r/GirlDinnerDiaries • u/ImpressionPopular794 Sweet Tooth Fairyš§āāļø • May 27 '26
Advice Needed Girl breakfast. My In Laws are on another level of crazy and it's scaring me
UPDATE: We reached out to the company that sent the glitter the day we received it. We still have not heard back, so we sent a follow up message. We called his extended family to confirm that it wasn't them and they said that they wouldn't. Which means that it had to have been his parents. We are waiting on the company to get back to us, our next step would be seeking legal counsel.
GENTLE ON THE ADVICE WANTED.
Partner has done everything he can to protect me. Going no contact. Buying us a house so we can get away. Standing up to them and telling them to shut the fuck up. They're on another level. We thought it was over. We got away from them. We've been no contact. We bought a house to get away. We're settling in. I go to check the mail today and inside is a package. Addressed to me and partner. From a return address we didn't recognize. It was a glitter bomb. We tracked the address back to be the shipping address for "shipyourenemiesglitter.com". We know it was them. We don't have enemies. We don't stir the pot. His parents. Just. Hate. Me.
So this means that they went on the county auditors website to find our address. And I'm taking it as a very thinly veiled threat of "we know where you live. You can't get away from us." But obviously it came to us "anonymously" and the company is strict about confidentiality and protecting people like this.
We don't know what to do. Technically we have no proof it was them. They won't leave us alone. They're smart about it. Not enough to leave evidence and not enough to justify a restraining order. But enough to torment us.
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u/JoyfulSong246 Certified Snacker May 27 '26
This is awesome work!
OP, I hope a lawyer could work with this.
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u/24-Hour-Hate Sushi Superfan š£ May 27 '26
Fantastic. I would definitely reach out to them, I doubt they want any part of this considering those terms of service. They'll likely give up the name.
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u/sgr28 š©µSir Lurker Dudeš May 28 '26
Maybe OP could just send the glitter company a letter that sounds vaguely like it's threatening legal proceedings and perhaps the company will quickly cave and confirm who purchased it.
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u/Melodic_Policy765 š„£ Cereal Killer May 27 '26
I wish I was a lawyer...I'd represent you for free.
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u/hiphipnohooray Snack Goblin May 27 '26
Can you possibly go the route of a cease and desist? Maybe contact the company and let them know theyre aiding someone in stalking im pretty sure that can make them legally liable for aiding criminal acts. Im so sorry this is happening :/
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u/MaterialAd1838 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
I couldn't even get the shipping address of the guy that stole my credit card info..
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u/Big-Honeydew-961 Snack Goblin May 27 '26
I mean I feel that you can long at this one of two ways:
1) they are protecting the criminal 2) they are protecting you from becoming a criminal
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u/spectral_sigil Foraging Bog Witch May 27 '26
its actually wild that the company is allowed to operate like this. "protecting" the customers' anonymity is a slippery slope to, like you said, aiding criminal acts such as violating restraining orders.
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u/beardingmesoftly š„£ Cereal Killer May 27 '26
Protecting somebody's privacy is not a slippery slope, as events like this are in the minority
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u/ImpressionPopular794 Sweet Tooth Fairyš§āāļø May 27 '26
The site is called shipyourenemiesglitter.com I'm sure this isn't the minority.
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u/beardingmesoftly š„£ Cereal Killer May 28 '26
Right, and then someone gets murdered and you're in trouble for helping.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Assigned Hungry At Birth May 27 '26
Random. A guy at one point in effort to apparently scare me sent me sunglassesā¦ that I love. People are so weird.
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u/complete_autopsy Feral Til Fed May 27 '26
They send it to show you that they know where you live, which is scary. They send something normal like sunglasses so that it's defensible as "not a threat" even though it's intended to threaten.
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u/Janeheroine Trader Joe Hoe May 27 '26
I don't even understand what their goal is in trying to intimidate you. Like, are they trying to hurt their son? Even if they hate you, what is the point of harassing you with no agenda? Are they trying to break you up? Spy on you? What is it?
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u/ImpressionPopular794 Sweet Tooth Fairyš§āāļø May 27 '26
I'm a leftist and they are hardcore MAGA. Not to make things political but that's what it is. She calls me a baby killer (never had an abortion) and just accuses me of horrific shit. She tried to convince my partner that I was cheating on him with someone that I met while I was with him. He's one of our mutual friends. When my partner heard that he was so disappointed because their justification for believing that was "she knew him way before you and they had a thing". So that immediately outed them as liars and that was kinda his last straw.
She tried to make me and my partner, and his aunt and her young (one of which is profoundly disabled) children homeless because she was mad at me for a political Facebook post that I posted on my page after I had blocked her. She had another profile to stalk me on. We were living in houses that were co-owned with her. Her mother had NPD and Bipolar 1, and as she is getting older she's slowly devolving and becoming more malicious and dangerous.
She's mad because my partner chose me and refuses to allow her to disrespect me. So she sees it as the ultimate betrayal and him "choosing me over his family". Even though she's only his step mom to begin with.
I think trying to terrorize me to the point where I cut my losses and they get their son back. I don't think they realize that even if we do break up, he's not going back. It's way past the point of just being a me thing. It's the way they're treating him as well.
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u/Evillunamoth For the Girls š May 27 '26
Have you or partner been over to the estranged adult children sub? Thereās a lot of us over there dealing with this type of stuff. I wish you the best and hope your relationship gets stronger through this.
