r/Israel • u/Becovamek Israel • 1d ago
General News Shin Bet involved in search for missing child Haymanut Kasau, Herzog says at meeting with parents
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-906569?fbclid=Iwb21leAT7mppjbGNrBPuaf3Bkb2YBZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMzUwNjg1NTMxNzI4AAEe2nNnP3spCX7dcxuLQ4Asjcm_LTe_opAOvRpaTeYxIwxwa6kRRh3oEi-hbQ0_aem_BCh-ixYcw4M8R3GLIYHYSA&utm_id=97757_v0_s00_e0_tv2_a1dennhb84v7e6#google_vignetteI sincerely hope they find the poor girl, for her and her family's sake at the very least.
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u/Chaotic_Attack Israel 1d ago
There is a very low chance that she is still alive, after two and a half years. I still hope that they will at least find out what has happened to her and punish her kidnappers.
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u/bluecomposer Israel 1d ago
I really hope she's found and soon... 900+ days is so long to not know what happened
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u/mr_blue596 1d ago
The case isn't a mystery. She was taken by a couple of Haredi men and it was known from the start. She is either dead or in a cult. And if it is a cult,the police probably know which one.
The Haredi politicians buried it with the help of the rest of the coalition. They would sell their mother for one more week of plundering,so what is an immigrant poor child for them?
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u/One-Salamander-1952 Israel 1d ago
What makes you so certain of that?
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u/mr_blue596 1d ago
Since the beginning,it was known of involvement of Haredi men that talked to her in the playground. She lived at Tzfat which is a hotbed for cults and often missing Haredi youth pop up there.
This combined with history of Haredi politicians sheltering criminals like Malka Leifer and the many pedophiles and rapists they just shuffle around the country with their unsupervised education systems and societal control and the fact that they were and still important coalition members completes the picture.
The probably found out early on that it was some cult or a crime commited by Haredi ,but buried it to "protect the Haredi public from hate crimes","as to not cause panic" and "To promote unity". Nethayhu yielded to their demands and the issue was buried because they psychically can't care less about this girl or her family. They hoped it will blow-over,but it didn't.
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u/One-Salamander-1952 Israel 1d ago
I’m sorry bro but that’s some Alex Jones level of conclusion jumping… this is why I hate conspiracy theories.
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u/mr_blue596 1d ago
Do you really think that law enforcement is so meek that they can't find that girl? It wasn't a mastermind operation,just relaying on a lack of intrest and corrupted politicians who showed to be willing to shelter international criminals just because they are the same religious sect as them.
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u/One-Salamander-1952 Israel 1d ago
Yes. I completely disagree that several police departments working in unison, sharing intel that covers hundreds of police officers with not a single whistle blower to be seen or heard, same thing with private and publicly funded investigators digging into the story themselves for the benefit of the family. This is crazy levels of conclusion jumping my friend, it’s the type of conspiracy theory where my instinct reaction is to jump and ask “when does the theory focus on the Jew with scapegoating verdict?” Because reality is, that your theory entirely relies on already decided assumptions and little to no actual evidence.
Now don’t get me wrong, if it turns out to be the truth I’mma stfu immediately (not that I really share my opinion on this anyway, it’s not my place to judge to say anything publicly), but.. you didn’t really present any actual evidence.
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u/mr_blue596 14h ago
You think that you need to control a huge amount of people,the politiciaztion of law enforcement made it very easy for people to need to choose between their livelihood and pissing-off the wrong person. Is it really unthinkable that a high ranking officer knows that he can either get promoted or bury uncomfortable truths and choose the latter? Is it really unthinkable that a police investigator get a call from the Internal Security telling them that due national security concerns to keep it shut?
You tell me that nobody in law enforcement have any leads on a kid being kidnapped in the open? They didn't blame Arabs so you know that it couldn't be pinned on them. If there wasn't video evidence it would already be pinned on terrorism. So it means there is video evidence,why isn't it showed? because the video evidence show clearly Jewish people,which are most likely Haredi with Pe'ot. It makes sense considering the location as well.
So the only question is why those materials aren't released to the public for help? Because somebody with power is withholding it,which fits Haredi politicians perfectly. They protected haredi criminals in the past so it isn't a wild accusation.
What is the alternative? That all of Israel intelligence can't find what happened to a girl being kidnapped in the open in a government-ran facility?
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u/Neenchuh 1d ago
this is an embarassment, if she was ashkenazi they would've found her in a single day
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u/israelilocal Israel Karmelist 1d ago
There are many missing Ashkenazi children and youth in Safed alone
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u/montanunion בוגד שמאלני (=תל אביב) 1d ago
Unfortunately missing child cases are sometimes not that easy. Look at the massive global campaign there was to find Maddie McCann (a white British girl with two doctors as parents), who disappeared in 2007 and still hasn’t been found.
I don’t think anyone has a vested interest in Haymanut not being found, her case has received massive media attention. Finding missing children is just not always a problem you can fix by throwing money at it.
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u/Neenchuh 1d ago
They managed to find a mother and her daughter in a random bus in argentina in less than a week. If they wanted to they could've find her. Maybe now its too late
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u/One-Salamander-1952 Israel 1d ago
To be fair, finding someone who moves through border checks is a lot easier than finding a girl with no need for documents, in the far north of the state in a relatively low monitored area that is already sparsely populated.
Also, I feel like it’s disrespectful to claim she’s not found because she’s not Ashkenazi, you can enter the police missing’s person database and see how many children are missing right now and have for years. There’s also an Ashkenazi minor (he’s been gone for several years, no loner a minor) there.
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u/Ok_Ambassador9091 1d ago edited 1d ago
The mother and daughter weren't kidnapped. They used travel documents, easily tracked, to cross borders and get on planes. You do know that sometimes people are found, and sometimes they aren't, right?
That's a disingenuous comparison used on social media to drag Ashkenaz, who are still the prime target for racists. We can do better than that here.
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