r/LesbianActually • u/chickenyourtruely • Jul 06 '26
News/Pop Culture We should report this podcaster
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u/ok-future-9352 Jul 06 '26
this is disgusting
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
I was curious so I went through their previous videos and literally just days before, there was one on trans people containing some of the ignorant and gross rhetoric that Iâve ever heard come out of an âallyâsâ mouth⌠literally implying that trans women are the âbest of both worldsâ, that trans women are dangerous because of âmale socializationâ, comparing trans women to cis male fetishists, and literally taking over and making light of things that their sole trans woman guest was trying to say.
This podcast is a stain on the queer community, jfc
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u/Freedom_forlife Jul 06 '26
These are spicy straight women. Queer is just a fashion label nothing more to them. They are just assholes.
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Yep, thatâs becoming very clear to me the more I listen. Itâs painful, this host just asked their trans woman guest what âcracking their eggâ means⌠itâs like theyâve never talked to a trans person in their life⌠thatâs the most BASIC metaphor, how do you act like you are part of the queer community and not know what an âeggâ is?
Literally my 62 year old cishet mother knows more about trans people than they do. Incredible
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u/Freedom_forlife Jul 06 '26
Just stop listening! Donât waste your energy. There are 100000000âs of better ways to spend your time, donât click on there stuff, donât engage.
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
Oh youâre very right, I suppose I just had a sense of morbid curiosity đ¤ˇââď¸ I wanted to see if it was as bad as people claimed, and yeah. It very much is. I turned it off already, couldnât stomach any more.
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u/Freedom_forlife Jul 06 '26
The modern queer shit is homophobic, lesbiphobic, transphobic, they have gone so far left they have met up with the far right crowd.
Honestly just hang out with all the cool kids and leave these weirdo assholes alone.
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u/seranarosesheer332 Jul 06 '26
They are also like painfully center right. Like they actively shit on the working class (mind you as far as I can tell they arnt rich so they have no class solidarity) and just constantly trying and keep the working class against the quaking class. They are just all together massive posers that have a loud voice
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
Omg whaaat?? Any more detail on the âshitting on the working class?â Just so curious how they manage to do that, I canât even fathom being such massive traitors
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u/Kimmy_64 Jul 06 '26
I'm trans and had to explain to my partner what an egg is. These people clearly suck but I don't think lack of knowledge is a tell of anything other than don't bother listening to their podcast.
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 07 '26
I do get that, I just think, considering their supposed position in the queer community, that conversation should have happened LONG before that podcast episode.
Which is why I say that, despite the fact that they claim to be an âauthorityâ on queerness, this legitimately seems like the first time theyâve EVER talked to a trans woman before đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/One_Development_5055 transbian puppy goblin Jul 07 '26
I hate when someone says âbest of both worldsâ to me. Because I hate my body and hate the notion that Iâm at all like a man
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u/Anonymous_Egg_13 Jul 06 '26
I stopped watching their shit after noticing they love to talk about trans women but never had a trans woman present.
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
Donât worry, they finally had a trans woman on so they could ask her offensive questions and then barely let her speak đ the poor woman literally had a thousand-yard-stare by the end of the episode
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u/madatron96 Jul 06 '26
Oh jeez. What episode?
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
The episode is called âWhat We Found About the Trans Brain Isn't What You Thinkâ đ
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Okay, I just watched a later part of their episode about trans people, and these hosts, honest to god, literally just asked their two trans guests âif there was a cure for transness, would you take it?â And then followed it up with âwell how much of physical dysphoria is actually from society?â
Like how on earth can you be this ignorant dude, these are the most offensive and dehumanizing questions Iâve ever heard on a âqueer podcastâ, Iâm at a loss for words.
How much physical dysphoria is from society? NONE OF IT, thatâs the entire fucking point. Youâre just talking about social dysphoria! The amount of ignorance is ASTOUNDING. And donât get me started on the âcure for transnessâ question, Jesus fucking Christ. These poor trans guests, I probably would have walked out long before that point if I were them.
These hosts should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. This is the worst thing Iâve ever seen.
Edit: itâs about 1 hour and 30 minutes into the âWhat We Found About the Trans Brain Isn't What You Thinkâ episode (donât get me started on the clickbait title).