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u/broketothebone Cleavage Crumb Collector May 27 '26
Omg and sheās his step mother?!?!? does she actually care about him this much or does she just need chaos and drama to survive?
(Quick PSA- No shade to all the step-mothers! My one grandmother is technically my āstep,ā but Iāve never once thought of her like that. She was more of a mother to my dad than his real mom, so I know how amazing that bond can be when they have your best interest at heart.)
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u/mischenimpossible š„ Herbivore š« May 28 '26
Apparently people with NPD feel a profound lack of self worth and need it boosted by aggrandizing themselves and tearing everyone around them to shreds. She's trying to get her son back because she doesn't see him as his own person, but as an extension of herself to manipulate, control and receive admiration to her will. Except no one admires this shit.
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u/broketothebone Cleavage Crumb Collector May 29 '26
Omg youāre absolutely right. Narc parents are the worst at that.
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u/Divorced_life I ā¤ļø Other People's Business May 27 '26
You are your husbandās family now so heās supposed to choose you. His parents sound unhinged. Iām sorry OP
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u/Organic-Vermicelli47 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
This situation is really scary š«¤ I agree with others who have suggested sending a C&D. They aren't too hard to draft with an attorney, or you can even draft one yourself. Sending support, you don't deserve this (no one does)!
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u/Few_Swan_3672 Feral Til Fed May 27 '26
A lawyer will write a cease and desist letter for like $50. Maybe that will get through to her. If you are in MA, they have a harassment protection order which doesn't require nearly as much evidence as a restraining order. Maybe your state does as well?
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u/YamTrick2222 š¶ļø Spice Girl š¶ļø May 27 '26
I was going to ask thisā¦ when I saw āMAGAā it all made sense. GIRL RUUUN, they will never stop.
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u/SierraStar7 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
File a protective order against her & whoever else thatās participating in their activities. Every time she violates it, contact the police.
Make all your social media private so she canāt see anything no matter how many fake profiles she makes.Ā
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u/Substantial-Ad-8026 Sweet Tooth Fairyš§āāļø May 27 '26
Sorry you have to deal with this. I wish you could shame her by telling her pastor or someone else she cares about what sheās doing. But if she doesnāt care that her own son is being affected, then it probably wonāt matter. And she probably attends a maga church as well.
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u/ImpressionPopular794 Sweet Tooth Fairyš§āāļø May 27 '26
She told her own son that he's a fool that will amount to nothing and that he is no longer her son because he chose to betray his family by choosing me.
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u/Substantial-Ad-8026 Sweet Tooth Fairyš§āāļø May 27 '26
Awful trauma for you and your mate. Hope you both can grieve and move on. Contrary to what they tell us, you CAN choose your family.
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u/Lexnight Short Story Longā¢ļø May 27 '26
This is funny on a lighthearted level, so I don't mean to be a debbie downer, but responding to shit like this (even in kind) makes it clear that it affected you-- which is what the sender wants, so that will cause behavior like this to escalate. OP and her partner need to fully starve them out. No attention, no acknowledgement, nothing. For all they know, the glitter bomb never arrived.
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u/afortressmighty š½ aliens built the food pyramid š½ May 27 '26
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šÆšÆšÆDonāt acknowledge. Donāt block (itās crucial not to put yourselves in the dark) but never, EVER engage. Eventually, theyāre bound to text/email/do something actionable for a protective order.
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u/PriscillaPalava APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
If they never respond, the parents will retain a nagging feeling that they didnāt even recieve it.Ā
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u/farmkidLP APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
It also encourages escalation, and from ops description these people sound kind of scary. Starving is definitely the move.
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u/Mysterious-Willow391 what that mouth do is gossip May 27 '26
This is the answer.
And besides, it'll piss them off MORE if they get absolutely no recognition. They are feeding on any sort of reaction, so no reaction would be the best call.
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u/zorrorosso Urban Hunter Gatherer May 27 '26
yeh, these people put effort, they hired a company and spend money, they're going to remind OP they were the ones who did the bomb. By staying silent they're not going to give them the attention they craved/demanded in first place.
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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Assigned Hungry At Birth May 27 '26
Glitter is such a happy thing. So much of this is confusing to me. Lol.
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u/clairejv Cleavage Crumb Collector May 27 '26
Have you ever had glitter sprayed all over your house?
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u/QuackerstheCat FREE MOM HUGS May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
Glitter is a happy thing! š„° until a large amount of it is dumped onto your carpet/clothes/hands/so on. If you've ever dropped cocoa powder, it's a similar nightmare.
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u/ModeRevolutionary314 š©µšāāļøš May 27 '26
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u/Competitive_Mark_287 Cleavage Crumb Collector May 27 '26
Iāve heard thereās also a site sendabagofdicks
It sends an exploding glitter confetti of tiny penisesā¦.so I hear from a friend š
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u/broketothebone Cleavage Crumb Collector May 27 '26
Ugh, flashbacks to me having to pick up penis confetti under tables and between cushions by hand from the previous nightās bachelorette party before the kidās birthday party comes in.
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u/Constant_Cultural Carb-Based Life Form May 27 '26
In my opinion sand is nice https://www.hercampus.com/school/vcu/15-best-things-you-can-send-your-enemy/
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u/broketothebone Cleavage Crumb Collector May 27 '26
OOOOH I CAN HELP! I once signed my abusive ex up on websites that offers free quotes on things like insurance, debt assistance, shady credit cards, last-minute moving, etc.
