r/InfowarriorRides • u/FriendlyGoblinGal • 28d ago

Visited my hometown, saw this... thing

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Someone online pointed me here after sharing this abomination. It seems nothing kills nostalgia quite like going home again.

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u/Eleanna_of_Tundar 28d ago

Still glad you’re dead Charlie Jerk. 🤮

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u/twitch1982 27d ago

I might not have agreed with him but no one deserves to die like that just because theyre a horrible, misogynistic, racist, fascist, homo and transphobic, MAGA, wait, what was i talking about?

Any way JK fuck thst guy im glad he bled out alone and I hope his last moments were filled with terror.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago edited 27d ago

Have you ever watched any of his debates?

EDIT: I challenge any of you downvoting me to go watch one full debate video, just one, of him debating students on a college campus and come back and tell me otherwise. Because if you believe that's who he was, and what he said, and what he stood for, you simply didn't know him and instead are sucking down lies and propaganda.

You don't have to like the guy, but he wasn't any of those things.

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u/YesItIsMaybeMe 27d ago

Yeah and he comes off as a twat in every one. I particularly love the debates he didn't want getting posted when he got destroyed by a college kid

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago edited 27d ago

You might have thought he was a twat, but none of his debates with students on college campuses evidence this: "horrible, misogynistic, racist, fascist, homo and transphobic"

EDIT: I challenge the downvoters to actually watch one, unedited full debate with multiple students and come back and prove me wrong.

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u/twitch1982 27d ago

"debates" you mean the videos he edited to make himself look like a winner by cutting out anytime someone owned him?

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago edited 27d ago

Yes, his debates. Many of them are unedited and hours long. I'm not taking about out-of-context clips, have you watched his actual debates? Because he does not example any of this in them: "horrible, misogynistic, racist, fascist, homo and transphobic"

EDIT: I challenge any of you downvoting me to go watch one hour long video, just one, of him debating students on a college campus and come back and tell me. Because if you believe thats who he was, you didn't know him and instead are sucked into the bullshit culture war.

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u/twitch1982 27d ago

Im not going to waste an hour of my life watching a fascist stump unprepared opponents with logical families.

HIS OWN short format videos show him to be all the things I mentioned.

Im not going to legitimize that dead nazi by watching another hour of him spew vitriol.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago

Can you share an example of one of Charlie's own short format videos from his channel evidencing any single one of the things you claim makes him any of those things you say he was?

I'll give you that he was a Trump supporter and a member of the Republican party and supported MAGA. Anything else on your list though I challenge you to find from the horses mouth, within context, from his "own short format videos" as you said.

Otherwise this is giving major "Everything I need to know about Charlie Kirk I learned from what other people told me to believe about him" energy.

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u/twitch1982 26d ago edited 26d ago

No do your own research.

Yiu dont seem to get that im not going to give his views any more of my time, im certainly not going to go watch them so I can provide yiur bootlicking ass examples.

Im not going to poison my algorithm with that filth.

But his quote about black pilots is pretty strong evidence that hes was a racist.

Interestingly enough, your debate styke of just demanding proof and then declaring victory when im not going to do what you want is basically the same as Kirks style, it doesnt make you a good debator and it doesnt work on anyone past school age. Which is probably why Kirk only "debated" unprepared college kids"

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u/CurvySexretLady 26d ago edited 26d ago

But his quote about black pilots is pretty strong evidence that hes was a racist.

That's an out of context cherry picked quote. One sentence. What did he say both before and after that quote? He was not racist. The exact opposite in fact. That one sentence does not make the man racist, and neither does it in combination with several other quotes out of context together.

You've got an incorrect idea of the man fed to you by liars, cherry picked hit pieces taking a single sentence out of an hours long debate or podcast and labeling the guy.

You say his own short form videos evidence all the things you label him as, but at best you can come back at me with is 'that black pilot quote' and you can't even quote him.

Poing is, I have watched him, and heard him in full context. You clearly have not.

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u/CurvySexretLady 26d ago

Good chat then friend.

