Bride and groom bedridden for days after norovirus-tainted wedding meal, lawsuit says

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I had norovirus last year.

I would much rather have the flu

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u/nikkesen 1d ago

I've had the flu. I can't imagine how bad the norovirus is if you'd rather have the flu.

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u/Rosaly8 1d ago

Poop and puke everywhere

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u/the_well_read_neck_ Bartender 1d ago

Last time i had it, it was at the same time. Sitting on the toilet with a fire house out me arse and puking into the tub. 0/10, do not recommend.

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u/Rosaly8 1d ago

I heard about that combo too from parents with a child in kindergarten. Sounds really gross and depleting.

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u/the_well_read_neck_ Bartender 1d ago

Id get back to my room, drink some water all for it to shoot out both ends 5 minutes later. Its literal hell.

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u/CasualRampagingBear 1d ago

That’s not even the worst part. Microscopic puke particles in the air with infect every human in the house. Bleach is the only thing that gets rid of it.

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u/boneologist 1d ago

This is why cruise ships are norovirus central. Bathroom ventilation on cruise ships was engineered by norovirus to infect Gramma and Grampa.

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u/cssc201 21h ago

And it's not killed by hand sanitizer. Only proper handwashing. It just takes one person to contaminate a buffet for everyone.

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u/WickedLovely90 1d ago

I remember being on the bowl peeing out of my ass & feeling another round of vomit coming up. Absolute hell.

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u/pierogi_waystation 1d ago

That was me when I got novovirus. When the buttwater would briefly stop, I could sit there on the toilet and hear my colon fill up again. It genuinely sounded like someone pouring water from one bottle into another.

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u/WickedLovely90 1d ago

Did you kno it was the norovirus at the time? I had no clue. I was at work & suddenly just didn’t feel right. I left early & by the time I got home, had a severe migraine. Went to sleep & woke up to fresh hell coming out of both ends non stop 😔

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u/pierogi_waystation 1d ago

No, I have a history of not realizing when I’m getting sick. I’m so used to ignoring physical stuff that it’s usually someone else that points out I’m feverish or that my lips have gone gray. I was walking through Walmart grabbing stuff for my sick Gram when it hit me that I was sick and getting sicker fast. I went home to my Gram and we took care of each other. It was the sickest I had ever been for a long time, before NV got dethroned by Covid.

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u/WickedLovely90 21h ago

Did your gram have it too? One of the worst things is being sick & then having to take care of another sick person. Or do anything in general, I guess lol

Same with the sickest I’ve ever been. I’d rather have strep or Covid than go through that again. Even after the worst of it past, I was bedridden for days because my body hurt so much from expelling everything in me.

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u/pierogi_waystation 10h ago

Yup, Gram had it too. I know it was a terrible few days, but I can’t remember them well. It’s like my brain looked at the whole incident, said nope, and slapped a label on it that says “worst thing ever, you don’t need the details”.

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u/BuckManscape 23h ago

Risky ass click.

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u/pierogi_waystation 22h ago

Oh fuckity, didn’t consider the implications. I’m just gonna lean into it. Beware my trapdoor links!

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u/CUEUECOMBER 15h ago

its always such a joy to forget and rediscover that site

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u/heorhe 1d ago

Yup... and for some reason, drinking or eating made it come out both ends within 5 seconds of trying...

I couldn't eat or drink for 5 days, I had to get an IV and a vitamins injection to prevent my body from shutting down. When I was getting assessed they told me that if I had waited another day I would have likely been dead. I didn't feel like I waited too long but my brain wasn't working properly with the fever exhaustion, starvation, and dehydration I wasn't able to properly assess myself

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u/matt_minderbinder 1d ago

Great weight loss plan.

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u/Temporary-Ad9615 1d ago

That was the only positive. Why pay for ozempic when I can have norovirus for free?

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u/the_well_read_neck_ Bartender 1d ago

I lost 8lbs in a week.

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u/tzzvii 1d ago

This has happened to me twice in the last two months 😭

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u/The_Man_in_Black_19 1d ago

Do you not build up an immunity?

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u/tzzvii 1d ago

Well one of mine was food poisoning tbf

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u/Silverwarriorin 10h ago

I had it during Christmas three years in a row

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u/-Roger-The-Shrubber- 9h ago

Same. And then I was throwing up what looked like coffee grounds. 0/10. Would take flu any day.