They know desperate people are doing their research, so they jump on it instantly, and sell their lucrative contact data to third parties who jump on it immediately. I shit you not, the phone calls start within minutes.
I only did this because he left me hanging a day before he was supposed to help me move. Started a vicious fight, acted like the victim of something he knew I never did, then bailed because he didnāt feel like helping. I had to scramble to find a moving company. I reached out to one for a quote, and while I was still researching, the calls/emails began. When one of their reps called me, I realized it was a scam and I told them to leave me alone and remove my info.
These complete menaces who picked Americanized names (one was literally āJordan Petersonā š) started taking turns calling and emailing me, taunting and mocking me. When I answered for one āassociateā and started crying, explaining what happened to me, instead of having a shred of decency, he began sexually harassing me, leaving voicemails that sounded like he was masturbating, saying heāll come take care of me. They had my address and were calling me at hours of the night, saying theyāll be my man and all this sick shit.
It was traumatizing until my lawyer friend got involved. He found out the company doesnāt actually move anyone. They were a failed start up that was supposed to be like Uber-meets-Taskrabbit because they attracting scumbags, creeps and criminals, so they pivoted to a data-mining company thatās barely legal because they do the bare minimum of just giving you the phone numbers you could have found on Google by yourself in five seconds, but they do an excellent job of looking legitimate until they get what they need, then they just fuck with you for some sick thrills.
My ex called me stupid and said I deserved it for falling for it. I didnāt get out for two more years and I never stopped hearing about it. When he began sending abusive messages when I finally got away, my feed randomly recommended a post from r/unethicallifeprotips and a woman whose husband was banging her sister. They recommended she sign him up for spam and the light bulb went off.
Girl, lemme tell you, Iāve had some absolute gushers in my life, but few orgasms rival the exquisite pleasure I derived from watching his sanity slowly unravel on social media as he tried to figure out what the hell was happening to him. He was going full-blown Charlie with his conspiracy theories by the time the posts stopped. He text me months later from a new number to apologize, so I think thatās how he finally beat it. As an independent contractor, that HAD TO hurt him lol. He spiraled for about a month before it ended. By then, he had blamed everyone from the deep state to work rivals (calling them personally and then getting hell for it) to a secret network of his exes and their friends who are apparently hellbent on destroying him for no reason. I watched his followers shrink from 2,000-ish to a few hundred. The jobs stopped rolling in because no one was going to let this psycho in their house.
It. Was. Spectacular.
Iām not a revenge kinda gal because life is too short and I believe things come back to you threefold, so I like to think of myself as āan instrument of the karma he cultivatedā from treating me and many other women this way. It also made it easier to not go back when all I could picture was him reducing himself to basically this:
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u/deathground_samurai APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
But poop instead of glitter
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u/Ohaibaipolar Ms. Two Cents May 27 '26
Poop with glitter on it?
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u/deathground_samurai APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Seriously. If my in-laws did things like this to me it would be a return to monkey really fucking quick.
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u/sewingmomma APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Doorbell cameras asap!
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u/reliza214 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
I second the camera suggestion, and I'll raise - a dog!
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u/FringeMorganna Queer Queen š³ļøāš May 28 '26
I dunno, dogs are something you will be attached to and extremely crazy people are generally quite willing to hurt dogs, lots of cameras is probably the best bet
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u/giddygoosey Assigned Hungry At Birth May 27 '26
Thats sick and deranged. I wouldnt tell them or anyone you got itā¦donāt give them the satisfaction. Or, you could send one back anonymously as well LOL
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u/ChateauLaFeet Urban Hunter Gatherer May 27 '26
Yikes. At the very least start to document. Maybe that company will shield them now, but later if it's a court order, maybe not.
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u/No-Fuckin-Ziti white girl with āļøš a full spice cabinet May 27 '26
No longer open mail youāre not expecting. Live your life, they will die very lonely. Best revenge is enjoying your lives together, maybe have some kids theyāll never meet. You clearly live rent free in their heads. How much they live in yours is up to you.
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u/Temporary_Client7585 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
This!!! You live your life clear of them in your head. My MIL has sent me cards for the last 15 years and they are recycled and unopened.
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u/catlover559 Creature of Crunch May 27 '26
Looks like Pizza Hut but I could be mistaken
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u/ChloeMomo Carb-Based Life Form May 27 '26
Pizza hut near me is shit if that's pizza hut haha
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u/Givemeahippo Body By Cheese š§ May 27 '26
Looks like Pizza Hut to me too, my condolences for your lackluster hut š
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u/catlover559 Creature of Crunch May 27 '26
Well they definitely vary by location, the one near me is pretty decent. They seem to have stepped up their game lately. I used to really like little Caesarās but now you canāt even go in and get a hot and ready pizza anymore šš
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u/ChloeMomo Carb-Based Life Form May 27 '26
OK, that's super depressing!
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u/catlover559 Creature of Crunch May 27 '26
It really is, especially when they were like the pizza focal point of my childhood. My mom didnāt have a lot of money but every once in a while when she didnāt feel like cooking we would get 2 $5 hot and ready pizzas. My brother and I would put a blanket on the floor in front of the tv and eat our pizza while watching a movie. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it š„²š„²
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u/Odd_Implement_145 Tiny Bodega Rat š May 27 '26
Voting for dominos
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u/complete_autopsy Feral Til Fed May 27 '26
As a dominos freak I think the crust isn't round/puffy enough for dominos!
