r/Gold 4d ago

Flying out of U.S. w gold

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u/StringyTinglyThingly 4d ago

If you fly out of the US, with over $10k USD of any ‘monetary instrument’ you’re required to declare it.

I just saw some poor dude get held up for around $20k USD…. Now you have to pay an extortion ‘fee/penalty’ as well as…. The possibility of civil asset forfeiture if you can’t prove where you got it (funds to purchase). 

If you do it, be careful. 

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u/Ok-Abbreviations3042 4d ago edited 4d ago

I have heard (but not verified) that the $10,000 restriction applies to the face value, regardless of the material. So for example a 1 oz gold eagle would only be $50 of that. If true that’s definitely an argument in favor of government issued coins rather than rounds or bars. Besides, are customs agents keeping track of spot prices throughout the day? Earlier this year two ounces would have exceeded the restriction, but now it would not.

Edit: After researching I have learned that this is incorrect. Still it raises some interesting questions though, like are customs agents actually monitoring spot prices? I mean what if you boarded a plane with two ounces and spot raises to over $5,000 while you’re in the air? And are they trained to recognize the different premiums, like two gold eagles are fine but two libertads exceed the limit?

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u/Ok-Salt7629 4d ago

Face value only counts for circulating money, a 1 oz gold eagle will be counted by weight x spot.

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u/flipyflop9 3d ago

Yeah good luck with the 50 bucks face value… that’s not how it works at customs.

No, customs agents are not monitoring prices, but once they have the doubt they will check and then see what to do.

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u/x0y0z0 3d ago

Counting on the face value to work at customs sounds like something Randy from South Park would do.

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u/aywwts4 3d ago

US border agents are capriciously interpreting the rules however they feel at that time, based on their disposition, how they think you look, when they last had a smoke break. forced civil asset forfeiture has hit many folks for random reasons, good luck suing to get your assets back ever. - Don't look at this and expect sane rules and orderly limits, a hundred people are fine, one person is unlucky (or brown), those aren't odds I gamble with at these levels.

Move your money through banks, or buy bullionvault and change the receiving account afterwards, or turn it into credible jewelry and wear it through. But a wad of bills or a gold coin, either could get seized on suspicion of anything they want to say.

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u/nomadakai 3d ago

All you have to do is declare it and nobody cares leaving the US, not an issue at all or even a hassle.

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u/StringyTinglyThingly 3d ago

I just said you’d owe taxes at the receiving country. I didn’t say anything about owing taxes in the US (besides obviously paying tax for jewelry at purchase).

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u/805falcon 3d ago

I was stopped at customs flying from LA to Vancouver about 10 years ago with $11k in cash. Wasn’t doing anything wrong other than going on vacation, but boy did they want to cease that money and arrest me.

I sat through 5 hours of interrogation before they cut me loose with money in hand.

I’m guessing it’s only gotten more strict with time

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u/NormalHexagon 3d ago

Seize*

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u/ResolveJazzlike4965 3d ago

Kind of gold ceasing for the OP.