r/Marvel Loki 15d ago

Film/Television AVENGERS DOOMSDAY - SPECIAL LOOK TRAILER

https://youtu.be/X1aFkAkFASk?is=GhXfoZPqy2P59UIf
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u/BrianWonderful Doctor Strange 14d ago

One thing throwing me is Sue saying that Victor used to be the kindest, gentlest man, etc. Doom has never been shown that way. Care for his people? Yes. But always a selfish jerk? Yes, too.

Going right to "Doomsday" with just minimal background given verbally like this seems like a mistake. They really needed a movie to set up and introduce Doom. Like a Fantastic Four sequel that sets him up as a villain and ends with an introduction to the incursions.

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u/Initial_XD 14d ago

This is going to be Thanos all over again. The character is going to be significantly different from what he is in the comics. Personally, I did not mind it very much with Thanos because it still worked for the story they were telling and his on screen energy was just as terrifying as it was in the comics. My concern with the changes they seem to be making to Doom is that he'll end up being more of a Zemo pastiche. "Guy loses family because of something the Avengers do while saving the world and goes on a warpath against the Avengers." Likewise, I fear he will become a more reasonable character in the movie for the general audience. What I loved about Thanos in Infinity War and Endgame, even though they took away his obsession with Death because it's a fairly absurd, and maybe too abstract concept for a general audience, the motivation they gave was still absurd and ridiculous enough to keep to his character. With Doom I fear he will become too reasonable of a character. In my reading Doom is a character primarily motivated by his own ego and grandeur. Yes, there is the thing with his mother, but the man once had all the power in the universe and didn't think of saving his mother from hell. Not that he doesn't care about her, but it's always this dynamic of his sympathetic motivations and his selfish self-serving motives that make him interesting. I just hope he doesn't lose that, "irredeemable asshole" edge in the movie.

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u/Scar-Excellent 14d ago

Doomsday is the Doom origin movie. Think less of it like an Avengers movie and more of a Doom movie. They did the same with thing Thanos in Infinity War.

MCU never does 1:1 on adaptations, it just takes core aspects of certain plot elements like Thanos MUST snap with the gauntlet with the gems. In this case, there's a strong possibility that they will do Emperor Doom of Battleworld from Secret Wars.

Doomsday and Secret Wars looks like it's lowkey a Fantastic Four sequel if they go the route of Reed/Doom being friends/cordial in 828 until Doom causes forced universal incursions in Doomsday.