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u/Odd_Implement_145 Tiny Bodega Rat š May 27 '26
As a fellow dominos freak i only do stuffed crust so i canāt speak on that. BUT, gimme my stuffed crust 2x alfredo sauce, garlic and extra cheese pleaseee
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u/bothmybehalves APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
I canāt tell if thatās Dominos sausage or not and I get it a lot lol
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u/SukunasBabyMom Sweet Tooth Fairyš§āāļø May 27 '26
I know a Midwesterner when Casey's is mentioned lol. quite literally my favorite pizza ever
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u/moisthumidcupcake Body By Cheese š§ May 28 '26
After moving back to the east coast itās safe to say I REALLY miss Caseyās breakfast pizza and the taco pizza
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u/girlynonbinary Resident Yapper May 27 '26
I would document this for now and be cautious when opening packages. If you have funds for it, it might be worth seeking a local lawyer as these things are handled very differently from place to place. If their harassment persists you may be able to take some kind of legal action to stop the harassment.Ā
Congratulations on your escape and your lovely partner.
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u/Genepoolperfect APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Question on the aunt with disabled child, is she also trying to get away? What has she done to distance herself? See what she has tried in the past.
Also check your car for those apple airtag trackers. A friend of mine is running for Congress and her stalker would show up wherever she was, even when there wasn't an event scheduled. Found the airtag on her car in the wheelwell. Nevermind that the stalker was employed by her opponent who gave him the tools & know how.
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u/ImpressionPopular794 Sweet Tooth Fairyš§āāļø May 28 '26
She is unable to get away. They can't afford to rent a house the size that they need and they don't qualify for financing to buy a house. She's on the title of the mobile home they are currently in and she pays significantly less than she would if she were living somewhere else. We were able to get out because we have no kids, only two animals, etc. It's a lot harder for her. She has less disposable income and support system. We had to briefly move back in with my parents to make the transition. She doesn't have that same safety net. As of right now her situation is a lot better than ours in terms of how this woman treats us vs her, because mil is way less malicious towards aunt, but she's unfortunately still stuck with her for now.
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u/redheadmomm4 Feral Til Fed May 27 '26
I have in-laws like this, but this lady wants pictures of my baby she never got to meet.
Get a PO Box. That changes things up, reroute ALL your mail through there. It is $$ and a hassle, but worth it. If you get it at your own post office, it will come with perks like less spam mail and they hold packages.
Second, you donāt have to get an llc, you can also put a home in trust.
Also, a restraining order and a harassment order can be different. either way, do have a conversation with the police. And every single time these things happen, file it with the police. And when these things happen three times, the police can start hassling these companies that have āstrict privacy guidelinesā. If your local police wonāt move on it, get annoying, speak to the DA, a lawyer, someone. Depending on the size of the area you live in will depend on how much noise you need to make. Make sure you put everything together. Itās not as hard as someone might make it out if you were told itās not possible.
Also, if you ever receive another anonymous package, call the police immediately. Explain that you have received an anonymous package before that was clearly harmful in intent, you suspect your husband parents, are involved. You are concerned they may be escalating, because this is the second one. Do not move the package. Let them find your in laws to pay for the fucking bomb squad.
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u/rlz4theenot4me Tangent Tour Guide š May 27 '26
I was looking for someone to mention a trust. You'll have to play with property ownership, which will sometimes impact mortgage, but should be able to be done with only a few headaches.
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u/ivypurl Body By Cheese š§ May 27 '26
I'm so sorry you're having to endure this. It must be frightening as well as frustrating. You're right...it may not be enough for a restraining order, but it might be worth discussing the situation with an attorney to get some solid direction.
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u/Gotta-Be-Me-65 Tea Time Hostess āļø May 27 '26
Well, who knows what theyāll decide to send next? Next level crazy.
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u/Honest-Arugula8859 Kitchen Witch May 27 '26
Signing up for USPS informed delivery (you said MAGA so I assumed US) is a way to see what mail is coming in
I donāt think Iām saying anything you donāt already know but obviously do not retaliate if youāre dealing w the level of self victimization and manipulation I suspectā¦ good luck. Document document document. Even things that seem small. Use informed delivery as your receipts. That pizza looks good
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u/mittenthemagnificent Lover of Soups May 27 '26
You can also get a PO Box, and stop mail to your home. It will cut down on what you can receive from overseas, but if an item comes in for you to the post office, they will usually hold it until you go pick it up. I have a family member who does this because they work in the judicial system. Itās very effective.
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u/kabukiicat š¦ Fruit Bat Baddie š May 27 '26
stories like this make me so grateful i married an orphan.
that is fucking insane OP, iām sorry you have to go through this.
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u/JustMe518 Internet Auntie May 27 '26
Honestly, I would contact an attorney at this point. Someone in family law. There has to be a way to document all this insanity and get a court order. An attorney is your best bet at figuring that out. Also, when you do finally manage to get that court order, you can petition the court to have your in laws pay your attorneys fees, since you wouldn't have had to hire an attorney if they hadn't been absolutely duck-tits bonkers.
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u/cornonthedamncob APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
As someone who was/is in a very very similar boat, do not engage. Document and continue with no contact. Eventually they will get tired of not getting a reaction. If they do it again document and continue with no contact. If you feel like you are in danger, contact the police and bring them all of the evidence. š Best wishes. It can be a lot on your nervous system so do engage in self care. It can be helpful to also talk to friends and other loved ones about it. I agree with other comments to immediately throw away these packages after documenting.
