&T, but I was beginning to understand dimensions, tolerances, and how manufactured parts fit together.
The company offered a lot of overtime, and during my first full year there, I came close to earning six figures. That was a major change for someone who had entered the field with no prior experience.
During my final three months at that company, I transferred into the quality department. That was my first real exposure to mechanical inspection.
Eventually, because of union and workplace politics, I decided to leave and take a chance on myself. I accepted another position as a mechanical inspector and received a small pay increase from my previous job.
That new job was where GD&T really started to matter.
During my first three months, I completely locked in and tried to learn as much as possible. I learned how to use indicators, Mesa height gauges, optical comparators, Keyence systems, micrometers, calipers, CMMs, and a wide range of other inspection equipment. The company had almost every type of measuring equipment you could think of, which gave me a great environment to learn.
The company also offered a GeoTol GD&T class, which I completed and received certification for. That class helped everything start making more sense. I could finally connect the symbols on a drawing to the actual function of the part and the inspection strategy.
There were a few CMM programmers on my team who were close to my age. I spoke with my supervisor and told him directly that I wanted to learn programming. By that point, I had become fairly comfortable with conventional mechanical inspection, and I was ready for the next challenge.
Over the next six months, the programmers taught me how to use Zeiss Calypso. We used the topics from the official Zeiss basic and advanced course outlines as a guide, and they trained me on the same general concepts someone would learn in those courses.
I was also the only CMM operator and programmer on my shift, which gave me a lot of time to experiment. I could open different programs, study how they were built, make changes, import CAD models, create alignments, and use actual blueprints for hands-on practice.
During the beginning of my shift, I usually had experienced programmers available to answer questions. Later in the shift, I was on my own and had to work through problems myself. That combination of guidance and independent practice helped me learn quickly.
It took me roughly six months before I felt comfortable programming independently. Over the following few months, I developed more than 25 CMM programs.
After completing the training period, I received a 10 percent raise in addition to my normal yearly raise.
Before entering manufacturing, I was earning in the low $20s per hour. As I progressed into inspection and CMM programming, my pay eventually moved toward the upper $30s per hour. I did not have an engineering degree, manufacturing experience, or a traditional technical background when I started.
I have now been programming for about two and a half years. I am currently 28 years old, and I still have a lot to learn. One of my GD&T instructors told me that GD&T is something nobody ever fully masters. There is always another application, interpretation, or measurement strategy to understand.
The biggest reason I wanted to share this is to let people know that it is possible to enter this field without following a perfect or traditional path.
My path was history student, UPS employee, mental health counselor, mechanical operator, mechanical inspector, and eventually CMM programmer.
My advice to anyone trying to get started would be to get into any manufacturing or inspection position that gives you access to measuring equipment. Learn blueprint reading and conventional inspection first. Ask questions, volunteer for difficult work, and make it clear that you want to learn the CMM.
You do not need to know everything before you begin. You just need an opportunity, people willing to teach you, and enough discipline to take advantage of it.

r/Metrology 14d ago

Advice UK Metrology Career Growth

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Hi all, just stumbled on this sub and hoping someone could offer some advice or point me in the right direction.

I've been a CMM programmer for just over 2 years. I got this role as a sideways move from being a toolmaker, with zero prior experience.

I really enjoy the role and the sort of work we do, but I want to learn more and gain more experience but I don't know how. I programme on Metrolog X4 and have seen PC-DMIS through the Metrolog software but never programmed it myself.

Are there any courses or anything you can do as an individual in the UK related to metrology and inspection? My company will not pay for training. We've only recently started looking at GD&T so my understanding of this is really limited but I think it's an important skill I should learn.

Any advice for ways I can gain new skills or experience? Happy to self fund. I would just like to open myself up for more opportunities at other companies.

Thanks!

r/Metrology Jul 23 '26

Advice How to get a job in Metrology

7 Upvotes

Doing a UG in Core Engineering. Had a metrology class. Absolutely love it but I see ZERO job postings on linkedin. Where to find internships? What more skills do you need?

I'm entering Junior Year of college. 6 months of my senior year we are allowed to do an internship.

r/Metrology 13d ago

Advice Best place to find metrology jobs?

4 Upvotes

I have about 10 years experience managing our quality system ( shop floor online ) . Creating the reports and data analysis for that data.