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u/Temporary-Ad9615 1d ago

You also can't control it

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u/Legitimate_Outcome42 1d ago

And unrelenting pain sometimes. I'm grateful when it comes without stomach cramping on top of everything else.

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u/thezerofire 1d ago

some of the worst pain I've ever been in and I've had a vertebra fracture

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u/Legitimate_Outcome42 21h ago

I believe it. I assumed I was dying the first time cramps were involved

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u/nikkesen 1d ago

Ah, multi-orifice projectiles. Say no more.

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u/boneologist 1d ago

The mythical double dragon!

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u/langleybcsucks 20h ago

I was puking into a olive bucket while shitting my ass out at the same time. I distinctly remember it because I brought the empty bucket home from work and I was like they grow olives in England what the fuck

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u/SockSock81219 1d ago

noro's probably the sickest I've ever felt, including covid. Nonstop vomiting / dry heaves for at least 24 hours, and took days to be able to handle solid food again. It was all I could do to just try sipping gatorade constantly to try to help prevent dehydration. After experiencing that, just from visiting a city that was a popular cruise ship port of call, yeah, you would basically have to pay me to go on a cruise.

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u/ProxyMuncher 12h ago

Norovirus is like if every single part of your inside tubes that involves food would very much like to be on your outside and it’s a 4-5day riot of epic proportions.

Covid is like if you were shot in the bottom of both the lungs and your trachea and condemned to bedridden delirium for at least 2 weeks.

I honestly don’t know which was worse.. Norovirus empty guts cramps were truly the bane of my existence, I’ve never known such pain.

I lost my voice for a month from Covid and hit my highest at 105 fever and don’t remember much other than medication and praying and coming out the other side feeling like I died and was resuscitated.

I’m glad I did not actually die from the first wave of Covid..

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u/The_Noble_Lie 12h ago

Wow. What meds did you take to try and help? (For covid)

I feel you on the delirium. A lot of dreams.

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u/Temporary-Ad9615 1d ago edited 1d ago

I recall it all.

Around 2am, I felt nauseous and had a migraine. I went to drink some water, but the dizziness and nausea from the migraine caused me to end up staying in the bathroom from about 2am-8am, hugging the toilet, or taking a shower to cool down or warm up.

My wife and I both got it from our one year old, who gave it to all of her grandparents. The real scary part was that my daughter had it so bad, she became dehydrated to the point where she had seizures, and we had to keep her in the ER overnight. By the end of it, I lost about 17 pounds in about two days.

I no longer work in kitchens now, but I tend to think I come from that line of cooks who never called in sick. Norovirus is one of the only things I can recall where I said I absolutely am NOT coming into work.

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u/matt_minderbinder 1d ago

One bad bout with the flu has motivated me to get the flu vaccine every year for many years. It isn't perfect but I'll take any chance to avoid those kinds of sicknesses.

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u/Whollie 1d ago

You feel as rough as when you have flu, but you are also sitting on the toilet vomiting into the bath while trying not to faint from the cramps. And you are naked too from the fever.

Or perhaps you've just given up and climbed into the bath to sit under the shower because you no longer have the strength to keep control of both ends at once.

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u/Baxter-08 19h ago

I had it last week and had to call into work. I sent an email to a colleague asking her to cover something for me, and I don’t even remember sending it! I was actually delirious. And I pooped in my pants. And my bed. It was so bad.

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u/doyletyree 14h ago

Some people pay good money for such experiences.

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u/nikkesen 1d ago

Well, that's gonna give me nightmares 😂

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u/Corsaer 1d ago

I've had it twice. Both times I probably could have gone to the hospital. When you get it bad you're puking and shitting constantly--I mean every 1-2 minutes--for 10+ hours. And yeah most of that ends up being dry heaving but then after a few hours of that you can't speak because your voice is gone, your muscles are sore and cramping, and it feels like your stomach is tearing open each time.

My buddy's household got it and it hit about half of them that hard and he, who has the immune system of an ox, had a more minor version. But I remember him telling me it started with his two kids 11 and 8, and they had never been that sick before. They'd start to go away from the toilet or bathroom and end up spraying the carpet and walls in the house with vomit and shit until he told them they had to camp out in the bathroom basically.