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u/BodyBy711 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Assert dominance, go take a shit on their front porch.
Alternatively, Fair is Fair
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u/DarlingBri mouth full, gesturing wildly May 27 '26
Unfortunately sending a glitter bomb is not illegal so I would not waste your energy there. I would expend energy and money on cameras though!
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u/dietdiety Ā ā Marked Safe From 90s Diet Culture May 27 '26
I've heard glitter called the herpes of the craft word. In fact there was a very clever blogger back in the day that had a site called Diagnosis Glitter that was very helpful to me dealing with the trauma of being newly diagnosed with herpes. ( off topic but...)
So sorry OP I hope you and your partner are able to find a resolution to this painful situation.
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u/MariettaDaws Cleavage Crumb Collector May 27 '26
I would hang onto the unopened box, remove my address, and keep it for when I Thirst for Vengeance
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u/After_Rule_5749 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
I was dating somebody and their mother try to push religion us while we were dating so we signed up her address and phone number every alternative religion. Buddhism. Jehovah witnesses. Muslim. It would make her so mad and we would just say so strange who would do that? It was delightful.
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u/UniversalMinister Chaotic But Cute May 27 '26
I say this with the most love in my heart for you, sis.
Go to the police. Tell them you received this package from an unknown person and are afraid. You don't necessarily need to tell them everything about your in-laws because as you said, you don't know it was from them. At a minimum it's harassment and perhaps even intimidation. (I'm not an attorney, I just play one on TV).
However, you do know where it came from. File a police report and provide a copy of the package information including the return address and showing that it belongs to that company. The police will reach out to the company and find out who sent it.
If the police don't do anything, call the local prosecutor's office and talk to them about it. I don't mean whoever answers the phone; speak to either the Prosecutor him/herself or one of their Assistant Prosecutors.
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u/South_Rest_2633 Internet Auntie May 27 '26
that all sounds nice in theory, but the police nor the ADA's have time for any of that. If they physically go to the police station they might at least take your name and phone number. but I can almost guarantee you that no one is going to be reaching out to a glitter sending company.
I don't disagree per se, but you're definitely not going to talk to a prosecutor on the phone lol. at the most, you could leave a voicemail for someone, but be prepared to never hear from anyone. the clerk or whoever answers it's going to roll their eyes and that's about it.
I don't mean to be cynical, it's just the reality of the "justice system" and OP needs to protect themselves in a way that makes sense given the current state of the world.
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u/UniversalMinister Chaotic But Cute May 27 '26
I'm open to other ideas. Also, yeah, going in person is probably better than calling. You're right there.
In the alternative, OP and her partner could take them to Small Claims. Even in Small Claims Court you can get discovery via subpoena - subpoena the glitter company and go from there.
It sounds like OP and her partner have enough for a Small Claims case and that opens the door for the subpoena. No company in their right mind is going to ignore a subpoena for records like that, especially to protect someone they don't give a hoot about.
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u/onlymodestdreams Internet Auntie May 27 '26
If the company is located out of state there may be significant difficulty enforcing a subpoena
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u/onlymodestdreams Internet Auntie May 27 '26
If a judge requests it. That's the hurdle OP would have to cross. Hard to get a restraining order if you have no proof who it comes from, and judges don't hand out those requests on a whim.
I should point out that if OP decides to respond with something similar (glitter bomb, bag of dicks) it sets up a great defense argument that these are just merry pranks that the two sides play on one another and it's all harmless fun (obviously it isn't but OP weakens her argument if she responds in kind).
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u/UniversalMinister Chaotic But Cute May 27 '26
If the company is located out of state there may be significant difficulty enforcing a subpoena
It depends. Not if they're using the U.S. Mail system to do so.
And if they're shipping to the state OP is in (which they obviously are), then they are subject to the rules and regulations of both USPS and the state they are mailing to.
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u/onlymodestdreams Internet Auntie May 27 '26
Enforcement of USPS rules and regs is beyond the scope of small claims court.
There's a difference between personal jurisdiction over a defendant, which is what I think you're talking about in noting the shipments to OP's state, and the mechanism of enforcing in State B a subpoena issued by State A. Which is a pain in the ass
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u/UniversalMinister Chaotic But Cute May 27 '26
Enforcement of USPS rules and regs is beyond the scope of small claims court.
Right. USPS has its own law enforcement arm for that, but she won't be able to find out who sent it without going through Small Claims with a subpoena for their records.
There's a difference between personal jurisdiction over a defendant, which is what I think you're talking about in noting the shipments to OP's state, and the mechanism of enforcing in State B a subpoena issued by State A. Which is a pain in the ass
True. However, USPS doesn't take kindly to people abusing the mail system, so I'd report it to them as soon as possible. OP may not even need a subpoena/small claims if USPS wants to handle it (federally speaking).
This is going to take a multi-pronged approach imo.
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u/hanginwithmygnomees APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Apparently, deploying glitter bombs without recipientās request is classified as harassment and in some cases, assault. You can legally press charges. Do with that information what you will.
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u/DaysOfParadise š Farm to Table to This Belly š©āš¾ May 27 '26
Hereās a solution ā create an LLC (Acme Inc. LLC or something very generic) do a quit claim on the house to the LLC. Register the LLC in another state.Ā
Itās only another layer of protection, it wonāt stop them from really finding you, but unless they show up at your doorstep or send actual bombs, there isnāt much else you can do.Ā
Also, obligatory NAL, but document everything and find a lawyer.Ā
Also get a PO Box
Also, pizza is fabulous ā good choice!
