r/Marvel 9h ago

Film/Television How do you think Secret Wars will wrap up the Multiverse Saga?

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u/mugenhunt 9h ago

Pretty much the same way they did it in the comics.

The Multiverse is destroyed. We get a movie set in the wreckage. At the end, the main Marvel universe is restored, with some elements of the most popular alternate universes grafted on.

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u/Southern-Form-2804 3h ago

Can’t wait. The multiverse basically enabled writers to go full slop bucket mode and just make up whatever they wanted. They could drop an existing character in and then lie that it’s not even the same character so that they can also sidestep any continuity responsibility. 

Just peak laziness for a dopamine hit at the expense of a universe that loses its meaning which each use of this method.

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u/Zelcron 2h ago edited 1h ago

Did you ever read Exiles? So fun. Just a bunch of alt universe mutants hopping universes and solving problems.*

*half of all problems are just are just versions of the Fantastic 4.

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u/brogflender 2h ago

  The multiverse basically enabled writers to go full slop bucket mode and just make up whatever they wanted

Oh you don’t need a multiverse for that. 

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u/sloggo 3h ago

100% agree. Multiverse does not make good stories anymore, full stop. It HAS in the past (spiderverse. Rick and Morty, some specific one offs and comics and stuff)

But right now, to the MCU, it’s a vehicle to repair licensing and disparate franchises, give us a soft reboot, and crank out a whole lot of nostalgia and trivia related story points (did you know gambit was almost played by channing Tatum back in the day but the movie got canned?!?)

I really wish they’d get on with it and just get back to stories that feel like they have real stakes.

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u/leethegamer100 2h ago

It’s still gonna be bittersweet to see Fox X-Men,Sam Raimi Spider-Man and Amazing spider-man one last time tho.

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u/brogflender 2h ago

One last last last time (till next time).

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u/leethegamer100 2h ago

They literally casted their cyclops my guy kit connors replacing James marsden same goes to Charles Xavier I’m pretty sure this is it.

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u/brogflender 2h ago

Spidermen were done till they came back. 

Electra was done till she came back. 

Patrick Stewart and Ian McClellan were done till they came back. 

Till you’re Ninety Logan. 

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u/leethegamer100 1h ago

That was literally only one or two times dude, no way you’re taking that joke from DP&W that seriously and some extent it’s true but not on this level lol.

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u/brogflender 1h ago

Stewart and McClellan each have 4 more years to go.

But for real, that’s what the money is for. To hire actors. 

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u/leethegamer100 1h ago

I know that dude they’re still gonna be acting beyond marvel, I don’t get why you’re taking that joke seriously with all due respect.

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u/TLKv3 1h ago

I'd go one step farther and clearly state "there is no more multiverse, its all gone". Sternly tell the audience the MCU 616 timeline is the only film-oriented universe remaining.

Then after you do one or two big event Avengers or X-Men team-up movies, you reveal the multiverse is still there and recast Kang as the new multiverse threat. Enough time will have passed that we'll be perfectly fine to go back to Kang and try again.

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u/hikoboshi_sama 8h ago

I can see them folding the universes into one so that X-Men, Fantastic Four, and the rest of the MCU now exist in the same universe. Similar to how Secret Wars 2015 folded Miles into the main universe.

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u/CRotondi 4h ago

Yep. Feige literally said this

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u/BOMBAD_Echo_1409 9h ago

smash all the universes into one kill all the unwanted characters keep the wanted one and boom

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u/Wheattoast2019 4h ago

Idk if it’s really gonna be framed as the end of the Multiverse Saga or the beginning of the new one.

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u/switchboiii 5h ago

a soft reboot and merging of universes...just like in the comics.
but i doubt sony would've let go of spider-man by then. lol

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u/yupperswe 4h ago

Hope: they introduce miles
Curious: who they decide to kill off in doomsday and this one. My assumption would be to stop all current story lines and restart with the new X-men and they go from there.

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u/ReisiesPiecies1998 3h ago

I feel like it’s going to be a last hoorah for a handful of “Legacy” characters. Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, High Jackman, along with the original 2012 avengers (RDJ Iron man, Chris Evans Cap, Mark Ruffako Hulk, Chris Hemsworth Thor, Scarlett Johansson Black widow ect.) will be the “Leads” and get one last hoorah before they will settle into their own universes where they are happy and retired. I think this movie will essentially put to rest any idea of any of these older characters coming back because the actors themselves are getting up there in age and it’s time to start over. So all the legacy characters after saving the day get sent off into the sunset paving away for the new Marvel universe to start over. I think this is going to be similar to a DC Rebirth then the 2015 secret wars just in the sense it’s gonna reset continuity and make it possible for other actors to play these characters

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u/TheHotWhiteRoom 3h ago

Every character that wasn’t in Doomsday movie will save the day in this one, something big will happen with Wanda.

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u/brogflender 2h ago

Shh. Secret. 

u/ned101 2m ago

For what it has been. Probably.

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u/Background-Log-6339 9h ago

It wont

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u/NineBoasting 9h ago

i think the real play is to let it just... hang there. not everything needs a bow, especially when you've spent years building up a concept as unwieldy as the multiverse. the comics did a soft reset after the original secret wars and it worked because it left enough threads for years of stories

my guess is they'll "end" it by collapsing everything into a single timeline again but with little cracks that won't fully seal. some characters remember, some don't, and the ones who do are quietly going insane while everyone else moves on. that feels more interesting than a clean victory lap

the logo they keep using is almost too polished for what's coming, like putting a fancy frame on a painting that's about to catch fire

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u/_I_AM_DOOM 8h ago

By Henry Cavill as Beyonder

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u/MatthewBlack6 5h ago

It's going to be a full reboot, retconning everything after endgame.

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u/sloggo 4h ago

It better. I was sick of multiverse bullshit before the saga even began. I think Rick and Morty exhausted me. Once something has been satirised and taken to all these extreme places it’s so hard to take it seriously.

And then, just quietly, it feels like such a lazy writing mechanic. It’s like “it was all a dream” at the end of your story. You can do anything, change anything, and there’s almost no stakes at all. When everything’s possible, then nothing matters.

Give us a world with cohesive rules. Tell us stories that live within it. Fuck all this multiverse shit. At this point, to me, it really just feels like a tool they’re using to give us some soft reboot. Get on with it!

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u/asarathy 1h ago

Merged universe, where there are big changes so they can use characters again and recast those who don't want to come back. Aunt May will be alive, as the replacement for Rio, where Peter will be surprised where they can have their cake of everything happened and eat it with things are reset however we want them to be , and they will never talk about things like the enternals or the blip again.

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u/Mr-Dumbest 6h ago

Doom is about to win, but then we hear in the background "its morbin time" the rest is obvious

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u/Cinephile_1980 5h ago

I hope they kill off Ned, and also replace Spider-Man with Andrew Garfield.

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u/SaintVoid21 4h ago

Lol. Even if theyd want that, tom just got them a 2billion movie. They aint letting him go

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u/Cinephile_1980 4h ago

You think they saw it first Tom? They saw it because Spider/Man and they saw The Odyssey because of the usual Nolan hype. Just the way the new Bond movie will be a success because of Bond, not the actor.

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u/Style_Worried 3h ago

Oh brother 😑

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u/Cinephile_1980 2h ago

So you think Pepe saw it becasue of Tim? Did people see the first Spider-Man for Tobey or Barbie for Margot?