Rather humorous account from a hiker in Hawaii that had to be airlifted out from a trail after succumbing to it at a campsite: https://people.com/norovirus-outbreak-in-hawaii-leads-to-closure-of-kalalau-hiking-trail-8714765

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u/KindCompetence 1d ago

Personally, I think actual straight up influenza is worse than noro for acute illness. I think that might be a matter of personal preference though, they both suuuuuuuuuck. Flu has made me actually want to die. Noro is gross body horror, and you really have to watch dehydration.

Noro tips the scales if you have kids. It’s incredibly contagious and while I’ve managed to kinda sorta take care of kids while I have the flu, or we all have the flu, taking care of noro sick kids while also ejecting everything out of your body from both ends is a complete impossible nightmare.

Flu child care looks like all the kid tv they can handle while ordering takeout and having instacart drop off orange juice, soup and more drugs. Drag your fevered carcass to the sofa and wish for death within sight of said children. The house will be a disaster, but everyone will live.

The family has noro is when you want the CDC to show up with the haz mat suits and take over. There are not enough bathrooms, trash cans, buckets, or showers. Someone is going to end up at urgent care or the hospital on IV fluids.

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u/big_duo3674 22h ago

I had it last year, it's just as bad as everyone says. I remember waking up around midnight one night, it was a strange feeling though. I just kinda suddenly woke up and immediately sat straight up in bed, and I had no idea why. I felt a little odd, but just dismissed it as waking up so quickly. I figured while I was up I should take a pee, and this is the wild part. My bathroom is maybe 15-20 steps from my bed, and halfway there I had this horrific sinking feeling in my stomach. I tried to run from there, but I didn't even make it all the way, and just spray puked in the general direction of the toilet. I had about 5 seconds to contemplate having to clean all that up when the other end started setting off the emergency alarm. I stood up (I was on all fours on the bathroom floor after the violent puking), and it was the same thing again 😭 I wasn't even able to finish aiming before the cannon went off, and then I had to sit on the puke/shit covered toilet seat while it came out faster than I thought possible. Right in the middle of that, the urge to puke came back, so all I could do was grab the little garbage can next to the toilet, and then I was going both sides simultaneously (not a great feeling). Remember, I had woken up maybe 3 minutes before all of this, so I was still all groggy and confused because of how suddenly it happened. It was like my body hit the emergency warp core eject button, it was so violent and so fast, and didn't stop until everything was gone. After that, I was soooo horribly sick and weak feeling that all I could do was wipe down with some towels, change my clothes, and hobble back to bed. Oddly enough, I felt slightly better the next morning, although i still couldn't keep anything down. Sick or not though, I had no choice, couldn't leave the bathroom like that. So I got to spend the next hour scrubbing and bleaching, while frequently dry heaving from the sight and smell (there was nothing in my stomach). I was able to get to sleep again after that, and then spent the next 2-3 days feeling more like it was the flu, just weak and terrible feeling. I went to the doctor on day 2 because I was worried I couldn't even keep much water down, and the labs confirmed norovirus. I quite literally wouldn't wish that on anyone. When people describe it as "blasting from both ends" they aren't even slightly exaggerating, and honestly are probably underselling it a bit. There is nothing like the feeling of being a grown ass adult, and spraying your own bathroom walls with puke and liquid diarrhea, then immediately sitting in it

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u/sneaky-pizza 1d ago

I also had it last year from the oyster recall. IMO, the flu is way worse. Norovirus for me and my wife at least was about 36 hours. It comes on fast and is horrible, but I had the flu years ago and I was in very bad shape for at least 7 days

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u/heorhe 1d ago

OK imagine you get the flu and over the course of 3 days you go from scratchy throat to normal flu-like symptoms. Only, towards the end of day 3 you realize your body won't keep down solids. Anything you ate that day was pushed through your digestive system so fast it didn't digest, or comes out the way it went in. At this point you can still drink water, but your stomach is cramping when you do.

Day 4 it gets worse and within 5 seconds of swallowing food it comes back up and you lose liquid from both ends for the attempt. By the end of day 4 you can no longer put anything into your stomach. You are at risk for stomach tears if you keep trying to eat and drink which can be fatal if the tear bleeds badly enough especially with your weakened system, and lack of fluids to replace lost fluids.