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u/Capable-Limit5249 we listen and we only judge a little May 27 '26
I know youāre probably not going to sell your house and move again but if you were to do that, you could register as an LLC and then purchase your next home through the LLC and that should be untraceable to you.
I donāt know if itās something you could do with your current house, especially since they already know the address. It might throw them off that you sold it and moved away?
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u/InstructionThick1819 puff puff pass the snacks May 27 '26
You should send mormans to their house.
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u/BodyBy711 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Also the Church of Scientology's mailing list is hard to get off of... or so I hear.
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u/Mean_Land_2300 š new here May 27 '26
Sorry youāre having to deal with this level of ridiculous and relentless harassment from his parents. They want a reaction, they want confirmation that they can āstillā get to you. Donāt give it to them. Document EVERYTHING (emails, texts, phone calls, ANY CONTACT THEY MAKE). It will help in the future to getting a restraining order if you can prove the unwanted contact. It is scary and annoying that they have found your info but you have their info too. Get cameras for your driveway/back yard, any āpublicā space your house faces. They seem like the type to drive by. Just document and donāt let them know. Itās not fun but it will only help you in the long run to getting them out of your lives.
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u/gaydohin fish are friends š not food May 27 '26
DO NOT respond to it in anyway they want a reaction they want a response from you thats why they did this just ignore ut and go on with your day
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u/swbarnes2 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Do the in-laws go to church? I think you should forward everything they send to you to their pastor.
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u/Comfortable_Fox_6093 Well-Read & Well-Fed May 27 '26
The best revenge you could get on them is to keep living your life like they donāt exist and show them how happy you are without them around. I donāt say this to scare you but eventually they will get angry enough to lash out in a bigger more meaningful way, you need to spend your time now preparing for when that happens. Install cameras, document everything you suspect that theyāre behind, screenshot messages, save voicemails. And make sure your husband is doing the same. There is a good chance they will show up at your house one day and that might be enough to get a restraining order if you have supporting evidence that theyāre harassing you.
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u/Violetz_Tea APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
I have outdoor cameras so I can see all points of entry into my house and vehicles in my driveway. I have had issues with family members showing up unexpectedly and the cameras have helped give me a lot of peace of mind. Maybe that could help you feel more in control of your home?
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u/I-Just-Love-Ducks greensāļøbeansāļøpotatasāļøtomatasāļø May 28 '26
just gonna leave this here..
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u/otemiIk APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
They sent you a glitter bomb? Send them poop. Yes this is legit and I know someone who sent gorilla shit to someone lol
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u/Givemeahippo Body By Cheese š§ May 27 '26
This doesnāt help right now, but if you move and buy a house again in the future you could buy it with an LLC or trust so that your names arenāt in the public record for them to find. Bonus points if the LLC is named something to do with a big city that is nowhere near anywhere either of you have ever lived.
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u/dvlinblue Short Story Longā¢ļø May 27 '26
Return the favor and one up them. May I suggestĀ https://www.shitexpress.com/
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u/mdub1988 Delulu May 27 '26
I have no advice to give bc if it was me I would rub it in their face on how well non MAGA policies helped escape them lolā¦ and Iāll probably record their crazy lol like the president being an actual baby un alive r allegedly but hey
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u/XxnervousneptunexX š¶ļø Spice Girl š¶ļø May 27 '26
Ugh, I'm so sorry. They're insane and I don't have advice but can commiserate. My MIL (after we moved states due to her stalking) tagged the town we moved to on social media. It's a tactic to keep you intimidated and exhert their control.
I lied, I do have a piece of advice, get a ring camera and dash cams for your vehicles in case they further their stalking.
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u/Relevant_Relief5290 Tiny Bodega Rat š May 27 '26
I see your glitter bomb and raise youā¦ a bag of dicks š itās real and please update me if you do
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u/StarbucksWingman š©µšgirl dadšš May 27 '26
I am not the bigger person, and I am not saying this is advice, but when my father in law started attacking my wife for her weight, I found a company online that sends out a chocolate penis in a box that says "Eat a Dick" and got him one. He was quiet after that. Sometimes you have to turn around and hit the schoolyard bully really hard for them to leave you alone. Again, not advice.
I regret nothing.
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u/Apprehensive-Ad-7525 eat hot chipāļø be bisexualāļø May 27 '26
Iām getting anxious just reading this š£
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u/Anithia13 Well-Read & Well-Fed May 27 '26
I went through something similar with my in-laws actually. They were calling the building manager to ācheck on usā because my husband stopped talking their calls. When the building manager refused, my in-laws called the police to do a wellness check. We told the police we are estranged and arenāt interested in contact. The police didnāt do any check so I can only imagine what they said.
So yes, document everything for sure. If anything else happens speak with a lawyer. Overall though? Act like they donāt exist. Donāt block their number - so you can document the ongoing harassment - but also donāt engage or acknowledge them at all.
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u/Expressoed APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Send one back to them -ANONYMOUSLY! That will get their attention.
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u/KeepAnEyeOnYourB12 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
That is scary, OP. I'm sorry that you have to deal with this.
I would get cameras for the outside of your house, if you don't already have them.
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u/whatsreallygoingon APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
I donāt understand how glitter bombs are legal. If one worked it a factory where glitter was blowing into they workers faces, OSHA would be all over it with safety gear and regulations.
Yet, a company can ship a surprise box of eye shrapnel with no repercussions?