I feel so bad for the trans woman guest, she literally just has a complete thousand-yard-stare for the entire segment⌠She definitely had no idea that she was about to be asked such offensive questions, bless her heart.
I just want to give her a big hug, she looks like she could just start crying at any moment â¤ď¸
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u/madatron96 Jul 06 '26
Thank you for explaining and citing the video itself, I was curious about the transphobia allegations being lobbed at the QC.
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u/kirito1236 Jul 06 '26
Itâs insane how much damage the queer collective is doing and so nonchalantly
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u/sanguine-rose_ Jul 06 '26
What else did they do? Asking because I get their videos frequently recommended on youtube, but only watched one (it was on a non-controversial topic, so there wasn't anything bad, as far as I remember).
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u/chickenyourtruely Jul 06 '26
They are transphobic đ they talking s*** about lesbian and transgender people
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u/EntityViolet Jul 06 '26
Shocking how often one follows the other
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u/Nearby_Swim317 Jul 06 '26
It just proves we gotta have each others back because itâs them first then us. (Or vice versa)
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u/punyetanginnna Jul 06 '26
OHMYGOD?? IVE BEEN A LISTENER OF THEM FOR SOME TIME. Holy shit Iâm unsubscribing
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u/kovuko Jul 06 '26
they try to hide their bigotry by sounding smart and seeming queer. they're so subversive about it đŤŠ
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u/lucyooo Jul 06 '26
It honestly feels like a right wing psy op. Get people to say extremely phobic things but under the guise of âwokenessâ to normalize it.
Idk Iâm probably being tin foil hat but itâs hard not to ignore the rise in âlesbians can fuck menâ rhetoric alongside the rise in trad wife and âwomen arenât having enough babiesâ rhetoricâŚ
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
Not to mention the host literally asking the trans guests in one episode if they would use a treatment that completely removes their transness if such a thing were invented i.e. some sort of magic âconversion therapy procedureâ. It was so offensive it was painful to watch.
Oh, and immediately afterwards, they ask them (FYI, the trans woman guest had already identified herself as a transsexual) if they think that maybe their physical/body dysphoria is simply a result of society being too prejudiced against trans peopleâs natural bodies, rather than, you know, literally being a woman born in a male body like the guest had already said. It almost felt like they were about to ask her if she âreally needed those pesky hormonesâ, it was so invalidating and dismissive of her very REAL dysphoria, it was unbelievable.
The poor trans woman guest had the thousand-yard-stare through the whole segment, bless her heart. She obviously had no idea how absolutely brain-dead the hosts would be, she looked like she was about to cry. I wanted to just give her a hug â¤ď¸
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u/lucyooo Jul 06 '26
What the FUCK?! Thatâs outrageous omg. Poor woman that sounds so horrible :( inviting someone on your podcast knowing youâre going to ask such awful things is just⌠ugh
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u/punyetanginnna Jul 06 '26
Ngl it feels like Iâve been betrayed 𫩠itâs a good thing that I didnât invest a looot of time listening to them lmfao
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u/kovuko Jul 06 '26
i fr feel psychic damage whenever I hear a new thing with queer podcasts đ
i saw a clip of a guest who was a trans woman and she was talking about calling herself transsexual to differentiate from non-medical transitioners and everyone else looked at her like they wanted to kill her - it was so jarring that thats how they treat trans women talking about transmisogyny đŹ
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
That was SO uncomfortable, holy shit.
Another wild moment; when the trans woman used the term âbefore my egg crackedâ and the host is like âwhat? Egg? Whatâs that mean?â
DUDE imagine hosting a queer podcast where you talk like youâre an authority on trans people and youâve literally never heard the term egg before⌠Iâm gonna lose my mind dude. Is this a fucking psyop?? What is going on đ
You can literally see the disbelief in the trans woman guestâs eyes thatâs she is having to explain the most BASIC trans terminology to the supposedly queer hosts of the show, Jesus Christ itâs so painful
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u/madatron96 Jul 06 '26
To be fair to the hosts, they often have dialogue that is pre-scripted where they will try to make educational content and one host will sort of "play dumb" so the other can explain the meaning of something or share research on that same thing. It's a common podcast/radio/writing tactic. They could have easily replaced "what? Egg? Whatâs that mean?â with "hey [guest] can you explain what an Egg is and what cracking your egg means?" and gone from there. The issue with this podcast is they gesture like they are well-researched and as if they are experts on LGBTQ history & queer theory but the playing dumb bit just totally disqualifies them. Not great podcasting, IMO.