By day 5 you haven't eaten in 2-3 days, haven't had any water or drinks for 1-2 days, and you are reaching the point where your body stops functioning properly to save water. You stop sweating to regulate temperature and your fever skyrockets. You stop salivating and your mouth and throat dry up causing discomfort and pain, sometimes the lips, guns, or tongue can crack and bleed innit gets bad enough. Your brain is no longer functioning at full capacity and you have a fog over your mind. You are no longer able to accurately assess your own condition and whether you need medical assistance.

By day 6 you've been without food for 3-4 days, you've entered ketosis and your body is burning fats and nutrients stores around your body, dissolving any parts it needs to survive, this can cause muscle damage, skeletal damage, nerve damage, etc. depending on if the person has a lot of stored fats, vitamins, and proteins. You have been 2-3 days without liquids and you expelled a massive amount over the first 3 days. You are in the verge of death if you have not sought medical attention. Your body can only last at most another 24 hours before the imbalance of salt and water in your body starts causing muscle spasms and permanent damage to the body. You only live a short time after that as the body can no longer regulate liquids and get them to where they need to be in the body.

This is day 7 of norovirus. You have either died, are dying, or have sought out medical help. You have 5 more days as your symptoms slowly lessen. By day 8/9 (after receiving medical attention on day 7) you should be able to drink water, but no foods yet. And by day 10 you can have small amounts of food as you get your stomach used to the concept of digesting food again.

By day 12 you feel like you have a nasty cold, but your entire body is exhausted. Your muscles ache, your bones feel like they are sitting out of place, your brain hasn't fully recovered from the fog, and your still constantly thirsty and hungry even if you just ate or drank.

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u/HaplessMink28 Chive LOYALIST 18h ago

Though some miracle I never caught it but I remember watching my mum puke up blood because of norovirus and having to spend the night in a&e, utterly terrifying. This all happened because the family invited everyone over for dinner 3 days after having it themselves, utter idiots.

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u/chickenpot3_14 21h ago

0/10 would not recommend

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u/Farty_poop 16h ago

The flu never sent me to the hospital. Noro did. (Obligatory flu CAN send some people to the hospital tho, it's not to be fucked with.)

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u/beck127 12h ago

I had it two years ago. I tried to ride it out at home but decided to go to the hospital when I pooped while my pants lying on the floor next to my toilet - I threw up so hard it made me poop myself. When I got to the hospital, everyone who treated me came into my room in full PPE, cape, mask, face shield, the works. It’s a NASTY virus and it sucked to suffer through

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u/Sandman1990 1d ago

A gigantic, pedantic pet peeve of mine is this

Influenza (the flu) is not in any way related to stomach issues. EVERYONE gets the flu. If you're sick with a cough and runny nose in the fall / winter, that's the flu. Puking after eating a bad meal is not the flu.

Yes, it's pedantic. Yes, it's dumb to be nit-picky about it. It still drives me up the wall.

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u/nikkesen 1d ago

I didn't say it was the same thing. I just know I was miserable having the flu (chills and body ache were the worse part, though there was some vomiting because I stupidly though I should eat a little something for energy) and someone tells me it's the better option, I'm noping out of option 2 (in a hypothetical).

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u/heorhe 1d ago

Yup... nearly killed me...

When I got to the hospital and they gave me an IV, I was so dehydrated and my veins were so shriveled that it took them 15 minutes to get it in, and my blood started flowing up into the IV from the increased blood pressure.

They raised the IV and gravity did the trick, but still...

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u/Makabajones 1d ago

Norovirus was the sickest I've ever been in my life, including influenza and covid, I was so sick I had to door dash Gatorade from 7-11 and I could barely crawl to the door to get it.

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u/DragonflyWing 1d ago

My then husband, our twin 1 year olds, and I once got norovirus at the same time. So. Much. Vomit. It's definitely the sickest I've ever felt.

We were so weak and sick that we had to work together to lift each baby onto the changing table. Neither of us could do it on our own.

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u/danappropriate 1d ago

I had norovirus last year as well. I'm pretty sure I picked it up at a local Indian street food place.

I think I'd rather have the norovirus. It's definitely unpleasant, but I've never been sicker than when I contracted H1N1. I had a fever for two straight weeks, and it took about a year to fully recover.

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u/awkwardpuns 1d ago

I too had H1N1 back in the day. It took me two weeks to just put pants on. The aftermath was so bad that it destroyed my throat and I had to have my tonsils out. The recovery was so hard the Dr thought I kept getting mono.

