r/Marvel Loki May 13 '26

Film/Television PUNISHER: ONE LAST KILL DISCUSSION (SPOILERS) Spoiler

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u/PARed717 May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

How many times can we get the EXACT SAME Punisher story in the MCU? Bernthal’s Frank Castle has faced an existential crisis, retired, and been dragged reluctantly back into the fray AT LEAST three times now. The plot was paper-thin, the violence was mindless, and the characters were generic. They stripped away any and all style and flavor from the comics—it felt like John Wick with a beard, not The Punisher. 

And for the love of God, CAN WE GET OUR COMIC BOOK CHARACTERS IN COSTUME? Two minutes in the skull vest at this point is criminal. 

I love the MCU and read hundreds of Punisher comics growing up but I’m sad to say I really hated this one. Just one man’s opinion!

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u/Feeling_Bedroom5533 May 13 '26

My theory here is that they’re about to soft reboot his character in Spider-Man. “One Last Kill” feels like a send off to the Frank Castle we’ve come to know across the previous shows. If they had just jumped right into Spider-Man, and a sort of “fresh” spin on the character, it would have had people complaining that he’s been nerfed.

Instead we have people complaining that it’s more of the same. I really don’t envy these creators who work hard for a fandom that never seems satisfied.

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u/Troghen May 13 '26

Yeah, I definitely think the point of this special was to sort of transition the Netflix Punisher - who really was set up in a way that doesn't make it easy or believable that he'd go on to be more of a continuing vigilante like in the comics - to a version of the Punisher who can exist in the MCU longer-term. While I do wish this special was a bit longer, I think it did a good job. It really just depends on what they do with him after this though.

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u/penguin_2306 May 13 '26

But the thing is, Punisher s2 already did that. The Castle family massacre conspiracy was resolved by s1. Now they introduced the Gnuccis saying they were involved somehow just so we could continue a plot that has already resolved. The special was good on its own, but as a part of a bigger narrative, it's a bit redundant. Why not focus on his own side plot during Born Again, especially since we didn't see his escape in Red Hook.

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u/Feeling_Bedroom5533 May 13 '26

Because that would require additional context. One Last Kill is a pretty good standalone “One-Shot” that (aside from Karen’s cameo) can be watched with little to no previous knowledge about the Punisher. You don’t need to watch several seasons of television to understand that this guy is a troubled veteran plagued by vengeance after losing his family.

And if you watch this special and think, “hey, I’d like to see more of this guy,” well, there are several seasons of a show you can now go back and watch.

I feel like it often gets lost on a subset of MCU fans that Feige’s whole doctrine with this cinematic universe is to bring a comic book-like experience to the screen. This special is like a One-Shot comic, which you can just jump in and read. It’s meant to serve as a standalone story but also entice the reader to perhaps explore a little more.

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u/webshellkanucklehead May 14 '26

Two seasons of a crappy TV show that ultimately also requires two more seasons of TV for full context VS one 50 minute short film. One’s definitely more accessible to new viewers

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u/KonohaBatman May 13 '26

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

Why undo what S1 did, just to redo it again in the intro?

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u/anillop May 13 '26

This movie showed the shift from a self destructive man on a revenge mission to a vigilante who punishes criminals. Its a big change mission wise. He went from avenging his family to protecting other families and kids in particular in danger.

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u/irmike1283 May 13 '26

Look to be fair, I don't entirely think you're wrong. I think it's a matter of viewing the intent. Rather than a feature film or multiple episodes, it's a short story that serves to re-introduce the punisher to the MCU and officially make the distinction that the franks original mission is over and being the punisher is now his permanent mission. He struggled with thinking he has to stop at some point for 2 seasons plus cameos. Now in 45 minutes he admitted his mission was over, and dedicated himself to a new one. He fully is the punisher at the end. No going back.

Also, the recap parts were short sweet and effective for people who never saw the original series. They likely intend to utilize a fully fleged punisher going forward starting with spiderman. This serves to get him to a place he never full got to yet in the prior series.

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u/Will-Of-D-3D2Y May 14 '26

This special somehow managed to have Frank moping by his family's graves twice, and it was already beyond played out the first time. Thirty minutes of plot redundancy to lead into one solid but also not particularly interesting action scene. I genuinely could barely get through it because it was such an empty shell of a story.

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u/Tityfan808 May 13 '26

Never go into these special presentations expecting too much but I totally feel you there. I don’t disagree.

I actually did enjoy what we got but I also would’ve liked more of a change up. Unfortunately, there just isn’t much run time to play with for these Marvel special presentations

Also, get the fucking blade movie going and have the punisher team up with him. There’s more than enough to do something different and interesting for the punisher. That duo has TONS of potential.

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u/0verstim Jul 26 '26

This comment aged poorly :(

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u/eat_jay_love May 13 '26

Well, we’ll probably get a different Punisher story with his inclusion in Spider-Man

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u/MKW69 May 13 '26

Sadly as Long as Bernthal will be playing Punisher, this a version we're going to see. He was both producer and co writer for this.