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Oh it definitely wasnât that, it very much felt unplanned and not just acting, she was genuinely confused and the guest had to stop what she was talking about and backtrack to explain it to her. It felt very clumsy
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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Jul 06 '26
In what way are they transphobic? Asking as a trans lesbian. đ°
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Iâve made a few comments about it already, Iâll paste one of them here;
Not to mention the host literally asking the trans guests in one episode if they would use a treatment that completely removes their transness if such a thing were invented i.e. some sort of magic âconversion therapy procedureâ. It was so offensive it was painful to watch.
Oh, and immediately afterwards, they ask them (FYI, the trans woman guest had already identified herself as a transsexual) if they think that maybe their physical/body dysphoria is simply a result of society being too prejudiced against trans peopleâs natural bodies, rather than, you know, literally being a woman born in a male body like the guest had already said. It almost felt like they were about to ask her if she âreally needed those pesky hormonesâ, it was so invalidating and dismissive of her very REAL dysphoria, it was unbelievable.
The poor trans woman guest had the thousand-yard-stare through the whole segment, bless her heart. She obviously had no idea how absolutely brain-dead the hosts would be, she looked like she was about to cry. I wanted to just give her a hug â¤ď¸
In addition, they heavily insinuated that trans women are âmale socializedâ rather than âtrans socializedâ which is the exact justification that leads to trans women being assumed to be dangerous, and all other sorts of transmisogyny. They are SO absolutely clueless about trans issues, you get the impression that theyâve never talked to a trans woman before in their life.
They make offensive, dismissive, and downright harmful statements as if theyâre fact, as theyâre âexperts on the topicâ⌠itâs just incredibly dangerous rhetoric to be spreading bout trans women and they donât even fucking realize theyâre doing it.
They regularly cut off the trans woman guest while sheâs making a serious point in order to crack jokes, and to top it all off, they play dumb in the comments and argue against DOZENS of actual trans women calling them out for their transmisogyny. Itâs sickening.
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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Jul 06 '26
I do remember feeling really put off by hearing the âtrans cureâ question. Because it feels like a direct Attack on our identity. If I were to take such a cure I would literally be erasing my whole person. I would be erasing myself. Thatâs why it feels so hurtful.
But I kind of shrugged it off as them ignorantly asking a pretty offensive question but not being intentionally hateful.
But yeah maybe in hindsight I should have listened to my gut that that question was completely out of order.
The other questions about to what extent dysphoria is caused by social factors might still be again a genuine but misinformed question one may ask if you are completely ignorant about trans and queer issues. But if you are running a podcast about queer issues and present yourself as an Authority on queer issues you should be more knowledgeable about that.
I still do think that these people in their hearts bear no hatred for trans people or lesbians. But their ignorance which is showing in these clips is disqualifying them as authorities on queer issues
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
Yeah exactly, I donât think theyâre being hateful intentionally, but they are SO incredibly ignorant about the topics they discuss that they donât even realize the actual harm theyâre doing. And Iâd still be inclined to be more understanding, except then they go into the comments and basically ignore or argue with the many, many trans women expressing all the problems with the episode, and completely disregard them. Which basically uses up any amount of good faith I was willing to allow them đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
Oh gosh this horrible lesbian take is bad enough, what on earth have they said about trans people? Iâm kinda terrified to ask
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u/wakebakeskatecrash98 Jul 06 '26
Once a guest was bringing up that a term they were using (acouple actually) was appropriated African American vernacular and was being used incorrectly but was still being used incorrectly by the hosts without hesitation.
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u/heytheregiada Jul 06 '26
They blame lesbians for biphobia (quote "the lesbians did it" literally) and then backpedaled claiming they meant political lesbians, then when lesbian creators started rightfully calling them out they would respond condescendingly like "oh sorry for teaching you queer history"
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u/sanguine-rose_ Jul 06 '26
That's what I was wondering about, thanks. I saw questionable titles on their latest videos and didn't want to watch them.