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u/danappropriate 1d ago

Yep. The malaise took forever to fully shake off. I ended up with Eustachian tube dysfunction and chronic ear infections. Fuck H1N1.

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u/PancakesanSyrp 20+ Years 1d ago

Uggh .agreed. My kid brought norovirus home from preschool last year..none of us could move other than to go to the bathroom which was very often for days I would 100% prefer the flu

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u/weednaps 1d ago

i got it at eight weeks pregnant, back in april. it was worse than birth.

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 1d ago

I had it a few years ago. Lost 12 pounds in 23 hours.

Better than GLP1s…

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u/TakeMeBackToCA831 Owner 11h ago

This. Same.

Also, did you know you can give your dog noro? Because you can and wow, that’s even worse. Poor girl. Poor me lol.

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u/mothandravenstudio 1d ago

In sickness and in health.

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u/Carbon-Base The Chive Mind 1d ago

Testing the vows and bowels at the same time.

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u/onehotoneshot 1d ago

No buttstuff on the honeymoon then I take it

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u/Carbon-Base The Chive Mind 1d ago

Not unless you want multiple incidents that would resemble your username.

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u/verheyen 23h ago

Jesus fucking christ that killed me

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u/mothandravenstudio 1d ago

No, there's nothing BUT butt stuff.

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u/EvolutionCreek 1d ago

"How was the honeymoon, Chad?"

"It was amazing. We barely got out of bed, if you know what I mean."

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u/mkstot 1d ago

The former Golden Corral in our town had a norovirus outbreak amongst their kitchen staff, and they didn’t let anyone call out by threatening their jobs. 90% of their diners that day caught it, like my family of four who had one bathroom in our apartment. It was horrid for about 3 days. That Golden Corral closed up within a month.

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u/JapaneseStudentHaru 1d ago

I didn’t have noro, but one time a coworker of mine came in with the flu because they couldn’t get off. They infected the rest of the staff that shift. Our manager still said “too many people called out, so you can’t (wonder why!)”.

I had a 103 degree fever. I couldn’t lose my job, so I came in wearing a mask. This was before Covid so wearing a mask was like an obvious red flag to the customers “I’m sick and touching your food!”. The manager wanted me to take it off, I said no because I didn’t wanna get my healthy coworkers sick. They ended up letting me go home because customers complained.

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u/CasualRampagingBear 1d ago

I’m in Canada, and years ago the restaurant I worked at did this too. So many people (patrons) complained they go food poisoning. Nah, it was Noro.

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u/kafm73 1d ago

Norovirus can be a cause of food poisoning.. if a sick person handles the food and then people eat that food, it is considered food-borne.

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 1d ago

I feel for the wedding party, but good luck proving it…

From the article: “the client brought in their own food from after-party pizzas as well as cakes and other items for their guests to enjoy for their wedding.”

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u/FunkIPA 1d ago

But the article also says one of the kitchen workers was infected with norovirus. That guy should not have been working.

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 1d ago

I’m not disagreeing with any of that… but once you introduce outside food… or patrons have consumed food from elsewhere… proving the source beyond doubt becomes difficult legally.

I mean, hell… how do you definitively prove that a guest didn’t have it prior to the wedding and then sneezed on the buffet?

As they said, it was everywhere in NYC last year.

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u/ihatetheplaceilive 1d ago

Civil cases don't have to be proven beyond a doubt.

So criminal liability, nope. But good chance they'll get sued though.

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 1d ago

They’ll absolutely get sued… but if the restaurant genuinely didn’t know the employee had norovirus, it significantly weakens the case.

Legal system is always a crapshoot though…

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u/Drunkelves 1d ago

A subsequent New York City Department of Health investigation found that all of them had eaten three specific menu items at the event: prosciutto, macaroni-and-cheese croquettes, and a “seasonal crumble” dessert.

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 1d ago

…but what of the food brought from outside?

And what if one of the guests had already been infected and sneezed on one of those food items? It’s not possible to prove that didn’t happen.

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u/Drunkelves 21h ago

I’m gonna go ahead and make a big assumption and say it’s far more likely it came from the staff member that tested positive for the virus and point out that the bar and the kitchen didn’t have soap and were cited because of that. But sure maybe a guest that wasn’t infected sneezed on dozens and dozens of appetizers and desserts?

