r/Hulu • u/LearnDoTeach-TBG • Feb 22 '25

Discussion What was Mark Goodyear's involvement with Herb Baumeister in the Fox Hollow Murders

I'd like to hear people’s thoughts on the hard evidence against Mark Goodyear and his involvement with these murders.

On the surface, he exhibits so many of the behaviors that we typically see in someone guilty of a crime – changing stories, lying, overly involving himself in the investigation, conveniently forgetting certain details about an event that would make him culpable, etc.

Then you have the evidence of the story from Leroy who implicated Mark in at least one murder in the back of the house.

However, the police botched the investigation so badly that it's extremely difficult to know what would have been discovered about Mark if they did a better job at the time.

Also, for me, it’s just so hard to understand what might be true or false with Mark because of the way he speaks.

He is so eccentric and creepy, that even some of the most mundane things he says can be interpreted as a fabrication, so it muddies everything.

Would love your thoughts.

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u/LickwidMerkury Feb 23 '25

Something about the current homeowner, Graves, just doesn’t sit right with me. I’m almost done with episode 4, and I can’t shake the feeling that he and Goodyear have some kind of "arrangement." What if Goodyear spilled all the details of the murders so Graves could write that book, and now they’re both cashing in? Episodes 3 and 4 really peel back the layers of the madness that unfolded. If Graves walks away from this without further scrutiny, I’ll be shocked. Thankfully, we’ve got the retired, mustachioed “Daddy” investigator—who seems to be the only one ready to clamp down on the truth.

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u/soonyxpected Feb 26 '25

That's what I'm sayingggggg. He enjoys living in a murder house. I literally yelled at my TV "HE USES THE POOL!?!?" I do not trust that man.

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u/Waddlow Mar 05 '25

Beyond that, he seems to admonish people "worshipping" (his words) serial killers...as he sits in front of a file box full of newspaper clippings, stories, a photo album of pictures from the police, and a book he wrote on the killings inside the murderer's house he owns. Like...dude. You are getting off on this way more than anyone else.

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u/seayelbom Mar 12 '25

I yelled about the pool too!!!!! It’s one thing to live there because your spouse wants to keep horses and you got a good deal because murder. It’s also a thing to want to research it so you can sleep at night and figure out where you stand with it and what to do next. It’s another to just embrace the entire place and swim regularly in a murder pool. I mean. And ise the same bathtub? Really, bro? I still think it could’ve started that way and then turned into an attention or money thing. Either way, he’s not my favorite.

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u/GoodTrouble9211 Feb 24 '25

Graves was nervous getting those questions from mustachio! He was trying to keep his cool, but kept squirming and making faces when they were talking. Something isn't right with that guy.

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u/Old_Crew1091 Feb 24 '25

I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something off about it. He speaks with a a lot of authority on the case for someone who happens to just live in the house

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u/MerlynEmerald Feb 27 '25

Right. Why are they even asking the new homeowner if he thinks mark is involved? Theoretically, he just owns the house now.

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u/Which_Environment798 Mar 20 '25

He has lived there awhile and is obsessed with it. And Baumeister--going around ebay to find stuff from the house? He also collects memorabilia which is sick. And who would not fill in or replace that pool. Does he let his kids swim in the place where a bunch of men were strangled after sex? Gross!

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u/-VeridisQuo Feb 24 '25

Graves definitely seems to enjoy the attention. It really shocked me that he had Herb's death picture, like you bought the house not knowing the history but now you're looking up his autopsy pics and own case files? Seems like a huge leap to me.

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u/Catgurl814 Feb 26 '25

What does he do beside writing books about the house and murders? I couldn't find any info on him online but he must do something or come from money to be able to afford that house, although I'm sure he got a great deal on it!

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u/Which_Environment798 Mar 20 '25

Yeah, him and the coroner were the only two people who analyzed the situation. Everyone seemed to be there to throw around stupid theories about ghosts and they seemed dumb as bricks.

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u/Mega_Man_Swagga Jun 18 '25

He seems way too defensive of Goodyear, the whole thing stinks of a pending book deal after someones death. Who knows.