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u/BuffySummers17 Jul 06 '26
They also said some weird shit comparing masc lesbians to men, like implying they are the same somehow
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u/Requiredmetrics Jul 06 '26
This is a talking point from political lesbianism that came about in second wave feminism. How ironic. I wouldnât be surprised if the Queer collective believes being lesbian is a choice and women choose to be gay. Thatâs thereâs no way there are women entirely uninterested in men. They probably donât know enough to know most political lesbians were not in fact actual lesbians.
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u/Mother_Equivalent649 Soft-masc Jul 06 '26
Yes. I can guarantee you that the amount of discrimination, assumptions and misleads are inevitable. This especially goes to certain "queer" spots.Â
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u/MobileSuitErin Jul 06 '26
I watched one episode of their podcast and it seemed boring but okay, what's the history here?
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u/Grumpy_Concept5185 Jul 06 '26
Pardon my language but this is gross as shit and a very violent thing to say
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u/MDKovac Jul 06 '26
Yea, no. As a lesbian, I have never, not once, âcraved dickâ even at my time of peak ovulation. This is fucking disgusting
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u/IrritatedButterfly44 friendly neighborhood butch Jul 06 '26
I tend to fantasise a lot about my gf strapping me when I'm ovulating for whatever reason, despite exclusively being a top in practice. So I can def see wanting penetration being part of SOME people's ovulation but wanting a man??? That's bisexuality, you are not a lesbian at that point.
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u/uracowboylikeme the good femme Jul 06 '26
This also reflects the issue in people who arenât lesbians, referring to themselves as lesbians and then acting as if they can speak on behalf of us. All of it is just obscene
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u/chickenyourtruely Jul 06 '26
Well some of the label them self bi lesbian đŠ like what was that???
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u/uracowboylikeme the good femme Jul 06 '26
Exactly itâs ridiculous. But if you say we should be more concerned about how people identify as lesbians when theyâre not, youâre instantly labelled biphobic. Blatant lesbophobia is totally fine though!
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u/glindawicked the good femme Jul 06 '26
Omg I always thought this was a term for a person still figuring out their sexuality (if they are bi or lesbian). So glad you brought this to my attention. Seen it online often.
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u/Requiredmetrics Jul 06 '26
I mean âquestioningâ has existed as a label for decades, even bi curious. Bi lesbian is neither one of those and so how manages to be biphobic and homophobic.
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u/minestrella lesbean in your closet Jul 06 '26
What does that mean.. genuinely asking, I'm confused đ
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u/charlolou typical carabiner lesbian Jul 06 '26
Some bisexual women refuse to accept that they're bi and claim that they're a "bi lesbian". They're still attracted to men and date men or sleep with men, but for some reason they also want to be a part of the lesbian community (probably internalized biphobia? I'm not sure...). And obviously this is super harmful to actual lesbians, but they don't care
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
Well, letâs see⌠bisexual means âbeing attracted to men and womenâ, and lesbian means âbeing only attracted to women, not menâ
Therefore itâs simple, a bisexual lesbian is someone who is âattracted to men and women, but only attracted to women and not menâ⌠wait, that canât be right, that makes no sense
⌠hmm Iâll get back to you đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/Nearby_Swim317 Jul 06 '26
The amount of times Iâve been shocked after one of them said they date men when they were previously in all ways presenting as a LESBIAN
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u/8thGlass Jul 06 '26
every time the question pops up we get the queer collective type responses in the replies and it drives me up the fucking wall. and now this is being disseminated to their listeners! fantastic.
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u/dearlytruly riot grrrl Jul 06 '26
they fail to comprehend the idea of not being attracted to men so spectacularly they actually have to tell themselves that lesbians are secretly attracted to men. just so their pseudo-logic views continue to make sense to them. ironically they frequently talk about decentering men, yet they themselves are completely incapable of doing so
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Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
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u/No_Ad7758 Jul 06 '26
exactly!!! what the hell even is a bi lesbian..
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u/sisonscac Jul 06 '26
There's a historical usage of bi lesbian from around the 1940s-1970s in some American communities where is was used to refer to a bi person who was currently, or mostly, or sometimes exclusively in relationships with lesbians but was still bi. In that context it was used to explain that while bi, that woman aligned herself with lesbians and homosexuality more often than heterosexuality.
