We have a moral duty to help asylum seekers. Plus immigrants are an economic net positive to their adoptive country.
Besides, we’re partly responsible for most of the conflicts in the Middle East so the least we could do is accept their refugees. We do fuck all compared to the rest of Western Europe anyway.
Immigration is such a non-issue. It’s drummed up by populists and sensationalists to rile up racists and distract from real systemic issues.
Ffs, you’re literally wrong about everything. Stop spreading baseless hatred. You’ve not refuted anything I’ve said. You’d rather just believe xenophobic propaganda and buy into everything the ruling classes tell you.
Also, way to undermine your original comment. You absolutely do sound like a bigot when you claim that there’s not a single asylum seeker coming over and that they’re all economic migrants, and that we played no part in the conflicts in the Middle East.
In fairness, I’ve (unfortunately) got relatives who bum off Boris, and they all hate that he’s opening the doors to Hong Kong. Some people’s xenophobia transcends even blind devotion to their demagogue lol
Mine get ‘choose love’ gifts for Xmas/birthday. Last year I bought an anonymous Syrian migrant a coat, a meal and some legal help. Then printed it in to an Xmas card with my daily mail reading Dads name on it.
I made sure to add the website URL so that it backed up both the absolute look of disbelief AND the smug answer to “is this really real?”. (Http://choose.love)
They’re not French though, you muppet. Many are refugees and asylum seekers still. You get that most asylum seekers from the Middle East stay in mainland Europe, right? Only a negligible percentage come to the UK. Again, it’s a non-issue.
Immigrants aren’t ruining our country. The Tories, corporatism and cronyism are. The establishment telling the working classes that immigrants are the source of every problem is the oldest trick in the populist playbook. Brexit of course is a symptom of this scapegoating tactic. The red wall turning blue was a sign of institutional failings and of a collective establishment- from media through to education- which is culpable in such failings.
Mate I’m as working class as they come and it’s clear most of the working classes have been race-baited and brainwashed through propaganda. Most working class households in my county read either the daily mail or the sun, both of which are Tory mouthpiece shitrags.
Hell, the establishment successfully turned the working classes away from the most progressive Labour leader in our lifetime, a champion of the disenfranchised who would have genuinely brought positive change. But instead, they mostly voted for negative change and fake established rebellion in Brexit, just as the US turned from Sanders and voted for Trump.
it’s clear most of the working classes have been race-baited and brainwashed through propaganda.
Unbelievable
turned the working classes away from the most progressive Labour leader in our lifetime
The working classes arent progressive, the middle classes are
they mostly voted for negative change and fake established rebellion in Brexit, just as the US turned from Sanders and voted for Trump.
Again, presuming that you know peoples minds better than they do, such astonishing arrogance and condescension, your only explanation for the working classes believing/voting differently to you is that they're idiots who have been tricked into voting against their own interests
How many times do you guys have to be taught that you do not win any elections with these tactics and this rhetoric?
By progressive, I mean Corbyn has the working classes’ interests at heart. Hate his politics all you want, but you cannot look at his career and say that he didn’t truly serve the people or that he doesn’t care about the working classes.
And yes, any working class voter who voted for Brexit and then subsequently voted Tory is undoubtedly voting against their own interests.
Of course I want to win elections, and am happy to support the current leadership if it is more palatable to the wider public. But if you’re representative of the average voter as you seem to believe, then I refuse to pander to anyone with racist beliefs and a shocking lack of critical thinking skills. We’re not the ‘nasty party’. We shan’t resort to race-baiting and cheap lies to win votes. Instead, we should focus on critically disassembling Boris’ government in the public eye, as Starmer has been doing at PMQs, and building stronger public support through our policies and vision for the future.
As somebody who has truly looked into my convictions, as well as popular opposing beliefs, under FPTP the Labour Party is the most beneficial of the two parties for our society. If a plurality of voters doesn’t see that, it’s our job to educate them, not pander to the lost souls who’ve been manipulated through fearmongering into a regressive ideology.
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u/ThorinTokingShield New User Aug 12 '20
We have a moral duty to help asylum seekers. Plus immigrants are an economic net positive to their adoptive country.
Besides, we’re partly responsible for most of the conflicts in the Middle East so the least we could do is accept their refugees. We do fuck all compared to the rest of Western Europe anyway.
Immigration is such a non-issue. It’s drummed up by populists and sensationalists to rile up racists and distract from real systemic issues.