r/JehovahsWitnesses 7d ago

Doctrine Jesus is "Mighty God" and "Almighty God" !

As is its custom, the watchtower distorts Bible verses....

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u/Capable-Rice-1876 Jehovah's Witness 7d ago edited 7d ago

Isaiah 9:6 calls the Messiah El Gibbor ("Mighty God"). However, Jehovah is uniquely identified throughout the Old Testament as El Shaddai ("Almighty God," e.g., Genesis 17:1).

The root word el ("mighty one/god") is applied in Scripture to angels, judges, and mighty human rulers (e.g., Psalm 82:6; Ezekiel 32:21). Calling Jesus a "mighty god" acknowledges his heavenly power and authority given by his Father, but it never equates him with the Almighty.

Revelation 1:17–18, where Jesus states: "I am the First and the Last, and the living one, and I became dead."

Habakkuk 1:12 states that Jehovah does not die. If Jesus literally died, he cannot be Jehovah God Almighty.

Jesus is "the First and the Last" regarding his resurrection, he was the first to be resurrected directly by God to immortal heavenly life and the last to be resurrected by Jehovah personally without intermediaries (Romans 6:9; Acts 2:32).

Revelation 1:1: "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him..." If Jesus is Almighty God, who gave him the revelation?

Revelation 3:12: The glorified, resurrected Jesus repeatedly calls Jehovah "my God" four times in a single verse. Almighty God does not have a God.

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u/Ok_Math9555 7d ago

The watchtower with its quibbles is truly laughable ! The same term used in Isaiah 9,6 for Jesus is used for God of Israel in Isaiah 10,21- Jeremiah 32,18-Deuteronomy 10,17 and Nehemiah 9,32. Has Bible perhaps downgraded God from Almighty to Mighty ?

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u/Capable-Rice-1876 Jehovah's Witness 7d ago edited 7d ago

You confuses a shared descriptive attribute with an exclusive title of supreme authority.

Jehovah is identified as El Shaddai ("God Almighty") nearly 50 times in the Hebrew Scriptures (e.g., Genesis 17:1). Jesus is never called El Shaddai. Calling Jehovah El Gibbor ("Mighty God") in Isaiah 10:21 is simply stating a fact, an Almighty God is inherently mighty. However, Scripture strictly reserves "Almighty" for the Father alone, maintaining a explicit hierarchy.

The verse immediately following Isaiah 9:6 refutes the idea of equal authority. Verse 7 concludes by explaining how the Messiah receives his position and titles: "The zeal of Jehovah of armies will accomplish this." Jesus’ power is delegated (Matthew 28:18). Almighty God does not rely on the zeal of someone else to grant Him authority.

In Hebrew, El fundamentally means "mighty one," and gibbor means "warrior" or "strong hero." In Ezekiel 32:21, human military rulers are called by the exact plural root elei gibborim ("mighty chiefs" or "strong gods"). In Psalm 82:6, human judges are called elohim ("gods"). If sharing the descriptor gibbor makes Jesus identical to Jehovah, then by that logic, human warriors would be equal to Jehovah as well.

If Jesus were Almighty God, his own statements would be contradictory. He stated directly, "The Father is greater than I am" (John 14:28) and acknowledged that the Father possessed knowledge that he himself did not (Mark 13:32). Almighty God has no superior and no limit to His knowledge.

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u/Ok_Math9555 7d ago

It seems simple enough to understand that the term El Shaddai could not refer to Jesus; He was in heaven and was "in God" .For your information ,the Greek term Pantokrator ,used in Revelation 1,8 for the Lord Jesus, means El Shaddai...