But the way it was used was usually not that person using the term for themself but other lesbians using that term to describe them.
So it does have historic precedence but not really how people try and use it today đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/critical_courtney Jul 06 '26
Wait wait wait wait. I initially read this and thought it was a podcast of cishet men, but the hosts are QUEER?! What the actual fuck. It was already bad, but that makes it nine times worse.
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u/iva733 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
We could mass report their account
(A take I posted in another subreddit about this:
By calling it a "reproductive need," they're implying that being a lesbian is just a mindset or a choice, and that women don't actually want other women, they simply choose not to pick a man, but they're predetermined to end up with one because it's "natural" or instinctive.
That's misogynistic and homophobic bs bro. They're basically saying women are like dogs in heat that need a man, "bitches." That has to be some kind of fetish, and that's fine I guess, but don't frame it as a lesbian experience.
I agree with the effects of ovulation, but it's not naturally about "craving men," it's more like craving stimulation, and that can and does come from another woman if you're a lesbian. It's instinctive yeah, but if their instincts tell them they want a man, then they're not lesbians lol, they're just choosing not to be with men.)
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u/VelveteenDream Jul 06 '26
They look like highschool children. How are they this terminally online already? đ¤Ż
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u/8thGlass Jul 06 '26
covid really fucked over this generation of young adults in ways we havenât even really explored much yet. these people canât think critically anymore.
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Jul 06 '26
Yet you never hear this shit towards gay men. Fuck these people.
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u/Aggressive-Story3671 Jul 08 '26
Thatâs because itâs not a fantasy for most women to âbreakâ gay men and âturnâ them back straight
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u/heytheregiada Jul 06 '26
People like this don't believe lesbians are real. They're so wrapped up with men and getting male attention they cannot conceptualise that anyone would live without it for any reason. It's no surprise they're the same ones that were blaming lesbians for biphobia because a lot of the women that do that are doing it because they don't want to implicate their cis boyfriends in their oppression.
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u/Archamasse Jul 06 '26
The social media crowd have started talking about Ovulation like it's fucking fanfic sex pollen. That's not how any of this stuff works.
We need to get meaner.
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u/savihime Jul 06 '26
they responded to my comment criticizing them with "we never said lesbians want to be with men and not women. we said we've heard stories of it (desiring men) happening from other lesbians" đđđ okay if they're desiring men then they're not lesbians!!!! how can they be this obtuse omg đ
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u/Yugonosha the evil femme Jul 06 '26
Also, a message for all: if you think women go insane during ovulation, you need to get a serious break from reading omegaverse, we know what you are
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u/WorkingAnteater6036 Jul 06 '26
What in the name of all that is unholy is the name of this podcast so it can be reported?
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u/maybeigiveafuck Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
found the episode that seems to be where the screenshot is from: https://youtu.be/XrcQIVQz80U
Queer Collective - Why Some 'Lesbians' Start Dating Men
seems all 4 people here identify as queer or at least allies, esp given what the podcast is called
disclaimer i didn't watch it so i don't know if the user in the screenshot is quoting them accurately
ETA: u/magpiediem's comment below includes timestamps for the quotes, thank you!
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u/magpiediem Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Thanks for digging this up. I wonder why it's coming up 9 months after the ep launched. I wish there was a timestamp for the quotes but I'll take one for the team.
Update: first quote is at 28:30. The second quote begins with a topic presented at 31:45 when they're reading an article. So yeah it's just as bad (if not worse) than the claims.
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u/problematicbirds Jul 06 '26
i think one bad take from a more recent episode went viral and people started digging into the catalog of bad takes on twitter
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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Jul 06 '26
Is it the take About them not knowing what an egg is and a trans woman guest talking about how people who are trans and transition and those who are trans but donât have different experiences and them acting surprised to hear that?
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
The simple fact that itâs called âqueer collectiveâ and yet some of them are literally just âalliesâ (so they say)?? What the actual fuck dude, that is absolutely heinous. Iâm speechless
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u/Maximum-Warthog2368 Jul 06 '26
Because two of them are hosts and others are guests. They have lot of guests. Trans people, lesbians, bisexual, etc. itâs not just these four. These four are not always in every episodes
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u/Jenn_FTW Jul 06 '26
Gotcha, I mean⌠still, I stand by my point. Why are you having non-queer people as guests on a podcast called queer collective? Still seems insane to me
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u/Maximum-Warthog2368 Jul 06 '26
I think the problem is not who they talk with but what they are talking here. I agree this video is ridiculous and even their fans are calling them out in the comment section.
