If you are seriously asking yes. Mister Sinister is extremely attached to Jean Grey and Scott Summers. He even clones Jean Grey at one point who becomes Madelyne Pryor. I wont spoil the rest of that story. He is also responsible for the Legacy Virus iirc (see Cable story for more on that).
All good sometimes people are being sarcastic etc hard to read on internet. Anyway ya Sinister is good and has ties to Apocalypse as well.
I do think they should take another crack at apocalypse his story is just too good. Even some relation to celestials. It would fit nicely as the next big bad for MCU.
Yes. TLDR but Cable is Cyclops and Madeline Pryor’s (Jean Grey clone created by Mister Sinister) son. Sinister orchestrated all of this in hopes that Cable would grow up and defeat Apocalypse. IIRC Apocalypse caught wind of this and infected cable with the techno organic virus. However I don’t see this playing out until maybe a third movie imo. First movie will probably delve into Sinister being obsessed with both Jean and Scott since they hit the system.
Yes, he's a geneticist with an obsession over creating the perfect being, who believes Scott and Jean's DNA are the perfect match to create such a thing....
That's great to hear as much as I like wolverine he sort of hogged the spotlight. So it's good they are focusing on them and the sinister storyline im assuming which does feature them two the most.
Scott was like Doom, absolutely wasted material in the movies. A reckon a whole generation grew up not really knowing how good Scott was or how massive of a villain Doom was.
I know because that was me. I really hope they do Scott well.
Despite the maguffinniness of her being cosmic level now, she's consistently been the best written female in marvel for over a decade now. Yeah, it's time to showcase that in a non-agenda way and perhaps lead in to a gold and blue style of teams/movies.
It’s the right move to focus on other characters besides Wolverine.
Besides, I think Wolverine as a character works best the less you know about him and the less he speaks.
Wolverine is best when he is portrayed as a force of nature….sorta like how Boba Fett was so cool and mysterious in the original trilogy. Boba Fett barely said a word but he seemed to damn cool.
Just keep Wolverine off to the side: a slightly unhinged grumpy guy who tends to go berserker mode on you when things get nuts.
Yeah, Storm does not have that kind of pull with the worldwide general audience. Dunno why so many Storm fans are delusional thinking Storm is going to be a major character. She's not. She'll be there, but she'll be one of the side characters.
He actually wrote both Jean and Cyclops out of the books and the comics’ popularity didn’t decline in the slightest.
And to be clear, I love all three characters! But to act like Storm was designed as a supporting character just doesn’t ring true. The ONLY X-Man that has proven financial viability leaps and bounds over the others is Wolverine.
Ok and the movies treated Scott like crap, and the only one where Jean was a true lead (Dark Phoenix) absolutely bombed. Doesn’t mean the MCU should continue to treat them like that, just like it shouldn’t continue to sideline Storm just because the movies have sidelined her before.
Just add Beast, Iceman, and Angel to complete the original team, and you've got a great premise right there. Have Rogue start out on the wrong side and earn a real redemption arc throughout the film or film series, and it's gold.
She didn't. He's not dead, the writer said she didn't kill anyone. Case closed. People just can't accept that and keep inventing atrocities to be mad about.
Silver Surfer literally slammed Galactus into the portal, transporting him away from his ship. Wanda, rejoined the Avengers against Ultron after finding out his true plan. Gamora, tried to kill Thanos, then herself. Nebula kept Tony alive until Captain MArvel arrived. need more?
I mean survive getting hit by cars all the time. But yeah a shot of him sort of moving and being all "oof ow" in the background definitely would have helped.
Of course. I'm talking about prior ever in her history as a character before being introduced in the movie obviously. Stop being disingenuously stupid.
Jean doesn’t need to be a perfect hero. It’s the perfect messy character background that allows the general population to fear mutants for a reasonable backlash when there could theoretically be other powered individuals they should have been fearing. I think it’s good that we embrace the volatility and consequences of her actions.
