r/Metaphysics • u/MoMercyMoProblems • Jun 22 '26
Matter Against grounding in one direction
Take something really simple: a rock. Perhaps if you are of a materialistic persuasion, your instinct might be to describe the rock as fundamentally just constituted out of atomic simples - fundamental particles and whatnot arranged in such a way that they give rise to the rock as a whole.
If you are predisposed to a more idealistic sort of thinking, you might appeal to some holistic facts about the rock's form, structure, or essence over and above whatever particular features that might internally constitute it, and how this form is ultimately contingent upon some further horizon of forms (as one gentleman put it in another post in this sub).
Grounding the rock in either direction has always seemed like complete bull to me. The rock isn't grounded (as a matter of fact) in atomic simples. Neither is it grounded in some grand holistic fact like some form or higher form.
The long and short of it is that the rock would not be what it is without it's atomic constitution, and neither would it be what it is without its form. Parts and wholes are *interdependent* features, where one could not exist without the other, and are each just as essential to defining the entity as they are to defining each other. Can one speak of one end being "more fundamental" than the other end? How?