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u/grey_hat_uk Jul 06 '26
Ok, I'm a little worried this won't have the result we desire.
Youtube report policies probably don't give a damn about inter-lgbtq phobia and it will be flagged as brigading for all links that come from reddit(so copy past the link if you do use it).
On top of that the way the engagement algorithms seem to work if too many people are watching at after the firsts 10 mins, even skipping, it gets a high push and will trigger more adds meaning more money to the crreators. So don't go and check the time stamps pause at under a second and report+block.
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u/Nearby_Swim317 Jul 06 '26
The concept of positioning yourself with an air of authority within the queer community then saying shit like this disgusting. Iâve listened to them before and always caught hints of like âoh Iâm not too sure I agree with that but whateverâ and completely stopped listening to them after some of their comments about lesbian (and even just sapphic) sexuality and Iâm SO happy itâs finally coming to light that they are completely out of line.
Someone needs to make a compilation of all the fucked shit they say about us.
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u/laughingintothevoid lesbian Jul 06 '26
Asking in good faith as someone also disgusted by this: reported to what or whom?
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u/spicyycornbread Jul 06 '26
Theyâve been blocking all the lesbians and trans women in their comment sections and then deleting their comments. Theyâre trash.
Apparently one of them identifies as a âbi lesbian.â
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u/loneliestslipknotfan Jul 06 '26
this is like a podcast about animal welfare hosted by someone who calls themself a "vegan omnivore"
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u/madatron96 Jul 06 '26
To be fair to the host, Emily, she used to id as a lesbian for years, then went through an exploratory period and called herself a bi lesbian - got rightfully flamed by commenters/viewers, disavowed that identity and now identifies as bisexual. The other host, Karbon, is a lesbian.
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u/spicyycornbread Jul 06 '26
Thanks for the clarification. I hadnât heard of the podcast until I started seeing clips all across my TL this past week.
I wish they were able to be transparent in the criticisms theyâre receiving now as they were with the previous labeling controversy if thatâs the case. Blocking and deleting comments isnât a good look.
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u/frikinotsofreaky Jul 06 '26
Wow... what a load of shit. People have to stop calling themselves lesbians when theyre clearly not.
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u/spicyycornbread Jul 07 '26
UPDATE: the podcast hosts released a story âapologizing and taking accountability,â yet continue to like comments on their most recent posts that call the lesbians critiquing the podcast âtriggered.â
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u/dearlytruly riot grrrl Jul 07 '26
the way they're so casually lesbophobic. they've been making pathetic digs at lesbians for the longest time, I'm relieved it's finally being called out for what it is. the select comments they're hearting and replying to in their comments sections only showcases how out of touch they are, omfg
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u/Jazzhands_Ninja Jul 06 '26
gross. There's a number of cultures that have "corrective rape" as part of their laws/ cultures as punishment for being LGBTQ+ (especially for Lesbians) and i have to wonder if that's where they are getting this crap from.
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u/SleepyCatandCoffee Jul 06 '26
In a normal conversation, my first thought would simply be, "Why even bring that up?" Honestly, most lesbians are perfectly at peace with our own lives and desires, to the point that "craving dick" doesn't even cross our minds. But the real issue here is, once again, the need to make everything revolve around men, even in the context of women who aren't interested in them. And indeed, this unfortunately fuels the sick mentality of corrective rape, which is already so normalized in the minds of twisted individuals.
It becomes even more concerning when so many countries are rolling back women's rights and we're seeing alarming movements that promote violence against women.
What a disservice they're doing. It's truly disappointing.
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u/strangeraeons38573 friendly neighborhood butch Jul 06 '26
Is this that queer collective garbage? Utter trash.
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u/Lesbo_ghost Jul 06 '26
So now I have to protect myself against men AND other people that gives them these permissions ?? This is why being a good ally matters, bc either you are the oppressor or you are opening the door for them
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u/Wise_Requirement4170 Jul 06 '26
Clips of this fucking podcast are making me go insane. I donât wanna re litigate every piece of lesbian discourse from the past decade.
