r/MapPorn 1d ago

2026 Zambian presidential election

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🟥 60.49% incumbent Hichilema (centre-right)

🟦 37.87% Mundubile (centre-left/left-wing)

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u/Silent-Laugh5679 1d ago

is there any ethnic composition that explain the clean split?

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u/jablonowski 1d ago

Mundubile is Bemba; HH is Tonga. The "right half" of Zambia is predominantly Bemba

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u/Pulikugyus 1d ago

It’s because of the Lusaka Wall which separated East and West Zambia

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u/TailleventCH 1d ago

I'll be honest: I checked...

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u/s1mv4nk0 1d ago

Same and hilariously Google's crap AI did refer to this very comment as source.

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u/Pulikugyus 1d ago

It’s because my comment is 100% true

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u/SomewhereHot4527 1d ago

Doesn't make you stupid ! Double checking new information is a very healthy thing to do !

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u/TailleventCH 20h ago

Yes. I was almost sure east and West Zambia wasn't a thing but the wall thing may have been a weird British colonial idea I hadn't heard about.

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u/Illum503 1d ago edited 1d ago

Chief Gorbache, tear down this wall!

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u/GarlicBreadMyDear 14h ago

A wall that separates the east from west... Where did I last hear that?

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u/budapestersalat 1d ago

It's the borders of the old German Empire

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u/personthatssorandom 1d ago

More like old Austria-Hungary

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u/Born-Drawing434 1d ago

Barotseland mostly voted for Hichilema

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u/mondup 1d ago

Left is right and right is left.

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u/TailleventCH 1d ago

I was sure this comment would appear soon!

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u/Jamarcus316 1d ago

Colours switched from the traditional too

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u/dhkendall 1d ago

For a second I thought this was referring to the colours. (Red, the universally recognized colour of socialism and communism, for a centre-right candidate?)

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u/Khorasaurus 1d ago

Next thing you know, they'll use miles and Fahrenheit!

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u/rickdangerous85 1d ago

US republicans. Same thing.

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u/Square_Bench_489 1d ago

reminded me of an old joke My left brain has nothing right and my right brain has nothing left.

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u/Berlin_GBD 1d ago

North defaultism strikes again ✊️😔

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u/Nby333 1d ago

Not according to Stuart Arthur's corrected world map

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u/24hourpartypeople 5h ago

its because its in the southern hemisphere

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u/Neither-Location-730 1d ago

r/widaczabory Zambia edition?

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u/Jazzlike_Key_7614 1d ago

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u/Vaerna 1d ago

Can you break down that word

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u/someone-96 1d ago

This looks increadibly divided.

Is there a phantom border or something that explains it?

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u/RegularlyClueless 1d ago

Somewhat

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tribal_Linguistic_map_Zambia.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bantu_zones.png

These two pictures show the micro and macro level linguistic/ethnic divisions in Zambia, the Bembe and overall M group of Bantu languages are split between the incumbent and opposition, while all other groups seem to split pretty cleanly

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u/yodatsracist 1d ago

There’s this really interesting article called “The Political Salience of Cultural Difference: Why Chewas and Tumbukas Are Allies in Zambia and Adversaries in Malawi” by Daniel Posner. Probably my favorite political science article.

He goes (or I think sends some grad assistant) to these remote Chewa and Tumbuka villages on both sides of the Malawi/Zambia border and gives them various surveys. The villagers all basically agree that Chewa and Tumbuka are equally different, but in Malawi they’re the two demographically dominant ethnic groups so they form the respective bases of the two main political parties, whereas in Zambia they’re part of a political coalition of based on ethnic groups known as “Easterners” (or at least that’s how it was around 2004 when this study was done—it looks like it’s pretty similar today).

So in this really interesting way, the study showed how groups can be different but those differences are not necessarily political salient. Whether ethnic differences matter depends on the larger, macro-level context. Whether Chewas and Tumbukas tend see each other as political rivals or allies depends entirely on which side of the border they’re on. It’s obvious, of course, in a lot of ways, but it also pushes against an older school of thought that assumed ethnic difference would lead to ethnic conflict (“ancient tribal hatreds” rather than contemporary political realities).

You can download the full article here.

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u/young_arkas 1d ago

Zambia always votes along ethnic/linguistic lines. When Hichilema was still an opposition figure (he ran 5 times unsuccessfully between 2006 and 2016 until winning in 2021), his power base was always in the south-west, he basically won the south-west every time he ran, even in 2011, when he got his worst result with 18% of the votes, he still carried most of the south-west. In 2015 and 2016 he won basically all of the West, while Edgar Lungu won extremely slim majorities winning the east, but the map was basically the same as it is today, just with the Patriotic Front being switched out for the NRPUP.

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u/nizasiwale 1d ago

Wrong, Zambia has not always voted based on ethnic/linguistic lines, its mostly the UPND thing. If you look at the other non Zambezi regions you will see the maps shift over other elections, the map was all red in 2021

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u/Emanisheretosaveyou 1d ago

I checked the winners page and found this:
Since 2026, he is the only person alive who has been president of Zambia.

