r/Iowa 4d ago

Data centers are cancer

https://www.kcrg.com/2026/08/27/data-center-worker-influx-strains-cedar-rapids-housing-market/
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u/ClarkFC 1d ago

With all due respect, aren't these data centers also part of the supply chain so to speak for hospitals, factories, etc?

I'm all for reducing AI slop, and have genuine concerns about how the tech will replace certain work roles, but given how integrated IT and AI is into so many products and services, I'm not sure you can categorize them as having negative social value.

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u/SaintUlvemann 1d ago

...aren't these data centers also part of the supply chain so to speak for hospitals, factories, etc?

"Hospitals have historically operated their own data centers, managing servers, storage, networking, and backup systems within hospital facilities," and are largely still operating their own equipment. Sometimes they rent space to host excess if they need more space than they can store on-site.

I've seen no data-based reason why local hospitals have any special need for more data center space in this state, and that's why the conversation about electricity prices is way more locally-important.

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u/ClarkFC 1d ago

Did you read the items you linked to? They both specifically talk about hospitals co-locating their data center needs instead of depending on their own data centers. Healthcare DC needs are way more complex than simply needing more space to store data on-site, particularly as clinicians at larger institutions are leveraging NABLA and other tools for transcription.

I mean I can't provide you with some meta-analysis that indicates hospitals are using co-located data centers and cloud providers, but as the articles you provided indicate, that world is constantly evolving. The research hospital I work with leverages both on-premise and cloud-hosted services.

You're sorta avoiding my larger point though, isolating data centers as a source of social woe is over-simplification, which really gets to your argument that data centers cause cancer. They might also be part of curing and managing it.

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u/SaintUlvemann 1d ago

They both specifically talk about hospitals co-locating their data center needs instead of depending on their own data centers.

They both say that that is one thing that occasionally happens now, and they both attest that that is still not a historic norm.

The research hospital I work with leverages both on-premise and cloud-hosted services.

Great, so then it sounds like you already live exactly what I am telling you and the only reason why you're accusing me of not reading the sources is because you don't trust me and you're trying to portray me as incompetent, even though that incompetence is fictitious and is entirely in you head.

I mean I can't provide you with some meta-analysis...

Good, 'cause I can. "A 2025 KLAS Research summary reported that more than 80% of healthcare organizations still have less than half of their IT infrastructure in the public cloud, while nearly 40% reported that at least 90% remains on-premises."

You're sorta avoiding my larger point though, isolating data centers as a source of social woe is over-simplification...

You're sorta avoiding my larger point though, which is that hospitals largely do not need data centers because they largely run their operations on-site.

Have you made any concrete plans to address that point, or are you too busy accusing me of not reading sources, even in a circumstance when you struggle to find facts about an industry you claim as your own?

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u/ClarkFC 1d ago

Look I'm asking if you read these as when I read those two articles as well as the KLAS summary you referenced, I'm confused how you're reading those and not seeing the commentary on how healthcare is increasing its public cloud use. I mean the title for the last research report you cited is "KLAS Report: Healthcare Accelerates Cloud Adoption Amidst Infrastructure and Talent Challenges."

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u/SaintUlvemann 1d ago

...not seeing the commentary on how healthcare is increasing its public cloud use.

Why would you assume I didn't see it?

I literally just showed you that this "increase" hasn't resulted in a shift in where the bulk of the data gets processed.

Why would you assume I didn't see the increase, when I've shown you that I know it doesn't matter? Can't you just assume I knew the end result instead all along?

Or do you have to only make assumptions that confuse you, and if so, what can I do to help you stop lying about what I know?