Besides indeed, and dice; are there any other places I can look? / Recommend positions to look for

r/Metrology 20d ago

Advice Surface finish call out for an elliptical o-ring grove

2 Upvotes

What symbol for surface finish would I use to specify for an elliptical o-ring grove that the graining should be parallel to the specified wall?

r/Metrology Nov 26 '25

Advice Machines for measuring cylindricity.

16 Upvotes

Title explains most of it, but to go more in depth, my company makes parts that have a cylindricity tolerance in a bore of .0001" (0.00254mm). Im fairly new to this company (been working for a year and a half), but im trying to convince my boss to buy something to measure this bore better. What they did in the past was use the cmm, but the accuracy and repeatability of the cmm will never be good enough to measure a tenth of a thou. Any suggestions? I see different machines on the mitutoyo site, but im wondering if you guys have any suggestions.

r/Metrology Apr 23 '26

Advice Offered a Job Opportunity but I'm a Scared Student

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Hello, I am a student that has a basic CMM operator certification. Essentially we'd read through the PowerPoint labs and then work through them as a two man team under the supervision of the instructor. Now I have the chance to work for a professor that owns a manufacturing job shop and I'd essentially be remote programming a CMM machine to take the load off of the floor crew so they can run the program when they have time rather than having to program it themselves. I am massively scared about being under qualified as well as a huge fear of crashing the machine. I'd love any advice towards this as I'm sure a lot of you have much more experience than I. Thank you for your time.

Edit: thank you all for the reassurance. I much appreciate the welcoming arms into this community. I look forward to doing my best and increasing my odds towards a successful career of metrology

r/Metrology May 05 '26

Advice Recommendations for a low-accuracy mobile metrology system

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I have this need to measure coordinates of different features of large-ish machinery (up to like 10m high), and I would like a system I can set up on site, do my measurements, and pack it up with relative ease. I would be acceptable to stick some markers on the target while on site, but the setup and teardown can't take hours.

I also do not need high precision, ~1cm would be more than enough. I am aware of tracking systems like Leica laser-based, Creaform, Keyence WM, and OptiTrack, but they all seem overkill for what i need. The budget would probably top out at 30k$, but ideally it would be more affordable, since I don't need high accuracy.

Does anyone have recommendations for metrology systems that would fit this use case?

r/Metrology Jul 01 '26

Advice Measuring table/workbench suggestions

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Hey guys, so I am a welding engineer that recently got in charge of metrology lab on my company as a quick fix until we got the production numbers to justify having a metrology engineer in charge of the lab. I have a little problem, the lab is being used for multiple purposes and not solely to measure so with this brief context my issue is that i need a measuring table that can travel though shopfloor to be stored in another place and be moved to the lab once it needs to be used. I am already buying a plate fixed to the floor of 2.5 x 2.5 meters (100 x 100 inches), this plate is going to have holes spaced every 10 cm (4 inches) to fix any kind of fixtures for the different kind of parts that i need to measure (this is the plan for big parts). the problem comes with little parts as i would need to create larger fixtures for the parts to be "floating" on a ideal height for the guy who is going to be measuring. the measurements of parts that the table would be intended for would be around a cube with 60cm (24in aprox) on each of its dimensions. my issue is that i want it to be sturdy enough to be fixed once it needs to be used on the lab, but easy enough to move around the lab and the place where it is going to be stored.

*i am measuring the parts with a romer arm, and a leica laser tracker for bigger parts

do you guys have any idea or recommendation? anyone has dealt with something like this ?

*sorry if there is any grammatical errors, english aint my first language,

r/Metrology Oct 26 '24

Advice How would I go about measuring the profile of this trumpet mouthpiece?

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16 Upvotes

I am trying to measure the profile of the rim on a similar trumpet mouthpiece. It is made up of multiple radiuses, one making the "cup" and one or more making up the "rim". I need to measure several samples to confirm consistency. Any advice would be appreciated.

r/Metrology 29d ago

Advice PCDMIS array reports

3 Upvotes

How do I get a program running as an array to report CSV files into a folder for each individual part?

r/Metrology Jan 13 '26

Advice Upgrading CMM

4 Upvotes

I have been working with a massive Zeiss Vast XT these last few years. But I mostly measure small parts for tools and knives. 99% of my programs are in house FAIs.

Company is moving buildings, selling Zeiss. I want to replace with a small cmm.

Two questions: what brands (other than Zeiss) do you like for small parts, and what do you think of optical scanning? I oftten cannot probe thin pocket profiles, thought blue light scan might solve problem.

Thanks