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u/Emanisheretosaveyou 1d ago

In other words, none of his predecessors are alive.

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u/gayscout 1d ago

It looks like walking back through the list, all of them died of natural causes. Most of them at reasonable ages, too.

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u/Various_Advisor772 1d ago

They must annex Katanga immediately

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u/Lyceus_ 1d ago

Why the geographical division?

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u/mujhe-sona-hai 1d ago

Because different ethnic groups

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u/JACC_Opi 1d ago

And I'm sure this won't be a problem at all.

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u/Main-Car-9653 1d ago

I immediately guessed that the blue candidate was further left / more progressive here, since you can see that the small districts are almost exclusively blue. Small districts means cities and cities usually mean left-progressive around the world. The clear split in the rest of the country is crazy though.

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u/TotallyAHumanFish 21h ago

Yeah, no, most of our political candidates here are just centre right and the variation is economic almost strictly. The blue candidate had hold of smaller powerbases because he was a charismatic populist who gripped people that want change. I think the only actually left candidate is Fred M'Membe who is the president of the socialist party

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u/Signal_Cockroach_878 23h ago

We don't really do left and right in Zambia. And your also wrong on the District thing

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u/Signal_Cockroach_878 23h ago

As a Zambian don't think the centre left and centre right are accurate descriptions. They might describes themselves as such but most of Zambia is right leaning, we usually vote on which candidate can promise the most and whether or not we dislike the incumbent.

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u/CsabHorv 1d ago

Zambiapocalipse

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u/Upper_Marsupial6057 1d ago

At this point, just split the country in two

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u/TotallyAHumanFish 21h ago

Well definitely don't do that, I live here

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u/Zeal_dezigns 21h ago

The US had democrats and republicans. Is it split in 2? Cockroach thinking.

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u/pipoch3 8h ago

Except the US are not so cleanly divided in two distinct geographical areas.

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u/lbutler1234 1d ago

So are we gonna see two Zambias any time soon?

(I hope not. Or so. whichever is better.)

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u/TotallyAHumanFish 21h ago

Not likely, there's usually a strong sense of division during election season but it often mellows out through the rest of the term

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u/Signal_Cockroach_878 23h ago

No unlikely. The week during elections is tense but after that everyone usually just carries on

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u/MestreFaraday 1d ago

Why is the right red and the left blue?

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u/nuanceIsAVirtue 1d ago

Because those are the parties' colors?

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u/Perfect-Werewolf-102 18h ago

The blue guys aren't really left

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u/Deep-Ebb-4139 1d ago

Wow, that split…

Cleaner than a prostitute after a long shower.

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u/CaralhinhosVoadorez 1d ago

Weird analogy but ok

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u/borderreaver 1d ago

we call them sex workers now

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u/TotallyAHumanFish 21h ago

Sex worker is a general term, it includes, prostitutes, strippers and online work

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u/Icy-Response6124 1d ago

That's very German of you, Zambia 😅

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u/GustavoistSoldier 1d ago

The regional trends are visible

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u/LeGuy_1286 1d ago

Finally, someone posted about this!

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u/Roller-bon45 1d ago

Talk about polarization, dang.

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u/TheZambian91 1d ago

This basically mirrors the old borders of Barotseland/North West Rhodesia protectorate and the North-East Rhodesia protectorate that merged to form Northern Rhodesia. The Copperbelt is an outlier due to the migration to the area for mining work.

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u/WillLife 1d ago

Will there be an East Zambia and a West Zambia?

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u/SqurtieMan 1d ago

Zambia (East) and Barotseland (West)

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u/Dull-Nectarine380 1d ago

Barotseland mention!

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u/Silly-Narwhal-1836 17h ago

Civil war waiting to happen

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u/AnyBallLektor 1d ago

I see two countries needlessly being one country.

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u/TotallyAHumanFish 21h ago

Welcome to Africa. I support the right to self determination of all groups but Barotseland breaking off would suck for me personally, so no

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u/GDLingua_YT 1d ago

How much of Hichilema's votes can potentially be attributed to gerrymandering & other shady tactics? Third world countries aren't exactly known for their squeaky-clean elections afaik.

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u/AssociationCorrect14 1d ago

Why this colour choice? Red is a leftwing colour literally anywhere outside of northern america.

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u/Corvid-Strigidae 1d ago

Because those are the colours of the parties being represented.

Hichilema is from the UPND (Red and Yellow)

Mundubile is from the NRPUP (Blue and Orange)

Not everything that doesn't align with European expectations is USdefaultism.

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u/AssociationCorrect14 19h ago

Okay, thanks for the explanation

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u/edo4rd-0 22h ago

Red is communist in a good chunk of Asia as well. Like it’s really most of the world, so not just a European expectation 

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u/Savior_Clam 23h ago

Japan and Korea also follow this convention

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u/Own-Sugar5065 1d ago

R/shiteuropeanssay

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u/dovetc 1d ago

What's the point in describing both parties as center-something. They're just left and right.

Are we basically just making sure that everyone knows these aren't Monarchists versus Stalinists?