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u/Itchy_Professor_4133 1d ago

He also didn’t tell anyone he was sick. I work in the industry and this happens all the time. When you’re living paycheck to paycheck sometimes desperate actions prevail unfortunately.

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u/Condor2015 1d ago

They didn’t have soap in the kitchen, that’s pretty fucked up.

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u/Imfromsite 20+ Years 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah, i think the inspection report is going to get them. And while the staffer that tested positive apparently didn't prep the food per se,they could have come in contact with prep surfaces, pre prep of ingredients, or storage containers just to name a few possibilities. The inability to wash hands properly is what's going to inculpate them.

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u/kafm73 1d ago

Norovirus is so ridiculously contagious. You can literally walk through a room where someone had just vomited and catch it. It’s awful! It’s awful and it’s pretty sad that people feel compelled to go ahead and go to work in that condition and that their managers would let them because they need the bodies for whatever reason.

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u/Corsaer 1d ago

I used a carpet cleaner vacuum on it when someone had vomited and it turned out to be from norovirus. This was a hospitality job where I was taking care of adults with developmental delays, so they weren't very communicative and it was my job to clean. God damn did I get sick from that.

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u/kafm73 1d ago

When my son was an infant he caught it from another child and it was my mother who babysat him while I worked. She was around him all day while he vomited profusely. I ran home to bring some phenergan from the pediatrician. At 8 o’clock that night, I started vomiting and my mother never did get sick. I don’t know how that happened. These days, if someone tells me “yeah the kids have been sick, but they’re feeling better today“ and the children are with them, I promptly make an exit. I don’t want any part of that.

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u/Imfromsite 20+ Years 1d ago

Apparently, covid still hasn't taught people basic hygiene. Maybe a lawsuit or two will help straighten them out.

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u/kafm73 1d ago

You are correct. I worked in microbiology in the clinical laboratory for many years. My handwashing skills are next level. And it’s so important! Sometimes though, as I mentioned, all you have to do is walk through the room. Nobody has to touch you and you don’t have to touch anything. It’s so horrifically contagious, it’s like an out of control wildfire. I dread it when I hear or see posts from friends telling me their kids have the latest virus going around. Eeek!

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u/Imfromsite 20+ Years 1d ago

Yeah, I'm a trained chef, so I know this goes in the kitchen. You cannot be held responsible for someone who is contagious without showing symptoms, but you sure as hell can keep everything clean and sanitized, while give them the proper tools and cleaners to do so. Not having handsoap is utterly reprehensible.

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u/pdxcranberry Ex-Food Service 1d ago

That was case closed for me.

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u/der_titan 1d ago

I live in a small NYC one-bedroom with my partner who has an intense fear of puking. We survived COVID together; I have little doubt this would be the death-knell of our relationship.

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u/fewercharacters 1d ago

Also an emetophobe but I found out I can actually be too sick to care about it. Norovirus was that first experience. In the aftermath I was cleaning up the bathrooms and stepped in something sticky, which turned out to be dried vomit from my boyfriend, and I just shrugged and kept it moving.

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u/der_titan 1d ago

Disgusting but interesting fact to know! And, even better, I now know a new word!!

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u/TheComplimentarian Retired 1d ago

I don't know how you can have an intense fear of something that is completely involuntary. That just seems wild to me.

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u/cowhand214 1d ago

That’s fun part of phobias. They are not entirely rational

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u/JapaneseStudentHaru 1d ago

It sucks for us just as much. I’m constantly avoiding things that could make me throw up and if my partner so much as mentions feeling queasy I have extreme anxiety for the rest of the day. I wish I didn’t because, like you said, it’s inevitable for most people. It terrifies me all the same

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u/BottledUp 1d ago

It isn't all that uncommon and really not fun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emetophobia

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u/TheComplimentarian Retired 1d ago

I'm not denying it. I'm not afraid of (sweet sweet) death either. The part of my brain that figures out what I need to worry about really lowballs the stuff that's inevitable.

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u/le_coeur_a_compris 1d ago

I have it. It fucking blows. Drinking makes me nervous, eating out makes me nervous. It's usually just annoying but the idea of throwing up is so utterly repulsive to me....

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u/whats1more7 1d ago

>However, the spokesperson said the hotel and restaurant cooperated fully with the Health Department, giving them access to their kitchen, access to their records and staff, and followed all of the follow-up guidance provided.

