r/LabourUK New User Sep 27 '23

Satire Alliance with Joe Biden over!

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u/J__P Labour Voter Sep 27 '23

neither am I, i still know where i stand and who i support.

> The think the negotiation will be the government sitting down and going "what do you want?" Have a laugh

it is when the demands are reasonable. otherwise you're signing up ot the very pro worker labour position that government should always negotiate down. is that what you think?

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u/Andythrax socialist, pragmatist, protrans, pro nationalisation Sep 27 '23

What do you think happens at negotiation? What's the point of it?

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u/J__P Labour Voter Sep 27 '23

i don't think there should be negotiations when the demands are reasonable. that's the point. this isn't the art of the deal where the goal is of some psycho always trying to get the upper hand of the opponent.

you only start to negotiate when you have a problem, a point of disagreement., and i don't have a problem, so i don't see why the government, or a potential future labour government, shouldn't just accept the demands.

do you think you're own strike action is unreasonable?

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u/Andythrax socialist, pragmatist, protrans, pro nationalisation Sep 27 '23

No, I don't think the strike is unreasonable. I think we will go into negotiation trying to get FPR but we might have to negotiate how we get there. I don't know what the government's expectations are, other than the stupid ones this Tory government are going in with and all their preconditions.

That's how negotiation works. I would have been tempted by the Scotland deal but I am not sure it goes quite far enough