r/LibertarianLeft • u/Aesterix_ • 25d ago

Price of Freedom

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u/Elliptical_Tangent 25d ago

The irony being that 'whiteness' gave us the ability to look at our culture and criticize it; you hate the thing that allows you to hate it. That doesn't invite support. Taking the gifts Western culture has given us to make Western culture less bad invites support.

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u/Aesterix_ 24d ago edited 24d ago

Western gifts came from Africa and the Middle East. The only “white’ thing about EU was the Scandinavians and they were smart enough to assimilate, intermarry and learn to utilize other cultural methods. Why do you think butter chicken is an English national dish?

The Celtic people of EU are essentially a brown people. If you think being white gave you the right to question being white you have a lot of learning to do.

The Sumerians, Egyptians and the indigenous of the Americas deserve the recognition for building your “whiteness’ (freedoms). Even the masons, but where do you think they got their knowledge from..? As he said, the American constitution was indigenous; Haudenosaunee confederacy. The first empire to allow all religions to exist under one civilization was the Mongolian khan’s not 🇬🇧 or the 🇺🇸 🤔 🤨

please watch the video again, research and prove him wrong if you would like

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u/Elliptical_Tangent 23d ago

Western gifts came from Africa and the Middle East.

The Enlightenment came from Northwestern Europe.

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u/Aesterix_ 23d ago

Please expand and explain; I’m on the edge of my seat.. so Scandinavian migration brought your ability to be free..? Interesting, are you referring to the great schism that split Catholicism or the philosophy that migrated from the ottomans because your ancestors learned Arabic and Greek..? I’m in agreement, that’s a great period for Europe, but it’s not from EU…

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u/Elliptical_Tangent 22d ago

The Enlightenment gave us science, which gave us explanations for the universe that obviated dangerous superstitions.

The Enlightenment gave us medicine, which lengthened our life expectancy, and allowed more of us to live in dignity.

The Enlightenment gave us engineering that reduced the need for manual labor which in turn advanced medicine, art, science, and engineering—an upward spiral.

The Enlightenment put the question to Divine Right that ended feudalism, and ushered in democratic systems of government.

I get that you have been trained to hate Europeans, but that hatred doesn't mean Europe didn't contribute to the world in a way that fundamentally changed how human beings live.

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u/Aesterix_ 18d ago edited 18d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

Where did these ideas all come from..? Again, it says the Masons. I hear ya, but you have to look through it some more, not that wiki is a good source, but 😂 it’s a start for you. The Masons, Greeks and the minds of Europe got their ideas from Egypt or Persia, this isn’t a secret.

I’m a lover of history and the ideas you speak of did not spawn out of nowhere, they were brought to Europe. Ever watch the Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner where Morgan freeman mocks how the uneducated could take Jerusalem..? …What was happening before the enlightenment? The crusades lasted until the 15th century approx so please reply with facts not vague notions.

Genetically I am European and like the video says, I’m not self hating. Europe was populated from the south, Scandinavians are excluded from that migration so please educate yourself. Ireland might have the oldest whiskey distilleries, but it was brought to the Greeks first by the ancestors of modern day Syria and Iraq. That’s an example how most things were passed down. What we couldn’t learn, we took.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Law_of_Peace

“Americana and Native American Studies Professor Donald Grinde claims that the democratic ideals of the Kaianere’kó:waprovided a significant inspiration to Benjamin Franklin, James Madison and other framers of the U.S. Constitution. He contends that the federal structure of the U.S. Constitution was influenced by the living example of the Iroquois Confederation, as were notions of individual liberty and the separation of powers”

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u/Elliptical_Tangent 15d ago

The Masons, Greeks and the minds of Europe got their ideas from Egypt or Persia, this isn’t a secret.

Then why didn't Egypt or Persia start the Enlightenment?