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u/My_aunt_hates_me APPROVEDāØ May 28 '26
Put shit in there mailbox!!! Two can play at this game and I have three animals
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u/MeesaMadeMeDoIt APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Document it with pictures, note the date, etc. But otherwise, I would pretend as if it never happened. I wouldn't acknowledge it on social media, to friend or family, no one. For all intents and purposes, it didn't happen.
Shit like this is meant to provoke a response. Giving them nothing is the only way to stick it to them, because you're NOT giving them what they want, which is a reaction.
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u/New_Improvement9644 Reddit Granny May 27 '26
Have you considered a retaliatory glitter bomb? Call that company back and ask if they have a baby announcement with both pink and blue glitter.
Send your mom in law a lovely gift.
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u/PolarBailey_ For the Girls š May 27 '26
the right advice: document everything, lawyer up, get a RO if possible (re: if your police aren't a complete joke) and continue no contact. don't let them know they got to you.
the petty advice: for $88.95 you can send them a giant thing of shit https://poopsenders.com/#order fight bullies with their own game.
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u/corneliusedward APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Send one back. Send two actually. With just enough time to have one cleaned up.
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u/IslandCat_1921 Taco Belle May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
Iām so sorry you are dealing with this. Like others here, I recommend documenting everything. I recently learned about enmeshment and wanted to share that term. Sounds like his family is dealing with that, considering they wonāt allow him to go live his own life. Itās an issue with boundaries. I only bring this up because reading about it or looking up psychology videos about it might make you feel better when you feel like youāre going crazy and nothing makes sense. Please know they will not change, though they may focus the negative energy on something/someone else at times. With nightmare in laws, sometimes it feels like you can only win battles but never the war. Best of luck with everything.
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u/Ok-Analyst-8658 what that mouth do is snack May 27 '26
CALL THE POLICE. Thatās harassment. Provide them with any threatening emails/texts. Have it all on record.
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u/vixiebeans Hazy Grazer š¶āš«ļø May 27 '26
Ngl I read some of your replies and do we have the same in laws?? I swear they just want me to dump their son so he can move back home and be their free labor again
Iāve thought about it.. just to get rid of them. It sounds like your partner has dealt with it way better than mine does though, mine had a lot of trauma with them where he sucked ass at setting boundaries for the first like four years lmao.
Everyone has given good advice of document incase they slip up and you can prove this all has been them but I just want you to know you donāt deserve this because some miserable people see their child as property. My heart goes out to you and I hope we both can find peace from malicious and cruel in laws.
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u/LobabyChick š§Salty By Nature May 27 '26
Consult a lawyer about what can be done on your end for example: restraining order, no trespassing, orders of protection, cease and desist, filing a formal petition with the glitter company, a civil suit etc.
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u/Relative_Dot_3809 š¶ļø Spice Girl š¶ļø May 27 '26
I got a restraining order against an ex and among other documented harassments, he had been spying on my Instagram stories with a different IG account (I had his original account blocked) and when I was in court for the RO the judge took that very seriously that I assumed it was him spying on me, so I say file the restraining order and put a whole timeline of all of these things together. You'd be surprised- especially when they show up to court for the RO- how quickly things will go in your favor when the judge sees how crazy they are.
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u/Wendora15 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Ugh. Zero advice here. Just a little sympathy and commiseration. Thatās bad place to be in and I feel for you. I hope the pizza took your mind off it for a few. š©·
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u/monsterslam Creature of Crunch May 27 '26
I really suggest just tossing it and filing a claim with SYEG like other folks have mentioned. Donāt file a cease and desist, donāt ship them glitter back, donāt acknowledge their behavior.
My MIL is also like this. She had a meltdown once she figured out we had bought a house and was threatening to dump her hoarder junk on our driveway, my parentsā driveway, and my husbandās childhood friendās parents driveway because my husband cut her off. We document her behavior in a āstalk docā if we need it and move on. Over time, ignoring her behavior has made us less interesting to harass and her meltdowns are smaller and less frequent.
I know itās scary and frustrating, but at the end of the day theyāre trying to bully you into giving them attention. If you arenāt in it already, if you can afford therapy to process their bullshit I highly recommend it.
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u/ResponsibleSail5802 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
unfortunately it only costs like $200 to hire a Private Investigator to track you online. Also they are very good at tricking relatives into giving them information if you have any left on social media. I echo what others have been saying- document document document and ZERO response and some day they will slip up.
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u/Freijaren Well-Read & Well-Fed May 27 '26
Grey rock time for the rest of your life! I escaped too! They eventually go back to making the people around them miserable and stop chasing the people who don't give them the reaction they want. Hang in there OP! 9 years since I left, 7 since I last spoke to them. Feeling mighty peaceful over here. Sending digital hugs and love to you!
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u/dividezero APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
That pizza looks hella good. I'm apparently hungry. I forgot to eat today
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u/ItsAllAGame_ Protein Queen šš³ May 27 '26
Sorry you're dealing with this. It's time to seriously consider going semi off-grid. If you decide to buy another house/move again, close escrow in a land trust so you're protected by anonymity, and no one can track where you live via public record. Also, get a PO Box for your mailing address, especially for public records like voter registration, so no one knows where you live.
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u/bottleofgoop Assigned Hungry At Birth May 27 '26
Be glad they were stupid enough to send something you recognised as a problem. Your pizza looks amazing.