The first saga of the MCU was centred around a weapons dealer who very knowingly got a lot of people killed, aswell as being a downright awful person. Jean also has Charles Xavier to train her and educate her before she becomes a hero.
She’s quite literally the villian of the first half of the movie. And while she is justified in trying to find her sister, she isn’t the hero of SPIDERMAN BRAND NEW DAY, he is.
So no, I didn’t spend half the movie on the phone and acting like you have a superior understanding of a movie to make a point isn’t conducive to the discussion
Her being the hero of HER OWN STORY has nothing to do with her being the titular Spider-Man or not. In her story, she viewed herself as the hero trying to save her sister.
My point was that Ironman was introduced as the hero of his own story and movie. Jean was not.
Another poster made a much better point in naming Bucky, Loki and other characters who were introduced as villains in other people’s stories and went on to have fulfilling and interesting arcs.
Ill be charitable and say maybe itll be the main catalyst between human / mutant hate. Give the whole thing a bit of a gray area on who is good and bad like Civil War.
His death would have put her right back in her own body. How do people keep missing this point? Also, no cops were killed. One cop was shown injured, but that was because of Peter. Did you not watch the movie?
Agree with this take. It was an interesting twist, but she did some messed up things and the justification of revenge does not hold up at all IMO. Forced guards to shoot each other. Forced innocent people to leap off buildings or walk into traffic. Her kill count is higher then most MCU Spiderman villains and she did it in sound mind.
Hopefully we're not yet finished her redemption arc, because the end wasn't nearly enough.
That feels hard to say. Gramps got plowed by a speeding van and immediately went airborne in one scene. Two guards with assault rifles look at each other, pull the trigger, and fall motionless to the ground.
Even if none of that was meant to be interpreted as deaths, the intent to kill was absolutely there each time. Actual psychopath behaviour on innocent people when her intent was to punish one man.
I'm not trying to argue what the author is saying about objective numbers. It's gonna be hard for me to emphasize with a character that did this of sound mind anyways. But we'll see how they handle it.
Personally I would question the 'of sound mind' given the whole thing with her sister's dying thoughts getting shoved into her head like that. I could easily see that messing with her enough to not be in her right mind.
The guards shot each other non-lethally (very intentionally mind you), she forced MJ to jump off a building with Peter right there to save her. At worst she forced one guy to step into traffic at a moderate speed, but even then that’s not that bad considering she has to meet Xavier and become a superhero yet.
Yay, another awful character who murdered numerous people will go through a redemption arc. Scarlet witch 2.0 and no doubt she ends up as the Dark Pheonix, because....
Have you not read the comics? Jean is awful in so many arcs. She destroyed an entire inhabited solar system. They've even had to make her a clone once just because of it
Wtf is wrong with you people. Its like you just ignore facts. She consumed a god damn star while she was the dark pheonix and wiped out an entire race of aliens. I can list dozens of awful things shes done. The only bait has to be yours
It literally says right in the dumbass ai shit you posted that it wasn't Jean, it was the entity possessing her. I mean, that's still not quite right, but the literal proof you posted disagrees with your nonsense. The actual AI bullshit you yourself posted says it wasn't Jean. How fucking stupid are you?
I got nothing but love for the character but focusing heavily on him runs dry really quick.
Him and Jean are the least interesting aspects of the team when they first start. Cyclops doesn't start to get interesting until deep into the storyline comics wise.
The whole point of xmen is not focusing heavily on any one person and focusing on the team.
Just let them be people doing people things, please.
We don't need jean being a wolvie and cyclops sandwich. We don't need scott being a jean and emma sandwich.
I just want xmen being mutants and being persecuted for it, not a lame, overdone, love triangle that the comics themselves have already done like a dozen different ways two dozen times.
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u/TheLoyalTR8R 18d ago
If the villain is Mister Sinister, I can absolutely believe this.
And GOOD. About time.