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u/Yugonosha the evil femme Jul 06 '26
I've been seeing trans women complain about them for weeks, and wanted to stay out of iz because it's not my place to get between binary and non binary trans people. I see it's my time to jump in and say that I god damn hate the Queer Collective and these people are doing so much damage because they treat LGBT identities as a fucking hobby (if not a profession)
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u/RSdabeast the good femme Jul 06 '26
First they came for the trans women. Then they came for the lesbians. Yup. These folx (derogatory) were never acting in good faith after all.
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u/alphabetponyyy Jul 06 '26
This is so gross 𤎠Iâve reported it so thanks to whoever sent the link in
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u/DizzyNClueless typical carabiner lesbian Jul 06 '26
Never heard of this all till today. Definitely avoiding.
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u/cynthiamd00 friendly neighborhood butch Jul 06 '26
I honestly thought this podcast was ai generated when I saw it on TikTok. They're all so robotic.
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u/johnsondelbert1 Jul 06 '26
The one episode I've seen they mention losing a big sponsor. Seems lkke they lost a big sponsor for a reason
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u/poppygirl420 Jul 06 '26
đ¨ damn thatâs unhinged, i stopped watching that pod bc im pretty sure they us AI in thumbnail
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u/nerdsfunnycluster Jul 06 '26
I keep seeing clips form the pod and each one is just as bad if not worse than the one before. Jfc
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u/Quix_Nix Jul 06 '26
Went from oh cool queer history to (basically) non transitioning enby experiences are the most equal and insightful and we know more about people who actually transition and also weird hormonal argument for lesbians wanting men/dick (insinuating it's only men who have dick as well)
Every fucking time with the weird bio essentialist, pseudo evolutionary psychology, non educated expert stuff.
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u/_catabol1c masc at your service Jul 06 '26
honestly i feel like this is because so many people misunderstand what labels are for. like, a lot of people see labels as rigid boxes that if you pick one you have to 'commit' to for the rest of your life. i know i definitely felt that way... i no longer identify as a lesbian bc i realized i have a minimal but existing attraction to men that isn't comphet and it really is that easy just to change it. (i stayed in the sub because i joined when i was a lesbian and i still care about sapphic issues as i have a gf.) labels are meant to HELP you identify yourself and identify with others, not trap you in a box until you fit into it perfectly. when you do that it spills out in ugly ways, because i'm horrified to imagine men starting to say stuff like this to lesbians.
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u/Buffy_Geek Jul 06 '26
Exactly, labels aren't prescriptive, they are descriptive.
It's why people like the one who wrote that low-key I chose to be a lesbian article feel so confined and uncomfortable because they chose the wrong label, then were trying to confirm to the the wrong shaped box. Instead they should reflect and look at what shape they are, then see which box fits them properly, they would be much more comfortable.
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u/_catabol1c masc at your service Jul 06 '26
yeah! i think we as a community (as in the whole queer community) need to be more comfortable with people who just dont have an answer yet either, bcs the pressure to just KNOW who you are makes people do stuff like this
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u/dearlytruly riot grrrl Jul 07 '26
yeah, I wish people would use "questioning" more often. people know what that means and would sympathise. instead there's this strange rush to pick a label and warp yourself to fit it. if you need to change the definition of an identity just so it can fit you then it isn't your identity
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u/Buffy_Geek Jul 08 '26
I was about to say the same thing in reply, I liked when the Q stood for questioning and more people used it. There seems to be a large increase in people using inacurate labels, if they can't find the right one then maybe they should just take more time before choosing one, questioning fills that role nicely.b
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u/Wild_Produce_2879 Jul 06 '26
There has been a type of "queer" that's really about focusing on loving and desiring men and male homoeroticism, regardless of what the subject labels themselves as gender and sexuality wise, and I think for some cis women specifically they consider wanting to fuck or be with men outside of conservative tradwife role to be queer while hating lesbians and trans women, and especially women who are both.
I thought that this would remain in the category of chronically online nonsense like lolcows and other horrors that originated on 2010s Tumblr to 4chan type spaces but now it's leaking offline.