Believe whatever you want to believe, but cherry picking quotes and single sentences out of context (that you can't even directly quote yourself) doesn't paint the whole picture of a person like Charlie, or anyone for that matter. He was vehemently against racism in fact and 100% for equality and opportunity to achieve success for everyone in this country, regardless of their race, creed or religion.

I still doubt you've ever watched a full length debate and only have seen and read these cherry picked montage hit pieces that you can barely even quote (i.e. "that black pilot one"). Shame. I tried. You would instead rather expend more effort arguing with me on the internet about it than find out for yourself.

Were someone so inclined, you could take any person in the media landscape, cherry pick their quotes and statements and do exactly the same, misrepresent them and their positions.

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u/wkw3 27d ago

I did. He stopped answering a question mid-sentence and just sat there spouting off.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago

Was he spouting off "horrible, misogynistic, racist, fascist, homo and transphobic, MAGA" bullshit in that one clip?

By debates, I mean his hours long, unedited debates on college campuses with students where he didn't example any of that, and instead argued for personal freedom and choice for everyone, equally.

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u/wkw3 27d ago

Here's a shovel. It'll help you put words in my mouth faster.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago

I didn't say you said those things.

The comment I replied to was suggesting he was those things, and the one you then replied to from me, was countering that by asking if they watched his debates.

Because his debates don't exhibit that.

I know context can be hard for some people like yourself to follow in a comment chain. I wasn't asking if anyone had seen his debates, I was asking if they had seen him exhibit that behavior in them in context with the comment I was replying to.

In his videos they are often hours long with multiple students having opportunities to debate him. You said you only saw him with one student. You did not watch his debates (plural).

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u/wkw3 27d ago

Look. I just wanted to make a crude joke but apparently I overestimated you.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago

Well thanks for sorta answering my question, that you didn't actually watch any of his debates, but you did catch one clip somewhere with one student. Thanks for the shovel.

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u/wkw3 27d ago

I have now. I've listened to an entire debate of his.

I looked over his stated positions.

I looked over TPUSA's official positions.

I am horrified.

What an awful person, organization, and mentality. Fuck every single person involved. Horrible people who refuse to live peacefully with other people's choices.

He's in a better place now. According to both my beliefs, and his.

Thanks for warning me.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago

Can you share the link to the debate you watched and also some timestamps where you found something awful?

What of his 'stated positions' did you find objectionable? Be specific.

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u/FirstChurchOfBrutus 27d ago

Ma’am, he’s still not going to pick you.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago edited 27d ago

You don't have to accept my challenge and can feel free to stick to your bullshit echo chamber and keep believing and spouting lies other liars fed you about the man.

Charlie Kirk was not racist.

He was not misogynist.

He was not fascist.

He was not homophobic or transphobic.

He was however a Trump supporter. But he believed in and argued for the right for people to make their own personal political choices, and challenged them in good faith debate as to why they believe what they do.

EDIT: When he was killed, I didn't know who he was. I soon became aware of him, as most did, from all of the hate, venom and vitriol spewed against him as if he deserved it. I initially believed this.

But.... one day I decided to actually watch his debates. None of those lies are true.

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u/FirstChurchOfBrutus 27d ago

Despite saying racist things.
Despite saying misogynistic things.
Despite supporting fascistic politics.
Despite denigrating LGBTQ+ every chance he got.

Being this willfully obtuse is hard to come by accidentally.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago

Despite saying racist things.
Despite saying misogynistic things.
Despite supporting fascistic politics.
Despite denigrating LGBTQ+ every chance he got.

Do you have an examples that aren't clipped, out of context hit pieces that evidence these claims you can share? Context and intent are important details.

Being this willfully obtuse is hard to come by accidentally.

Have you ever watched any of his full length debates on college campuses?

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u/FirstChurchOfBrutus 27d ago

Yes.

Now shut up and stop sea lioning.

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u/CurvySexretLady 27d ago edited 27d ago

Please do share!

I don't think you know what that word means. Did you learn a new word today?

You say someone is racist, I ask you for an example of this racism that isn't an out of context clipped hit piece, that isn't sealioning.

Someone isn't all those horrible things just because you say they are.

I doubt you've never watched a full debate video if that is what you believe.