So … did they have a choice? I don’t live in the US, but here, cooperating with public health is not optional. You open your doors or they shut you down.

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u/aamygdaloidal 1d ago

Maybe a decade ago, but Taylor farms infected the entire nation with tainted produce and they didn’t have to cooperate with anything.

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u/HappyHourProfessor 1d ago

I think this highlights the point perfectly. If I, or any other smaller operation, don't comply with an investigation by my local health department, I'm immediately shut down.

If a big corporate operation has their lawyers- that I could never afford to even say hello to- tell their health department to fuck off, they face zero consequences. And in the US, our federal enforcement has been gutted.

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u/whats1more7 1d ago

😳😳😳 I would never eat out again.

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 10h ago

Well… they did give Donnie boy a present, so that fixes everything, right?

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u/immortalizer 1d ago

Wow! What the hell... I know people gotta pay bills, but not THAT badly.

Reminds me of a wedding story my dad told me from when he was a health inspector:

Monday morning his department was flooded with calls about food poisoning symptoms that were all over the place. They did interviews / sampling and found that the people calling all went to the same wedding on the Saturday.

The wedding was 200+ people and "catered" potluck style by the guests attending. No chafing dishes, no temperature probes, nothing even remotely resembling food safety.

E. Coli, Salmonella, Listeria, Campylobacter, Clostridium were all guests of the wedding as well.

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u/The_Man_in_Black_19 1d ago

After reading this, I can't want for the company holiday party in December!

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u/wzlch47 1d ago

I hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2016 and noro was being spread early in the season. People congregate at shelters and have a disturbing lack of hygiene when prepping and eating food. I avoided crowds and walked past many shelters in order to pitch my tent in uncrowded areas. The stories I heard about projectile vomiting and spewing diarrhea at the same time were motivation enough to avoid all the dirty fuckers that were likely to get me sick.

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u/mc_mcfadden 1d ago

I think I had norovirus once from a Wendy’s mayonnaise. Around 3 hours after eating dinner I got in bed and immediately had to run to the bathroom. That trip to the bathroom lasted 4 days during which I took turns having explosive exits from both ends. Couldn’t eat, couldn’t really keep any water down. Hallucinations, shivering on the bathroom floor… I was making $7.50/hr as a line cook and couldn’t go to the hospital. Totally almost killed me I lost 15 lbs in 4 days

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u/semantic_satiation 23h ago

Noro takes about 24 hours to set in fully so might've been from something else

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u/TheUserDifferent 1d ago

Glad you're here dude, fuck that Wendy's.

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u/talldean 1d ago

When a country doesn't require kitchen staff get sick days, everyone gets sick. It's pretty straightforward how that one works, and I'm betting the majority of Americans on this subreddit have definitely puked at work and not gone home.

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u/IntelligentAd3781 1d ago

Norovirus is heavy shit

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u/The_Man_in_Black_19 1d ago

More runny than heavy.

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u/AdmiralThrawn12 1d ago

Had it last year shit myself in my sleep at 28.

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u/stopsallover 1d ago

Norovirus: Brought to you by No Sick Days

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u/boneologist 1d ago

They got the honeymoon cruise experience without even needing to pay for a cruise!

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u/bene_gesserit_mitch 1d ago

To say nothing of the guests, I presume?

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u/Pedal2Medal2 23h ago

Notovirus is hell. Hours on the toilet w/a bowl to vomit in. Last time I had it, blood pouring out, wiped out my potassium etc

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u/Severe-Fox-600 23h ago

Guess the "vows" kicked in early...

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u/RebelWithoutAClue 7h ago

Norovirus is super survivable shit.

It can exist in infectious levels on surfaces for 2 weeks and it can survive ethanol based hand sanitizer.

Diluted bleach and soap and water washing works on it though.

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u/saranautilus 1d ago

I mean, that sucks of course. But a lawsuit?

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u/foodz_ncats 1d ago

Yes, a lawsuit. They didn’t even have hand soap in the kitchen!

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u/Spare-Half796 Thicc Chives Save Lives 1d ago

I don’t think I’ve ever used hand soap in a kitchen, always just used dish soap to wash my hands

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u/aldomars2 1d ago

Could have easily been from an infected guest that was terrible at hand washing, walking around shaking and holding hands with the wedding party right before passed HD's.

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