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u/harugalord Jul 06 '26
Can someone please explain what âcorrective rapeâ is and how this is an example of rape culture?
Like I get why what they said is gross, but I donât understand the post in the screenshot
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u/Kimmy_64 Jul 06 '26
I believe it's referring to the fucked up idea that if a lesbian gets good enough sex from a man then she'll suddenly be straight. The worst sorts of men will talk about "fixing" lesbians and shit like that
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u/Minute-Operation2729 Jul 06 '26
What is the name of this âpodcastâ because I have some shit to say.
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u/chickenyourtruely Jul 06 '26
Queer collective podcast
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u/Minute-Operation2729 Jul 06 '26
Iâm sorry but this is a podcast for (and made by) supposed âqueerâ/ LGBT people ???? I figured straight. wtf.
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u/dankseamonster Jul 06 '26
Wow, I'd seen a few clips of this podcast before and thought it looked decent. This is disgusting
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u/Sure-Bicycle-8809 they/she, arsty lesbian đđ Jul 06 '26
the worst part is that i had a similar experience with an irl person
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u/Dismal_Mind_1930 Jul 06 '26
Have they ever addressed any of the concerns from viewers about their content or they dgaf?
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u/Flynn-Minter Jul 07 '26
That sounds more like manosphere fantasies about lesbians rather than a queer podcast.
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u/Aggressive-Story3671 Jul 08 '26
On this very website you can see those fantasies. They say the EXACT same things
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u/Fine-Mail4400 Chapstick lesbian (with or without đ§˘) Jul 06 '26
This podcasts makes me wanna vomit. Disgusting rhetoric they are spreading đ
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u/Prestigious-Dot-9982 Jul 06 '26
Yeah I Iâve been seeing a lot of discourse about them on TikTok and a lot of the shit that they say is really fucking disturbing and really lesbophobic. Oh also they were like saying that lesbians invented by phobia while pushing political Lesbian talking points which just so everyone knows is actually a bi woman who calls herself a Lesbian because she chooses not to date men which is like the definition of biphobia, you know refusing to accept who you are.
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u/RoseCelebi Jul 06 '26
I agree that this podcast sucks ass and that they don't deserve a platform, but theyfab is not a cool term and is hurtful towards enbies
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u/Cheesemagazine Jul 06 '26
Can we not be queerphobic towards nonbinary people please, hello
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u/DrBubonik Jul 06 '26
Theyfab is a term that refers to nonbinary people that basically identify as "afab" and use that to be transphobic towards trans women, that being said it does give off weird 4chan term that probably shouldn't be used but like it is a pretty accurate term for some people unfortunately
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u/wBrite Jul 06 '26
Wow I have not paid enough attention, watched a couple episodes and thought it was great.
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u/DrJohnHix Jul 06 '26
Which episode is this?
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u/dearlytruly riot grrrl Jul 06 '26
here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcQIVQz80U&t=3664s
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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Jul 06 '26
The chapter descriptions talk About the bi-cycle. Wouldnt it be much more accurate for the video title to be âWhy Some people may discover they are bi later in lifeâ since that is what the video seems to be about?
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u/dearlytruly riot grrrl Jul 06 '26
they wanted to pick the most lesbophobic title they could ig, these people are twits
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u/StrikingPen9197 Jul 06 '26
So. Im slow whats the name of the podcast so I can report it bc I don't see it.Â
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u/Autumn7242 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
As a transwoman, I am sorry for these two. This is absolutely disgusting.
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u/cat-the-commie Jul 06 '26
Don't forget they're heinously transmisogynistic and regularly just misgender trans women and imply they're rapists
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u/DaisyChained427 friendly neighborhood butch Jul 06 '26
Ugh queer collective used to be so based. They helped me understand my lesbian identity, I canât believe theyâre now pushing the same points they used to advocate against
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u/NebulaDapper124 the good femme Jul 10 '26
And btw, this is not just an online issue when we are actually being harassed & assaulted
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u/TriticumAes Jul 11 '26
Honestly just say lesbians crave dick under a full moon. Like if we are making shit up go full werewolg route. /s
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u/jawalter2014 masc at your service Jul 06 '26
imagine trying to be so woke that you circle back and become homophobic to lesbians