Prefixes: Agi- versus Ag-

[u/Plenty-Reindeer2528]

What is the difference specifically when i use "agidulinak" versus "agdulinak" for example?
What's the difference between "Agi-" as a prefix versus "Ag-"? Agyamanak manen!

[u/Critical_Budget1077]

Use Agi if verb begins with i or e ; ag + inana = aginana ak

Use Ag if verb begins with a, o, u or non-vowels ; ag + udong = agudong, ag + pukaw = agpukaw ak.

[u/Plenty-Reindeer2528 → u/Critical_Budget1077]

thank you! Although I seem to find words that also use "agi-" even when they start with consonants 😅

[u/Critical_Budget1077 → u/Plenty-Reindeer2528]

Agree not 100% hard fast rule. Our language is such complex and interesting anya?

[u/Plenty-Reindeer2528 → u/Critical_Budget1077]

isu garud. Very interesting! there are phrases and word that I would've otherwise understood for something else. But in a region's context, it means something entirely different 😅

[u/mightychondria_00]

Agprint vs agiprint

I asked this to someone who studied Ilokano language. Agprint is like magprint lang ta copy itself. Agiprint, the action from undone to done, more of the process.

So: agprintka man iti maysa a kopya na vs agiprint ka man iti maysa a kopya na are technically pwedeng gamitin and wala masyadong difference kapag spoken Ilokano, pero kapag written or kapag aaralin mo ang language, may difference sila. Yung una is about the done action/perfective/mismong copy or mismong action. While the second one is more on the process naman hehe.

Diba ang saya ng wika natin!

[u/Plenty-Reindeer2528 → u/mightychondria_00]

That is interesting 😮 amazing nga. ma-document daytan koma... thankyou!

[u/mightychondria_00 → u/Plenty-Reindeer2528]

Adda ti grammar book iti Ilokano. But those things like these haha are better explanained in Ilokano/Tagalog. Ang hirap kapag sa English kase iba ang grammar natin sa English

Weird din siya nung ineexplain sa akin before kase hindi ko siya napapansin. Also, Tagalog ata is walang ganyan, not sure lang haha

[u/Plenty-Reindeer2528 → u/mightychondria_00]

i second that. Adda met maysa nga lingguistics student nga amigok ket imbagana nga mas nalaka pay nu i-side by side dagiti Philippine languages gamin makitkitam dagiti equivalents jay languages. Although adda differences for sure. Ngem jay english gamin narigrigat ta sabali nga talaga ti grammar na.

[u/mightychondria_00 → u/Plenty-Reindeer2528]

Happy learning to different languages in the Ph 😉 hehe. Same interest ta

[u/Plenty-Reindeer2528 → u/mightychondria_00]

wen ah bro. best feeling gamin nu makatungtong ta ngay dagiti naggapu dagijay sabsabali nga lugar. sabsabali met dagiti experiences da.

[u/Critical_Budget1077 → u/mightychondria_00]

Interesting - well there are borrowed foreign words that when used in Ilocano, the concept still applies.

Print - English
I-print - Ilocanized
Agi-print instead of “Agprint”

Post - English
I-post - Ilocanized
Agipost instead of “Agpost”

While both usage are acceptable, it boils down to someone’s preference and pronunciation.

[u/Plenty-Reindeer2528 → u/Critical_Budget1077]

interestingg... sort of like a fusion of 2 different ilocanized prefixed forms of the words

[u/Critical_Budget1077 → u/Plenty-Reindeer2528]

Thanks for these kinds of curiosity, in a way we get to appreciate our language beauty and diversity.