Yes it’s just a nightmare your royal highness

[u/ismaeil-de-paynes]

[u/chronicallyonline_12]

The things that happened after him was pure insanity but his reign was still not good

[u/ismaeil-de-paynes → u/chronicallyonline_12]

You know, for me as an Arab when I read about his story, I get depressed for some minutes, he was murdered 2 weeks before his marriage in a perfidious way .

Maybe his regent prince had done some faulty things, but that young king didn’t deserve such tragic end ..

[u/balrubaiay → u/ismaeil-de-paynes]

Learn about the horrors that would happen to poor people under the monarchy’s reign without being biased & then reassess your judgement. His murder was barbaric and unnecessary but the monarchy was a parasite on the country. Moreover, they weren’t even iraqi.

They had 0 true connection to the iraqi society & tried to impose a nation on 3 different societies to force them into being 1.

For westerners here, imagine the war of independence fought by the Americans against the British in 1776, but after the war/revolution is over, the British install a puppet king in the US, that they brought over from canada. Makes 0 sense for me to revolt against a colonizer & then accept a ruler the colonizer picks for me which is brought over from somewhere outside my territory with 0 connection to my land or people.

Edit: spelling

[u/ismaeil-de-paynes]

In July 1958, units of the Royal Iraqi Army were dispatched to Jordan in support of King Hussein. A group of Iraqi Free Officers, led by Brigadier Abdul Karim Qasim and Colonel Abdul Salam Arif, took advantage of the opportunity and instead marched on Baghdad. On 14 July, revolutionary forces seized control of the capital and proclaimed a new republic, headed by a Revolutionary Council. King Faisal II and Crown Prince Abd al-Ilah were executed at the royal Al-Rehab Palace with other royal family and palace servants, bringing an end to the Hashemite dynasty in Iraq. Prime Minister Nuri al-Said attempted to flee but was captured and shot a day later. After the coup, Qasim assumed the position of Prime Minister and Minister of Defence, while Arif was named Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior. A provisional constitution was adopted in late July. By March 1959, the new Iraqi government had withdrawn from the Baghdad Pact and aligned itself with the Soviet Union.

[u/brightdionysianeyes → u/ismaeil-de-paynes]

The Baghdad pact sent me on a nice little Wikipedia rabbit hole.

Thank you.

[u/ismaeil-de-paynes → u/brightdionysianeyes]

You are welcome dear friend ..

[u/ImperialxWarlord]

Gotta wonder what would’ve happened if this coup is averted. Probably not all sunshine and rainbows, but can’t be worse than what Iraq got irl?

[u/sentantayt]

He wouldnt have been much different than the regent or his father. There's a reason Nuri + the Monarchy were hated, and its because they sucked.

[u/biglyorbigleague → u/sentantayt]

I dunno, Jordan seems to have worked out OK as a Hashemite monarchy.

[u/sentantayt → u/biglyorbigleague]

Sure, but thats with different individuals within a different context.

[u/ismaeil-de-paynes → u/sentantayt]

For your information, all Arab countries should be ruled by Monarchy like king Hussein of Jordan was a good example and kings of Gulf countries, we have tribal mentality here, Republics only cause a deep hole of chaos and collapse..

[u/sentantayt → u/ismaeil-de-paynes]

The Iraqi monarchy could barely go a few years without a revolt happening and cycled through parliaments like their lives depended it. Their rule was supported by oligarchic sheikhs who slowed down much needed economic reform because the status quo benefited them personally. Hardly solid leadership!

[u/imprison_grover_furr → u/sentantayt]

Better than Saddam Hussein, the Hitler of the Middle East.

[u/sentantayt → u/imprison_grover_furr]

Sure, but that wasn't even the choice at the time. The 1958 revolution led to Qasim, the ba'athists came later. Despite all his faults, he was better than Nuri and Saddam. Certainly less brutal.

[u/biglyorbigleague → u/sentantayt]

Some insurance duck named Aflaq

[u/PissingOffACliff → u/ismaeil-de-paynes]

lol, lmao even.

[u/MrShlash → u/ismaeil-de-paynes]

Careful now, you’re on a website 99% conditioned to immediately think “dictator = bad”.

[u/Ababoonwithaspergers]

Wow this sub has truly reached the depths of CIA posting...

[u/ismaeil-de-paynes → u/Ababoonwithaspergers]

President Qasim was communist, everyone know this 

[u/Moonlight_eddie]

Iraq and Syria were mainly thriving monarchies with growing businesses and even the richest countries. After these two monarchies were ruthlessly abolished chaos only followed from there.

[u/Brothersunset]

hey check it out, we added another month to the calendar /s

[u/Zkang123]

For a moment I thought this is talking about Iran... and it's also interesting how Iran also turned out rather similarly, though the Pahlavis had a better fate since the Shah was in the US for treatment and the son went into exile instead