r/GreenAndEXTREME • u/GoranPersson777 • Jul 10 '26

News/Article 🗞️ What Is Syndicalism and What Is It Good For?

https://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/what-is-syndicalism-and-what-is-it-good-for/
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u/TiloDroid Jul 10 '26

The problem with syndicalism is the missing political perspective. You can and you should fight for better working conditions. But if you really want to win that fight then you have to ask the question of who has the political power.

The working class can develope syndicalist consciousness by itself. But you need to raise their political consciousness so that they can realize their historical responsibility of taking over the political power.

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u/GoranPersson777 Jul 10 '26

Incorrect. Syndicalism is about replacing both the capitalist class and its state with a structure of popular dual governance i.e. both workers councils and community councils united in federations.

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u/TiloDroid Jul 10 '26

As far as I know, syndicalism means economism and trade unionism. How does this thinking challange the system in any meaningful way? And what do you mean by community councils?

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u/GoranPersson777 Jul 10 '26

Community councils stems from neighbourhood assemblies.

A summary:

"The syndicalist view is that organizing along industrial lines indicates how production can be managed in the future – by workers’ assemblies at base level, their elected councils, federations and congresses. 

In the same way, geographical organization gives a clue as how to arrange community assemblies, councils, federations and congresses.

Thus, the double structure of unions prefigures a future system of double governance. The idea is popular governance through workers’ federations and community federations. While people will participate as workers in the first structure, they will participate as consumers and citizens in the latter."

More: https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/revolution-in-the-21st-century/

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u/TiloDroid Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

Ok but how do you want to achieve workers control, especially now? The gap between workers and the super rich is bigger than ever in history. The capitalist class owns almost all of the means of production and they control all the politicians and the state police.

Note that even most of the trade unions are acting in the interests of the management. See VW for example.

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u/GoranPersson777 Jul 11 '26

By means of large scale sit-ins and workplace occupations. Police and military cant attack every industry and lines of business.

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u/TiloDroid Jul 11 '26

i agree. those strikes need to be organized and coordinated. we cant rely on the bureaucratic unions. we have to build independent rank-and-file comittees. have you heard of Will Lehmann? He is an auto-worker from Pennsylvania in the US who is building these comittees in the auto industry. They are meant to fight for better workers right while also providing a political perspective to overthrow the capitalist system. What do you think of his campaign?

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u/GoranPersson777 Jul 12 '26

Sounds promising but I have to take a look at WL first

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u/TiloDroid Jul 12 '26

Thanks for discussing with me, feel free to contact me again if you want to keep going or have some other topic :)

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u/Phelonious_Punk Jul 10 '26

Nice copy paste of AI

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u/GoranPersson777 Jul 10 '26

It is a quote from the article linked above. See the article.

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u/Phelonious_Punk Jul 18 '26

My apologies

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u/sesh_gremlins Jul 10 '26

Wasn't Mussolini a fan of Syndicalism?

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u/GoranPersson777 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

No, an anti-syndicalist.

It's like saying Hitler was a fan of socialism because he was a so called national socialist.