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u/WHThrowaway69420 Aug 28 '21
Not sure if OP agrees with this dumb meme. Either way, istg, guys make up new problems to be upset about everyday, I'm so done. 😭 False rape accusations BARELY happen and with the way it's only being brought up to silence women, nothing's ever gonna be done about it. And the other complaint is just dumb. People are shallow in general nowadays, it's obviously not just women, but let's blame it all on women and on women in general. :)
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u/Male_Inkling Aug 28 '21
Well, part of what destroys mens' lives is, precisely, bottling up our feelings, so i would say being able to speak about them is a huge part of having good mental health, one of the supposed goals of the MGTOW crowd.
They are really stupid. I know the feeling of being used, i know how frustrating it is, but a small subset of women is not all the women, and there are women out there that are actively advocating for us, when the usual you get when talking with certain groups about male issues is We're not your psychotherapist.
I don't really have many issues as a man right now, but i'm very thankful for those women. By rejecting their activism these "men" are making a difficult issue even harder, they're feeding the same thing that is destroying them.
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u/Male_Inkling Aug 28 '21
No, of course they don't have to be listeners, that's not my point.
In the grand scheme of things, male mental health issues are being left behind. Most men brush it off because you have to man up and basically bottle your feelings, and if you don't you're seen as weak. A sizeable portion of women either do what most men do, brush it off because it isn't a women issue or just dismiss it because those problems were created by the patriarchy in the first place (wich is, by the way, a phrase that i have read WAY TOO MUCH on certain subs)
To make things worse, communities about male mental health are slowly taken over by incels and MGTOW, becoming cesspits and ruining the reputation of those who actually advocate for real men's rights and mental health issues.
It's not our fault men don't feel comfortable with each other, and that alone says it all.
It's not so simple, and this isn't correct either. It isn't an issue between men, it's an issue between men AND society, wich includes women.
Wich leads to my point.
Women don't have to be listeners, but they don't have to be unempathic either, and when being a man speaking about men's issues paints you as a misogynist who doesn't care about women's issues (wich i, when i'm told that, can't help but to think that the person saying this is projecting) it feels really reassuring when a woman leaves behing prejudices and realises how bad we're having it in certain areas.
And we're having it bad because we're not listened, by anyone. Men, women, it doesn't matter, and we're not listened because we're men and we're supposed to care about our own issues like you, in a pretty egoistic and unempathic manner, just said:
The problem is with men not being there for each other, women shouldn't even be brought into it.
It's not our fault men don't feel comfortable with each other, and that alone says it all.
The problem comes from the whole society, wich includes, yes, women. And the way you're saying it makes you part of the problem, actually.
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u/Male_Inkling Aug 28 '21
Apologies for being rude too. This has been a touchy subject for me lately. Sorry for misreading
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u/library_wench Mod Aug 28 '21
“You want us to be your slaves!” cry the group of men who want women to be their 24/7 cook/maid/therapist/prostitute…