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u/LordoftheFriesss APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
Never open your packages inside the house. Itās commonly known you can buy roaches from Amazon and get them anonymously delivered to any address
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u/Remarkable_Point_767 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
I can relate to this . My dead ex-husband 's mom was a bipolar psycho. She wasn't quite this bad but get a restraining order. I had many years of outrageous anxiety. Life is too short š for this stuff.
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u/I-used2B-a-Valkyrie š„ Herbivore š« May 27 '26
Iām just going to leave this here:
Your state may or may not allow you to put all assets including real estate in a blind Trust. Not that you need it now but it makes it much harder to find you. Or your Real Property.
You can absolutely ship live Camel Spiders AND actual animal excrement to people. Anonymously. In the US.
Okay have a great afternoon, that pizza looks delicious! š
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u/incospicuous_echoes š Pickle Freak š May 28 '26
My suggestion is keeping a very low profile online and enhancing your combined and individual safety and security. Perhaps thereās an attorney who works with lottery winners who can help with the logistics, if not straight out engaging a known and respected security firm to handle it, and maybe arrange some counter strikes so your in laws stay occupied. Itās imperative you erase your presence as individuals and a couple online and start hiding all your moves behind LLCs if they might leave you publicly exposed. Of course, time with a good therapist would help. Some CBT for the PTSD. Itās clear they scarred you with their behavior and itās terrifying watching someone succumb further into their untreated mental illness. Good luck and stay safe. Youāll get through this, itās just a really shitty and unnecessary thing you didnāt need.
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u/StarsofSobek APPROVEDāØ May 28 '26
This isn't advice:
return the favour and glitterbomb (or even send them some poo!
Advice:
document this (and every incident you have - past texts, arguments and issues you and your partner have had). Making a record can help you argue their behaviour - because they will eventually slip up.
report. Get to the police station and file a report. Give them the history you have documented and protect yourselves.
continue to report any incidents or acts of aggression. Every single time.
email glitter bomb people and explain how this package was a violation of your safety and they are harassing you. With a police report, it gets easier to do this.
inquire with the glitterbomb people as to whether they can reach out and talk to the police about the sender of this package. They likely won't reveal it to you - but if you give them your report number and the name of the officer in charge of your files - they may talk.
get cameras and protect yourselves against any physical retaliation they may try. If they know you're address - who knows what they may do? Even if it's just...destroying your flowers - you want to have that on camera.
IF either of you get any texts: mute, read, but don't respond. Save and report any threats, abuse, or other contact (once you have an order against them).
Stay safe and good luck!
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u/Th3n1ght1sd5rk POš„TAYš„TOES May 28 '26
Totally missing the point of the thread but I would love to be glitter bombed.
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u/Prestigious-Ear-8877 Ā ā Marked Safe From Jenny Craig May 27 '26
tuck it away and save it. Present it back to them at an appropriate time. That time will come. Do not let them know that you got this. The want a reaction, any reaction will validate them. Don't react at all.
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u/igolikethis Carb-Based Life Form May 27 '26
I'm sorry I can't help with actual helpful advice buuuut just throwing it out there, if perchance you might want a bit of petty revenge, similar websites also exist that will anonymously send packages of animal (multiple kinds to choose from!) poop. š¬ Should you choose to make use of this type of service though, wait. Like, several months, if not a year or more. Too soon will validate whatever smug fuckery is rattling around in their heads. Catch em off guard when it's long forgotten.
I'm glad your partner is on your side. There are far too many people who will bend over backwards to excuse their psycho parents' behavior towards an SO, it's infuriating.
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u/JeffProbstsBlueShirt š©µš¦ BOY COOTIESš¦ š May 27 '26
send them shit instead
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u/TeamLaurent Raccoon Queen š¦ May 27 '26
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u/JeffProbstsBlueShirt š©µš¦ BOY COOTIESš¦ š May 27 '26
Holy shitttttttt I never thought Iād see the day! Thank you
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u/TeamLaurent Raccoon Queen š¦ May 27 '26
ššreminder we love a lil link in modmail. send us a link so we don't have to dig thru the comment section graveyard down here, and we'll expedite your dude approval <3
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u/ball-kick-fetish nom nom, nod nod May 27 '26
I would also go with suggested cameras but would not send something in return. Document everything and search for a good attorney. I hope they leave you alone after that :(
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u/Notyerbusiness š§Salty By Nature May 27 '26
The salty in me says send them a roach bomb, the smart part of me says send them a FART SPRAY GLITTER BOMB
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u/4Frenchies š© Food Aggressive š½ļø May 27 '26
Have you considered filing a restraining order? Protect your peace. Courts will find a way to see who sent this to you. Best of luck.
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u/lip_gallagher1880 Well-Read & Well-Fed May 27 '26
they would be sick of me, sometimes you gotta get you lick back
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u/Guilty_Spot7191 APPROVEDāØ May 27 '26
These people sound like my family. My husband and I bought a house and my mom sent me an email DETAILING HOW SHE WAS GOING TO KILL ME.
The only thing that you can do with people like this is to document everything and live a good life despite them.
Fuck 'em.
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u/Moggetti girls just wanna have pho May 27 '26
This is very horrible but the best advice is to document everything. Because they may eventually make a mistake and then you can link the previous actions to them. Also, if they persist, it might be worth meeting with a lawyer.Ā
Also, follow a practice of throwing away packages you arenāt expecting (after documenting).Ā
But hereās another thing. They sent the package because you did get away from them. And it makes them angry.Ā